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		<title>By: Blue State Conservative</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/24/dept-of-a-fathers-pride-2/#comment-23273</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue State Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a somewhat conservative Catholic university, and thanks to AP credits, only had to take one English course.  My professor was an old guy with no haor but big puffy sideburns who as a young man used to hang around with Dylan Thomas in the Village.  Class but him and us reading poems from Norton&#039;s anthology.  No decontructing Shakespeare for him.



The first time I saw something about deconstructivism, I thought it was a satire or a joke.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a somewhat conservative Catholic university, and thanks to AP credits, only had to take one English course.  My professor was an old guy with no haor but big puffy sideburns who as a young man used to hang around with Dylan Thomas in the Village.  Class but him and us reading poems from Norton&#8217;s anthology.  No decontructing Shakespeare for him.</p>
<p>The first time I saw something about deconstructivism, I thought it was a satire or a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/24/dept-of-a-fathers-pride-2/#comment-23272</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Charlie(Colorado) ó That&#039;s what you get for marrying a human being. Try marrying a woman next time.&lt;/i&gt;



Actually, the more women I meet, the better I like cats.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Charlie(Colorado) ó That&#8217;s what you get for marrying a human being. Try marrying a woman next time.</i></p>
<p>Actually, the more women I meet, the better I like cats.</p>
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		<title>By: TR Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TR Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, Roger.  I know you are proud.  I read his piece in the dead tree version of the LAT this morning but wouldn&#039;t have made the connection.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, Roger.  I know you are proud.  I read his piece in the dead tree version of the LAT this morning but wouldn&#8217;t have made the connection.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may not be the place for this, but I think Derrida has had an indiretcly positve effect on the right.   The idea that communication is at best problematic when filtered through the biases of reporters has been profitable for the right, and as  obvious as it is, I do not think it would have been as easily accepted without the work of Derrida and his disciples.   We have been able to flip the script on the Legacy Media types and make a huge dent in their credibility thanks to this idea.   POMO has come back and bitten the left on the right cheek so to speak.  Thanks, Jacques!  Brent Bozell thanks you, too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may not be the place for this, but I think Derrida has had an indiretcly positve effect on the right.   The idea that communication is at best problematic when filtered through the biases of reporters has been profitable for the right, and as  obvious as it is, I do not think it would have been as easily accepted without the work of Derrida and his disciples.   We have been able to flip the script on the Legacy Media types and make a huge dent in their credibility thanks to this idea.   POMO has come back and bitten the left on the right cheek so to speak.  Thanks, Jacques!  Brent Bozell thanks you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yank,



Oh, they&#039;ll keep trying. A Muslim was he? Well some say the dark lady was, shall we say, moorish. But the old gent&#039;s bones remain buried in that tidy Anglican church in Stratford. A closet papist, perhaps, but a muslim? Well, give it another 100 years and they&#039;ll all be muslim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yank,</p>
<p>Oh, they&#8217;ll keep trying. A Muslim was he? Well some say the dark lady was, shall we say, moorish. But the old gent&#8217;s bones remain buried in that tidy Anglican church in Stratford. A closet papist, perhaps, but a muslim? Well, give it another 100 years and they&#8217;ll all be muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie(Colorado) ó That&#039;s what you get for marrying a human being.  Try marrying a woman next time.



&lt;i&gt;Ducks&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie(Colorado) ó That&#8217;s what you get for marrying a human being.  Try marrying a woman next time.</p>
<p><i>Ducks</i></p>
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		<title>By: Fausta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Raphael (and dad Roger!).



See also the following on relativism&#039;s empty premise: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcentralstation.com/042304C.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If relativists attempt to defend their position by claiming that it is not culturally conditioned but actually true, then they cannot consistently maintain their central claim that the truth does not exist. It must exist if they have found it.&lt;/a&gt;



The Western canon has survived because it resonates.  As for me, having slogged through a couple of Derrida texts, deconstructionism is just mental smoke and mirrors (to use a polite term), no resonance there.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Raphael (and dad Roger!).</p>
<p>See also the following on relativism&#8217;s empty premise: <a href="http://www.techcentralstation.com/042304C.html" rel="nofollow">If relativists attempt to defend their position by claiming that it is not culturally conditioned but actually true, then they cannot consistently maintain their central claim that the truth does not exist. It must exist if they have found it.</a></p>
<p>The Western canon has survived because it resonates.  As for me, having slogged through a couple of Derrida texts, deconstructionism is just mental smoke and mirrors (to use a polite term), no resonance there.</p>
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		<title>By: Connecticut Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connecticut Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Dad--



It looks as if the pomos may have gotten to the Bard after all, at least if a recent piece in the &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt; (after the Ohio letter-writing campaign and the op-ed about the desirability of W&#039;s assassination, there ought to be a three-strikes rule for newspapers) is to be believed:



&quot;Sufi or not Sufi? That is the question



Islam week at the Globe Theatre will link Shakespeare with a mystic Muslim sect.&quot;



http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1334860,00.html



One of the posters at LGF interpreted the &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt; op-ed as typical pomo stuff:



&lt;i&gt;I can&#039;t help but believe that there people out there who are deliberately pulling a shell game with us, trying to get us to agree that Sufism is kind of nice, and Sufism is Islam, and Islam is what the Wahhabists believe in, therefore let&#039;s be nice to the enemy.



