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		<title>By: Bill Peschel</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/27/knockout-in-the-third-round/#comment-24194</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Peschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason why nobody will cut a check to Lileks for his Bleats is that they take up so much room.



As an experiment (I work for a newspaper), I cut and pasted one of his more effective Bleats onto the editorial page. It took up three full columns!



Where to cut? What can you cut? I&#039;d rather have him writing in full on his Web site than see his stuff cut to 16 inches in the paper.



BTW, Lileks is not the Twain of our time, he is the Samuel Pepys. When historians turn to this era, they&#039;re going to look at Lilek&#039;s Bleats to understand how all this came down, day by day. This will be his claim to posterity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason why nobody will cut a check to Lileks for his Bleats is that they take up so much room.</p>
<p>As an experiment (I work for a newspaper), I cut and pasted one of his more effective Bleats onto the editorial page. It took up three full columns!</p>
<p>Where to cut? What can you cut? I&#8217;d rather have him writing in full on his Web site than see his stuff cut to 16 inches in the paper.</p>
<p>BTW, Lileks is not the Twain of our time, he is the Samuel Pepys. When historians turn to this era, they&#8217;re going to look at Lilek&#8217;s Bleats to understand how all this came down, day by day. This will be his claim to posterity.</p>
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		<title>By: JLK</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/27/knockout-in-the-third-round/#comment-24193</link>
		<dc:creator>JLK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Lileks site crashed? I&#039;ve tried to read this article for more than 2 days, but the site is not available. Is one link all it took?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Lileks site crashed? I&#8217;ve tried to read this article for more than 2 days, but the site is not available. Is one link all it took?</p>
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		<title>By: thibaud</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/27/knockout-in-the-third-round/#comment-24192</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lileks&#039; response to this AS asininity is priceless:



AS: &lt;i&gt;But in wartime, a president bears the greater responsibility for keeping the country united. And this president has fundamentally failed in this respect.&lt;/i&gt;



Lileks: Oh, surely. But maybe - just maybe - &lt;b&gt;many people did not want the country to be united if it meant being united behind Bush&lt;/b&gt;.



&lt;i&gt;BINGO. If anyone is to blame for &quot;disunity&quot; in America today, it&#039;s Al Gore. I ceased to be a fervent Democrat when Gore suddenly lost all honor and composure in the days after the 2000 election and began running around the country telling as many haters as he could find that &quot;your vote did not count.&quot; Shameless, inexcusable opportunism. No candidate worth voting for would ever think to undermine our democracy with such a cheap and false charge as that. Gore, not Bush, created the hatred and hostility that cripple this country today.&lt;/i&gt;



Lileks: [Bush] is a much more potent and immediate threat, after all. Who?s heard from Osama lately? Meanwhile Bush is out there every day handling snakes and speaking in tongues and supergluing parapalegics to wheelchairs, because his weird-beard God loves suffering and commands him ? via text-messaging, for all we know ? to kill them oily rag-heads. I mean, today I was behind a car whose bumpersticker had a picture of Bush with the slogan &quot;American Terrorist.&quot; I know that driver was behind Bush before Bush failed - in a fundamental way - to convince the driver he was not equivalent to Abu Nidal. Probably because he misprounced &quot;Nuclear.&quot; Farking moron.



Keeping the country united? Good luck. &lt;b&gt;Imagine FDR running a war with a press composed of cynical snickerers who derided the president as a rich old cripple&lt;/b&gt; who thought the best way to defeat Tojo was a war in North Africa and preached defeat every day through the hard slog of the Pacific theater...



