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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine ó The reason you don&#039;t see &quot;progressives&quot; (they are NOT liberal, in any grammatical or political sense of the term, anymore) embracing a &quot;sense of the possible&quot; is that once you say something is possible, the next question becomes &quot;then why don&#039;t you?&quot; with its attendant obligations of action and assumption of responsibility, something &quot;progressives&quot; are loathe to accept.  They are all about telling other people to act and accept responsibility.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine ó The reason you don&#8217;t see &#8220;progressives&#8221; (they are NOT liberal, in any grammatical or political sense of the term, anymore) embracing a &#8220;sense of the possible&#8221; is that once you say something is possible, the next question becomes &#8220;then why don&#8217;t you?&#8221; with its attendant obligations of action and assumption of responsibility, something &#8220;progressives&#8221; are loathe to accept.  They are all about telling other people to act and accept responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of reactionaries.  How pervasive is the anti-Semitism within the John Kerry campaign? Read the following:



October 31, 2004 --  THIS campaign is ending just in time before someone gets hurt. John Kerry&#039;s stepson, Chris Heinz, 31, displayed his mother Teresa&#039;s famous lack of rhetorical restraint at a recent campaign event with a group of Wharton students.



&quot;Philadelphia magazine reports: &quot;Heinz accused Kerry&#039;s opponents - &#039;our enemies&#039; - of making the race dirty. &#039;We didn&#039;t start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead,&#039; he said, before adding, &#039;I&#039;ll do it now.&#039; Asked later about it, Heinz said, &#039;I have no evidence. He never sold me anything.&#039;&quot; Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, &quot;One of the things I&#039;ve noticed is the Israel lobby - the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state.&quot; Buchanan was blasted as an anti-Semite years ago when he cited Israel&#039;s &quot;amen corner&quot; in Congress.&quot;



http://www.nypost.com/gossip/33033.htm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of reactionaries.  How pervasive is the anti-Semitism within the John Kerry campaign? Read the following:</p>
<p>October 31, 2004 &#8212;  THIS campaign is ending just in time before someone gets hurt. John Kerry&#8217;s stepson, Chris Heinz, 31, displayed his mother Teresa&#8217;s famous lack of rhetorical restraint at a recent campaign event with a group of Wharton students.</p>
<p>&#8220;Philadelphia magazine reports: &#8220;Heinz accused Kerry&#8217;s opponents &#8211; &#8216;our enemies&#8217; &#8211; of making the race dirty. &#8216;We didn&#8217;t start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead,&#8217; he said, before adding, &#8216;I&#8217;ll do it now.&#8217; Asked later about it, Heinz said, &#8216;I have no evidence. He never sold me anything.&#8217;&#8221; Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, &#8220;One of the things I&#8217;ve noticed is the Israel lobby &#8211; the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state.&#8221; Buchanan was blasted as an anti-Semite years ago when he cited Israel&#8217;s &#8220;amen corner&#8221; in Congress.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/gossip/33033.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/gossip/33033.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/a_question_of_character?mode=PF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the &lt;i&gt;Boston Globe&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; Jeff Jacoby&lt;/a&gt; on Kerry&#039;s character flaws:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Dear Senator Kerry,&quot; it began. &quot;I urge you to support President Bush&#039;s request that Congress approve the `use of all necessary means&#039; to get Iraqi forces out of Kuwait. To deny the president&#039;s request would encourage further aggression.&quot;

On Jan. 22, Kerry replied.

&quot;Dear Mr. Carter,&quot; he wrote. &quot;Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition to the Bush administration&#039;s additional deployment of US military forces . . . and to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On Jan. 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president immediate authority to go to war.&quot;

Nine days later, he replied again.

&quot;Dear Mr. Carter,&quot; Kerry&#039;s second letter said. &quot;Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush. . . . From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush&#039;s response to the crisis and . . . our military deployment in the Persian Gulf.&quot;

As his glaringly inconsistent responses to Carter -- both form letters, of course -- make clear, Kerry&#039;s habit of coming down firmly on two side of controversial issues didn&#039;t begin with his presidential campaign. It has been a hallmark of his political career.&lt;/i&gt;



RTWT but the &lt;i&gt;Globe&lt;/i&gt; is on record for Kerry....