And here&#039;s the deal -- it doesn&#039;t HAVE to make sense. You know and I know it doesn&#039;t make sense. The syllogism is faulty. But post-modernism doesn&#039;t work by syllogisms. You can holler all you want about how it doesn&#039;t make sense, but post-modernism just sits there glaring at you and accusing of foisting your own patriarchal, destructive reality on others.&lt;/i&gt;



http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13276_Guardian_Lunacy_in_Full_Flower




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Dad&#8211;</p>
<p>It looks as if the pomos may have gotten to the Bard after all, at least if a recent piece in the <i>Guardian</i> (after the Ohio letter-writing campaign and the op-ed about the desirability of W&#8217;s assassination, there ought to be a three-strikes rule for newspapers) is to be believed:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sufi or not Sufi? That is the question</p>
<p>Islam week at the Globe Theatre will link Shakespeare with a mystic Muslim sect.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1334860,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,1334860,00.html</a></p>
<p>One of the posters at LGF interpreted the <i>Guardian</i> op-ed as typical pomo stuff:</p>
<p><i>I can&#8217;t help but believe that there people out there who are deliberately pulling a shell game with us, trying to get us to agree that Sufism is kind of nice, and Sufism is Islam, and Islam is what the Wahhabists believe in, therefore let&#8217;s be nice to the enemy.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the deal &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t HAVE to make sense. You know and I know it doesn&#8217;t make sense. The syllogism is faulty. But post-modernism doesn&#8217;t work by syllogisms. You can holler all you want about how it doesn&#8217;t make sense, but post-modernism just sits there glaring at you and accusing of foisting your own patriarchal, destructive reality on others.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13276_Guardian_Lunacy_in_Full_Flower" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13276_Guardian_Lunacy_in_Full_Flower</a></p>
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		<title>By: Old Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,



You&#039;re right, of course, about Deconstruction. Derrida was learned, facile, sometimes a clever writer, more often obtuse and silly.



His project, put simply, was the deconstruction of the monuments of western philosophy and culture parading as a critique. His tools were really very simple, a fashion of epistemological nihilism, but those stubborn &quot;traces&quot; refused to go away, and the canon survived, much maligned. Plato and Shakespeare won handily. In fact, the pomos never laid a glove on them.



The academy, though, was ruined in the process. Imagine giving an academic a wrecking ball that would allow him to earn tenure without knowing anything. That&#039;s what happened. Empty drivel became scholarship because it could.



The logical political result of postmodernism is, as you point out, a naked power grab. Well now the nuts are runninig the asylum at universities across the land. It will take generations to repair.



Parents of college age children, be very careful how and where you spend your hard earned money. If your kids aren&#039;t tackling the great books as part of the curriculum, find out why. Don&#039;t allow them to replace Shakespeare with some multi culti lesbian third world drivel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, of course, about Deconstruction. Derrida was learned, facile, sometimes a clever writer, more often obtuse and silly.</p>
<p>His project, put simply, was the deconstruction of the monuments of western philosophy and culture parading as a critique. His tools were really very simple, a fashion of epistemological nihilism, but those stubborn &#8220;traces&#8221; refused to go away, and the canon survived, much maligned. Plato and Shakespeare won handily. In fact, the pomos never laid a glove on them.</p>
<p>The academy, though, was ruined in the process. Imagine giving an academic a wrecking ball that would allow him to earn tenure without knowing anything. That&#8217;s what happened. Empty drivel became scholarship because it could.</p>
<p>The logical political result of postmodernism is, as you point out, a naked power grab. Well now the nuts are runninig the asylum at universities across the land. It will take generations to repair.</p>
<p>Parents of college age children, be very careful how and where you spend your hard earned money. If your kids aren&#8217;t tackling the great books as part of the curriculum, find out why. Don&#8217;t allow them to replace Shakespeare with some multi culti lesbian third world drivel.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Derrida] essentially argued that human beings could not adequately communicate with each other.&lt;/i&gt;



He must have known my ex-wife.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[Derrida] essentially argued that human beings could not adequately communicate with each other.</i></p>
<p>He must have known my ex-wife.</p>
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