&lt;i&gt;Lileks may have had him in mind, but that in fact was the position taken by &lt;b&gt;FDR&#039;s ambassador to Britain.&lt;/b&gt; Who was, perhaps not coincidentally, he father of the most strident of Washington&#039;s current paranoiac conspiracy-mongers, Teddy &quot;Cooked Up in Texas&quot; Kennedy.&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lileks&#8217; response to this AS asininity is priceless:</p>
<p>AS: <i>But in wartime, a president bears the greater responsibility for keeping the country united. And this president has fundamentally failed in this respect.</i></p>
<p>Lileks: Oh, surely. But maybe &#8211; just maybe &#8211; <b>many people did not want the country to be united if it meant being united behind Bush</b>.</p>
<p><i>BINGO. If anyone is to blame for &#8220;disunity&#8221; in America today, it&#8217;s Al Gore. I ceased to be a fervent Democrat when Gore suddenly lost all honor and composure in the days after the 2000 election and began running around the country telling as many haters as he could find that &#8220;your vote did not count.&#8221; Shameless, inexcusable opportunism. No candidate worth voting for would ever think to undermine our democracy with such a cheap and false charge as that. Gore, not Bush, created the hatred and hostility that cripple this country today.</i></p>
<p>Lileks: [Bush] is a much more potent and immediate threat, after all. Who?s heard from Osama lately? Meanwhile Bush is out there every day handling snakes and speaking in tongues and supergluing parapalegics to wheelchairs, because his weird-beard God loves suffering and commands him ? via text-messaging, for all we know ? to kill them oily rag-heads. I mean, today I was behind a car whose bumpersticker had a picture of Bush with the slogan &#8220;American Terrorist.&#8221; I know that driver was behind Bush before Bush failed &#8211; in a fundamental way &#8211; to convince the driver he was not equivalent to Abu Nidal. Probably because he misprounced &#8220;Nuclear.&#8221; Farking moron.</p>
<p>Keeping the country united? Good luck. <b>Imagine FDR running a war with a press composed of cynical snickerers who derided the president as a rich old cripple</b> who thought the best way to defeat Tojo was a war in North Africa and preached defeat every day through the hard slog of the Pacific theater&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Lileks may have had him in mind, but that in fact was the position taken by <b>FDR&#8217;s ambassador to Britain.</b> Who was, perhaps not coincidentally, he father of the most strident of Washington&#8217;s current paranoiac conspiracy-mongers, Teddy &#8220;Cooked Up in Texas&#8221; Kennedy.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its VERY interesting to see black voters responding to the candidates.  For all the stumping Kerry has done in various churches around the country, he has apparently either forgotten or ignored how church-centric much of the African American community is, especially in lower income areas.  Because Bush is strong on issue that appeal to the Christian community, the African American Christian Church is put in a difficult situation - wallet or religion as a voting impetus.



Many pundits have been predicting an upswing in black voters voting for Bush.  Not to mention, you have democrats challegnging the ballots in Florida, claiming, in essence, that minorities are more incompetent when filling out voter registration card  and so are being disenfranchised.  If I&#039;m african-american, I&#039;d be very tired of being manipulated by the democratic party because quite frankly, the DNC is just not subtle about it.



Prediction- 16-20% of african american voters will vote for Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its VERY interesting to see black voters responding to the candidates.  For all the stumping Kerry has done in various churches around the country, he has apparently either forgotten or ignored how church-centric much of the African American community is, especially in lower income areas.  Because Bush is strong on issue that appeal to the Christian community, the African American Christian Church is put in a difficult situation &#8211; wallet or religion as a voting impetus.</p>
<p>Many pundits have been predicting an upswing in black voters voting for Bush.  Not to mention, you have democrats challegnging the ballots in Florida, claiming, in essence, that minorities are more incompetent when filling out voter registration card  and so are being disenfranchised.  If I&#8217;m african-american, I&#8217;d be very tired of being manipulated by the democratic party because quite frankly, the DNC is just not subtle about it.</p>
<p>Prediction- 16-20% of african american voters will vote for Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: vegetius</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegetius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Poling:



&quot;What I don&#039;t understand is why Sullivan seems to know nothing of the Carter Administration. Just because someone finds himself behind the wheel of a huge honking behemoth of a national vehicle doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;ll drive responsibly.



He may well run over the rose bushes, burn out the clutch, and blame it on &quot;a great national malaise&quot;.





You stole my thunder ...I was going say it&#039;s like

giving an alcoholic the keys to a car expecting this to sober him up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Poling:</p>
<p>&#8220;What I don&#8217;t understand is why Sullivan seems to know nothing of the Carter Administration. Just because someone finds himself behind the wheel of a huge honking behemoth of a national vehicle doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;ll drive responsibly.</p>
<p>He may well run over the rose bushes, burn out the clutch, and blame it on &#8220;a great national malaise&#8221;.</p>
<p>You stole my thunder &#8230;I was going say it&#8217;s like</p>
<p>giving an alcoholic the keys to a car expecting this to sober him up.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Amedeus Metesky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Amedeus Metesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a Bush rally today at the Pontiac Silverdome in Oakland County, Michigan. It was pretty clear from the lines that got applause that the &quot;social conservatives&quot; were out in force. Bush&#039;s comments on abortion and marriage were well received. I noticed, btw, that the African Americans up on the stage bleachers also responded strongly to those remarks as well.