And then, here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/10/31/losing_it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another Boston Globe story&lt;/a&gt; that starts:

&lt;i&gt;On Tuesday, either George W. Bush or John Kerry will go down to defeat. But in the long run, some observers are already suggesting, to the losing party may go the spoils.&lt;/i&gt;



I don&#039;t recall seeing these &quot;the South shall rise again&quot; stories in &#039;92, &#039;96, or 2000.



I&#039;m thoroughly tired of that Yeats poem at this point, but it sure looks like &quot;the center cannot hold&quot; in the Democrats&#039; lines.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm &#8230; <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/a_question_of_character?mode=PF" rel="nofollow">the <i>Boston Globe&#8217;s</i> Jeff Jacoby</a> on Kerry&#8217;s character flaws:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Dear Senator Kerry,&#8221; it began. &#8220;I urge you to support President Bush&#8217;s request that Congress approve the `use of all necessary means&#8217; to get Iraqi forces out of Kuwait. To deny the president&#8217;s request would encourage further aggression.&#8221;</p>
<p>On Jan. 22, Kerry replied.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Mr. Carter,&#8221; he wrote. &#8220;Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition to the Bush administration&#8217;s additional deployment of US military forces . . . and to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On Jan. 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president immediate authority to go to war.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nine days later, he replied again.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Mr. Carter,&#8221; Kerry&#8217;s second letter said. &#8220;Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush. . . . From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush&#8217;s response to the crisis and . . . our military deployment in the Persian Gulf.&#8221;</p>
<p>As his glaringly inconsistent responses to Carter &#8212; both form letters, of course &#8212; make clear, Kerry&#8217;s habit of coming down firmly on two side of controversial issues didn&#8217;t begin with his presidential campaign. It has been a hallmark of his political career.</i></p>
<p>RTWT but the <i>Globe</i> is on record for Kerry&#8230;.</p>
<p>And then, here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/10/31/losing_it/" rel="nofollow">another Boston Globe story</a> that starts:</p>
<p><i>On Tuesday, either George W. Bush or John Kerry will go down to defeat. But in the long run, some observers are already suggesting, to the losing party may go the spoils.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall seeing these &#8220;the South shall rise again&#8221; stories in &#8217;92, &#8217;96, or 2000.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thoroughly tired of that Yeats poem at this point, but it sure looks like &#8220;the center cannot hold&#8221; in the Democrats&#8217; lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did Coisty go?



I think the most interesting aspect of the whole Bush is raicial idea is that he is accused of being radical for enforcing UN resolutions and for living up to the philosophy of our Declaration of Independence.To say that Iraq was not influencing the West when we were spending billions every year just to patrol the no fly zones and Saddam was perpetrating [along with the UN] the largest financial scam in history is to deny realiity. That son of a bitch was a problem whether the West liked it or not.



I read once that Irazqis used to fight city to city and tribe to tribe and in the early part of the 20th century the Brits would call in the artillery to stop Iraqis from killing Iraqis. Now maybe Coisty thinks this is a future that most Iraqis aspire to, but would he?



So tell me Coisty would you want to live in a country such as that just because your daddy did? Would you want that for your children? Are you better than they are?






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<p>I think the most interesting aspect of the whole Bush is raicial idea is that he is accused of being radical for enforcing UN resolutions and for living up to the philosophy of our Declaration of Independence.To say that Iraq was not influencing the West when we were spending billions every year just to patrol the no fly zones and Saddam was perpetrating [along with the UN] the largest financial scam in history is to deny realiity. That son of a bitch was a problem whether the West liked it or not.</p>
<p>I read once that Irazqis used to fight city to city and tribe to tribe and in the early part of the 20th century the Brits would call in the artillery to stop Iraqis from killing Iraqis. Now maybe Coisty thinks this is a future that most Iraqis aspire to, but would he?</p>
<p>So tell me Coisty would you want to live in a country such as that just because your daddy did? Would you want that for your children? Are you better than they are?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph_W</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UN charter includes the doctrine that no country should attack another without a security council resolution (which we had for Iraq), except in cases of *immediate* self-defense.  This was, in its day, an extremely radical departure from the kind of strategic intervention that successful powers had been using for thousands of years.  For example, when Selucid Syria conquered Ptolemaic Egypt, the Roman Republic forced them to disgorge (and thus preemptively saved themselves from being swallowed by a rebuilt Alexandrian Empire).  France intervened in the Thirty Years War to prevent Germany from uniting (and when you consider what happened to France within a single man&#039;s lifetime after Germany finally did unite...I really can&#039;t say I blame them).



The UN Charter idea has not stood the test of time.  It didn&#039;t stop what Red China did to Tibet, or what the Soviets did to Hungary and Czechoslovakia, or many other horrific conquests and oppressions throughout the last 60 years.  Leftists are therefore in a peculiar reactionary/radical position: they are clinging blindly to an idea from the past, but it&#039;s from such a recent past (and is such a failure even in that time) that it enjoys none of the advantages of the traditions conservatives admire.  Bush&#039;s policy, I believe, is a return to the older, better, time-tested way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN charter includes the doctrine that no country should attack another without a security council resolution (which we had for Iraq), except in cases of *immediate* self-defense.  This was, in its day, an extremely radical departure from the kind of strategic intervention that successful powers had been using for thousands of years.  For example, when Selucid Syria conquered Ptolemaic Egypt, the Roman Republic forced them to disgorge (and thus preemptively saved themselves from being swallowed by a rebuilt Alexandrian Empire).  France intervened in the Thirty Years War to prevent Germany from uniting (and when you consider what happened to France within a single man&#8217;s lifetime after Germany finally did unite&#8230;I really can&#8217;t say I blame them).</p>
<p>The UN Charter idea has not stood the test of time.  It didn&#8217;t stop what Red China did to Tibet, or what the Soviets did to Hungary and Czechoslovakia, or many other horrific conquests and oppressions throughout the last 60 years.  Leftists are therefore in a peculiar reactionary/radical position: they are clinging blindly to an idea from the past, but it&#8217;s from such a recent past (and is such a failure even in that time) that it enjoys none of the advantages of the traditions conservatives admire.  Bush&#8217;s policy, I believe, is a return to the older, better, time-tested way.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting thread, with several different topics.



Liberals and religion clearly no longet get along. Christianity holds man as imperfectible and flawed. Behind most liberal philosophy is the idea that with the right environment, people will grow up to be perfect. In other words, they do not believe in innate traits. Innate traits means they cannot, through environment, create the ideal person. The most extreme case of this philosophy was Pol Pot, who had all with any knowledge killed, trying to removve all &quot;corrupting&quot; influences so that he could create perfect agrarian communists.





A new and bizarre trend is the attempt to remove all references to religion from government. An example is the removal of the cross from the LA seal. The cross symbolized the influence of religious missions in the history of LA - even the name of the city is religious. Why people are so sensitive that they have to take that historic cross and throw it down the memory hole escapes me. But even though our society has done pretty well for over two centuries, all of a sudden these symbols are a danger and have to be removed. This is a sign of radicalization of the liberal movement (some libertarians are just as silly, btw). There are similar assaults on history taking place all over the country.