On the way home, on the radio there were ads from Dr. Dobson/Focus On Family about the marriage ballot proposal and from Michigan Right To Life supporting Bush. I&#039;m a bit undecided on the issue of gay marriage and I happen to think that abortion should be legal (though limited - my position has to do with Jewish law, which permits it in certain cases). However, I think that if it helps to elect Bush so he can prosecute the WOT, go ahead and exploit these issues. Remember, in 2000, 4 million Evangelical voters stayed home and Karl Rove doesn&#039;t ever want to see that happen again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a Bush rally today at the Pontiac Silverdome in Oakland County, Michigan. It was pretty clear from the lines that got applause that the &#8220;social conservatives&#8221; were out in force. Bush&#8217;s comments on abortion and marriage were well received. I noticed, btw, that the African Americans up on the stage bleachers also responded strongly to those remarks as well.</p>
<p>On the way home, on the radio there were ads from Dr. Dobson/Focus On Family about the marriage ballot proposal and from Michigan Right To Life supporting Bush. I&#8217;m a bit undecided on the issue of gay marriage and I happen to think that abortion should be legal (though limited &#8211; my position has to do with Jewish law, which permits it in certain cases). However, I think that if it helps to elect Bush so he can prosecute the WOT, go ahead and exploit these issues. Remember, in 2000, 4 million Evangelical voters stayed home and Karl Rove doesn&#8217;t ever want to see that happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: kynna</title>
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		<dc:creator>kynna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 03:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sullivan has become such a joke that I can&#039;t believe anyone even cares what he says.  These are serious times and I don&#039;t need to be reading people who are fools.



I love Lileks and I&#039;d love to be hearing him on the radio or seeing him on Fox.  He does an excellent take-down of Sullivan&#039;s &quot;logic.&quot;



That being said, I&#039;m tired of thinking about Andrew Sullivan.  He&#039;s been linked to on a lot of sites lately because he&#039;s so shockingly disappointing.



Now that we&#039;re all no longer shocked, I propose that we simply forget about him.  He&#039;s not a serious concern.



May he and Kerry ride off together into the sunset of the deluded on November 4th.  Please God!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sullivan has become such a joke that I can&#8217;t believe anyone even cares what he says.  These are serious times and I don&#8217;t need to be reading people who are fools.</p>
<p>I love Lileks and I&#8217;d love to be hearing him on the radio or seeing him on Fox.  He does an excellent take-down of Sullivan&#8217;s &#8220;logic.&#8221;</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m tired of thinking about Andrew Sullivan.  He&#8217;s been linked to on a lot of sites lately because he&#8217;s so shockingly disappointing.</p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;re all no longer shocked, I propose that we simply forget about him.  He&#8217;s not a serious concern.</p>
<p>May he and Kerry ride off together into the sunset of the deluded on November 4th.  Please God!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogaddict,



In other words, AS mastered nothing but the art of gab.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogaddict,</p>
<p>In other words, AS mastered nothing but the art of gab.</p>
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		<title>By: blogaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>blogaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Poling--I agree with you that Sullivan seems ignorant of Carter.  But it has often struck me when I read him of late that he is ignorant of history and psychology in the general sense, as well.  And yet, according to his bio, he majored in modern history and modern languages at Oxford, (although after that his interests veered to poli sci and government--doctorate in poli sci from Harvard).



I&#039;ve noticed over and over that journalists such as Sullivan often display a truly abysmal ignorance on matters of military tactics and military history, in particular.  I wonder what they teach in &quot;modern history&quot; at Oxford, and whether it would explain his strange ignorance of said history?  He is a real puzzlement.  Like many journalists, he displays a facility with words that masks the fact that he isn&#039;t saying much that makes a whole lot of sense.  Although the &quot;reasoning&quot; behind his support of Kerry made his piece eminently and easily fiskable, Lileks fisks it with such flair that I&#039;m in awe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Poling&#8211;I agree with you that Sullivan seems ignorant of Carter.  But it has often struck me when I read him of late that he is ignorant of history and psychology in the general sense, as well.  And yet, according to his bio, he majored in modern history and modern languages at Oxford, (although after that his interests veered to poli sci and government&#8211;doctorate in poli sci from Harvard).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed over and over that journalists such as Sullivan often display a truly abysmal ignorance on matters of military tactics and military history, in particular.  I wonder what they teach in &#8220;modern history&#8221; at Oxford, and whether it would explain his strange ignorance of said history?  He is a real puzzlement.  Like many journalists, he displays a facility with words that masks the fact that he isn&#8217;t saying much that makes a whole lot of sense.  Although the &#8220;reasoning&#8221; behind his support of Kerry made his piece eminently and easily fiskable, Lileks fisks it with such flair that I&#8217;m in awe.</p>
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		<title>By: mrp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Lileks writes commentary for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newhousenews.com/lileks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newhouse News Service&lt;/a&gt;.  He is also a columnist for the Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lileks writes commentary for the <a href="http://www.newhousenews.com/lileks.html" rel="nofollow">Newhouse News Service</a>.  He is also a columnist for the Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune.</p>
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