Others have covered many of the Religion issues - the inflexible standards and the scariness of powerful people having &quot;irrational&quot; beliefs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting thread, with several different topics.</p>
<p>Liberals and religion clearly no longet get along. Christianity holds man as imperfectible and flawed. Behind most liberal philosophy is the idea that with the right environment, people will grow up to be perfect. In other words, they do not believe in innate traits. Innate traits means they cannot, through environment, create the ideal person. The most extreme case of this philosophy was Pol Pot, who had all with any knowledge killed, trying to removve all &#8220;corrupting&#8221; influences so that he could create perfect agrarian communists.</p>
<p>A new and bizarre trend is the attempt to remove all references to religion from government. An example is the removal of the cross from the LA seal. The cross symbolized the influence of religious missions in the history of LA &#8211; even the name of the city is religious. Why people are so sensitive that they have to take that historic cross and throw it down the memory hole escapes me. But even though our society has done pretty well for over two centuries, all of a sudden these symbols are a danger and have to be removed. This is a sign of radicalization of the liberal movement (some libertarians are just as silly, btw). There are similar assaults on history taking place all over the country.</p>
<p>Others have covered many of the Religion issues &#8211; the inflexible standards and the scariness of powerful people having &#8220;irrational&#8221; beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Luther King was a force for good, in spite of himself. His delivery of &quot;I have a dream&quot; was an important event, the message beautiful. It&#039;s unfortunate that his successors in the civil rights movement turned it on it&#039;s head. It was a message of equality, not racial quotas and a racial spoils system.



MLK was a communist, an adulterer, and generally not the greatest guy. But his effect was powerful and important.



I did oppose the MLK holiday, not wanting to be so quick to displace an important holiday of one of our founders. Arizona felt the same way. We were coerced into the holiday by the NFL, which would not allow a superbowl here unless we had the holiday. I found that outrageous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Luther King was a force for good, in spite of himself. His delivery of &#8220;I have a dream&#8221; was an important event, the message beautiful. It&#8217;s unfortunate that his successors in the civil rights movement turned it on it&#8217;s head. It was a message of equality, not racial quotas and a racial spoils system.</p>
<p>MLK was a communist, an adulterer, and generally not the greatest guy. But his effect was powerful and important.</p>
<p>I did oppose the MLK holiday, not wanting to be so quick to displace an important holiday of one of our founders. Arizona felt the same way. We were coerced into the holiday by the NFL, which would not allow a superbowl here unless we had the holiday. I found that outrageous.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Bush is radical is shown by the invasion of Iraq. It was a radical and risky step - radical because it was a pre-emptive war against a power that  was not related to 9-11.



Bush understood what others here have said - that perhaps the best hope for eliminating Islamic terrorism is reforming some Islamic societies. It takes vision and courage to act on that. Vision to create and understand this strategy, and courage because of the risks inherent in any war, and the long term political risks.



That the left dislikes this action shows their lack of vision. Liberals used to be in favor of liberating people from oppression, but now that is a fraud. When the real opportunity appeared and Bush took it, the left did nothing but condemn him. There is no way to interpret their position other than preferring to leave Iraqis in the bloody hands of Saddam and his spawn.



This is also radical to conservatives. Liberating countries is not a core conservative value. We liberated the people of the USSR because that country was a clear danger to us.



In Iraq, we can see both idealism and pragmatism. The reasons for the war were many - it wasn&#039;t fought just to liberate Iraqis. But the idea of spreading democracy through the middle east is idealistic. We don&#039;t know if it will work. But one thing we know: Iraq isn&#039;t a WMD threat any more. And if it ends up with a somewhat authoritarian government, that will still achieve our goals.



Coisty questions the Iraqi desire for freedom. It is there. You can have tribes and still want freedom (we have lots of tribes here in Arizona). People tend to want safety first, then freedom (Mazlo hierarchy). But the will forego safety to achieve freedoom under some circumstances. I think that the average Iraqi would tell you they want two things: an improvement in the security situation, and freedom.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Bush is radical is shown by the invasion of Iraq. It was a radical and risky step &#8211; radical because it was a pre-emptive war against a power that  was not related to 9-11.</p>
<p>Bush understood what others here have said &#8211; that perhaps the best hope for eliminating Islamic terrorism is reforming some Islamic societies. It takes vision and courage to act on that. Vision to create and understand this strategy, and courage because of the risks inherent in any war, and the long term political risks.</p>
<p>That the left dislikes this action shows their lack of vision. Liberals used to be in favor of liberating people from oppression, but now that is a fraud. When the real opportunity appeared and Bush took it, the left did nothing but condemn him. There is no way to interpret their position other than preferring to leave Iraqis in the bloody hands of Saddam and his spawn.</p>
<p>This is also radical to conservatives. Liberating countries is not a core conservative value. We liberated the people of the USSR because that country was a clear danger to us.</p>
<p>In Iraq, we can see both idealism and pragmatism. The reasons for the war were many &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t fought just to liberate Iraqis. But the idea of spreading democracy through the middle east is idealistic. We don&#8217;t know if it will work. But one thing we know: Iraq isn&#8217;t a WMD threat any more. And if it ends up with a somewhat authoritarian government, that will still achieve our goals.</p>
<p>Coisty questions the Iraqi desire for freedom. It is there. You can have tribes and still want freedom (we have lots of tribes here in Arizona). People tend to want safety first, then freedom (Mazlo hierarchy). But the will forego safety to achieve freedoom under some circumstances. I think that the average Iraqi would tell you they want two things: an improvement in the security situation, and freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: mudmarine</title>
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		<description>Cosity



&quot;But

Bush seems to agree with Trotsky in that the power of the state should be utilized to bring about revolutionary change around the world.&quot;



That is a very charged word, &#039;revolutionary&#039;



Yes, it is/was used in context with the &#039;Revolutionary War of 1776&#039;.



So, are you using it in the context of Michael Moore and his sympathy for the terrorists shits in Iraq? Or, are you using it in the, shall we say, leftist understanding of the term? I do admit it has been used and or abused by many. I also submit that democracy is the ultimate revolution. Power to the &#039;people&#039; so to speak.



And, what other power are you going to come to the party with, anarchy? As well as, do you see no difference between the ideals of the United States and the ideals of despotic regimes such as the former USSR and or present day Iran, Syria, North Korea? Is it just the idea of the primacy of the state over the individual that you are talking about? Just what is it that you would do different if another state/entity were doing/threatening harm to you or yours? What is this &#039;state&#039; of perfection that you appear to be alluding to?



Sorry for so many questions, but I am a plain old &#039;draw a line in the sand&#039; kind of guy. Not much on nuance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosity</p>
<p>&#8220;But</p>
<p>Bush seems to agree with Trotsky in that the power of the state should be utilized to bring about revolutionary change around the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a very charged word, &#8216;revolutionary&#8217;</p>
<p>Yes, it is/was used in context with the &#8216;Revolutionary War of 1776&#8242;.</p>
<p>So, are you using it in the context of Michael Moore and his sympathy for the terrorists shits in Iraq? Or, are you using it in the, shall we say, leftist understanding of the term? I do admit it has been used and or abused by many. I also submit that democracy is the ultimate revolution. Power to the &#8216;people&#8217; so to speak.</p>
<p>And, what other power are you going to come to the party with, anarchy? As well as, do you see no difference between the ideals of the United States and the ideals of despotic regimes such as the former USSR and or present day Iran, Syria, North Korea? Is it just the idea of the primacy of the state over the individual that you are talking about? Just what is it that you would do different if another state/entity were doing/threatening harm to you or yours? What is this &#8216;state&#8217; of perfection that you appear to be alluding to?</p>
<p>Sorry for so many questions, but I am a plain old &#8216;draw a line in the sand&#8217; kind of guy. Not much on nuance.</p>
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		<description>Roger,



Why are your commenters better than all the talking heads on television? I am befuddled by why they receive so much attention. I say that as I listen to Ms. Kearns Goodwin talk about American politics with Mr. Russert.



I guess it&#039;s too late for me but the rest of you can get out of here before it&#039;s too late.
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<p>Why are your commenters better than all the talking heads on television? I am befuddled by why they receive so much attention. I say that as I listen to Ms. Kearns Goodwin talk about American politics with Mr. Russert.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s too late for me but the rest of you can get out of here before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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