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		<title>By: Van Gale</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/09/down-under-augury/#comment-20471</link>
		<dc:creator>Van Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, and I wish I&#039;d seen this post earlier.  I&#039;ve been on a business trip in Germany for the last 2 weeks and accidently watch CNN Europe every now and then.  Before the Australian election they repeated quite often their news/opinion it was a referendum on the Iraq war. Listening to this I figured they were pretty sure Howard was going to lose.  So I was surprised when he won, and now they&#039;re saying it wasn&#039;t a referendum at all?  I&#039;ll force myself to watch a bit tonight to see what they&#039;re saying here.



It&#039;s hard to watch CNN Europe because they really have to speak to their market, and boy does it show.  Walter Rodgers (freshly returned from Baghdad) was just ecstatic after the first debate and was leading into his opinions with things like, &quot;I don&#039;t want to sound partisan but....&quot; (cue laughter from the British anchor) followed by either a Bush putdown or praise for Kerry.  It actually made me laugh it was so preposterous.  I even spent some time searching CNN.com hoping to find transcripts, but no such luck.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, and I wish I&#8217;d seen this post earlier.  I&#8217;ve been on a business trip in Germany for the last 2 weeks and accidently watch CNN Europe every now and then.  Before the Australian election they repeated quite often their news/opinion it was a referendum on the Iraq war. Listening to this I figured they were pretty sure Howard was going to lose.  So I was surprised when he won, and now they&#8217;re saying it wasn&#8217;t a referendum at all?  I&#8217;ll force myself to watch a bit tonight to see what they&#8217;re saying here.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to watch CNN Europe because they really have to speak to their market, and boy does it show.  Walter Rodgers (freshly returned from Baghdad) was just ecstatic after the first debate and was leading into his opinions with things like, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to sound partisan but&#8230;.&#8221; (cue laughter from the British anchor) followed by either a Bush putdown or praise for Kerry.  It actually made me laugh it was so preposterous.  I even spent some time searching CNN.com hoping to find transcripts, but no such luck.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/09/down-under-augury/#comment-20470</link>
		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least someone brought it out into the open.  This was posted over at timblair.org in the Yes! thread...



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It looks like the government has stolen the election with scare tactics over interest rates. But why did the Australian public buy into these fears when top economists and Bearnie Frazer said that interest rates would be no different under Labor?



The answer is The Jews. Everyone knows the Jews run the international money market and that they would raise interest rates in order to punish Australia for voting Latham in.

Posted by: orgram at October 10, 2004 at 04:38 PM &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



There was a nice healthy streak of anti-semitism in the anti-Howard campaign; read the embarrassing Margo Kingston&#039;s columns on the Sydney Morning Herald web page.  Nice to see it get slapped down so decisively...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least someone brought it out into the open.  This was posted over at timblair.org in the Yes! thread&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It looks like the government has stolen the election with scare tactics over interest rates. But why did the Australian public buy into these fears when top economists and Bearnie Frazer said that interest rates would be no different under Labor?</p>
<p>The answer is The Jews. Everyone knows the Jews run the international money market and that they would raise interest rates in order to punish Australia for voting Latham in.</p>
<p>Posted by: orgram at October 10, 2004 at 04:38 PM &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>There was a nice healthy streak of anti-semitism in the anti-Howard campaign; read the embarrassing Margo Kingston&#8217;s columns on the Sydney Morning Herald web page.  Nice to see it get slapped down so decisively&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/10/09/down-under-augury/#comment-20469</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WASHINGTON POST PUTS HOWARD ELECTION VICTORY ON FRONT PAGE!



Just kidding.  It&#039;s on page A34.  The front page is reserved for the Afghanistan election &quot;debacle&quot; and some unhappy marines in Iraq.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WASHINGTON POST PUTS HOWARD ELECTION VICTORY ON FRONT PAGE!</p>
<p>Just kidding.  It&#8217;s on page A34.  The front page is reserved for the Afghanistan election &#8220;debacle&#8221; and some unhappy marines in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that a lot, Matteo...thanks!  I have an idea that if you&#039;re old enough to recall the Everly Brothers you have a giant laff waiting for you at  http://www.steynonline.com/index2.cfm?edit_id=64  ...as of this moment, it remains up and needs a three-inch scroll-down, it&#039;s their &quot;Bird Dog&quot; smart-assed into &quot;Word Hog&quot;. I&#039;m still laffin&#039;, laffin, laffin&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that a lot, Matteo&#8230;thanks!  I have an idea that if you&#8217;re old enough to recall the Everly Brothers you have a giant laff waiting for you at  <a href="http://www.steynonline.com/index2.cfm?edit_id=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.steynonline.com/index2.cfm?edit_id=64</a>  &#8230;as of this moment, it remains up and needs a three-inch scroll-down, it&#8217;s their &#8220;Bird Dog&#8221; smart-assed into &#8220;Word Hog&#8221;. I&#8217;m still laffin&#8217;, laffin, laffin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 08:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy for the Australians, and think this is a small bonus for Bush.



Kerry&#039;s sister went over there, and essentially campaigned against Howard (&quot;You all are facing terrorist attacks since you supported Bush in Iraq&quot;).  So Australia is yet another US Ally that Kerry has insulted, and would have difficulty working with as President.



How effective will &quot;Mr. Diplomacy&quot;&#039;s pitch be, when he&#039;s pissed off nearly all our allies?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy for the Australians, and think this is a small bonus for Bush.</p>
<p>Kerry&#8217;s sister went over there, and essentially campaigned against Howard (&#8220;You all are facing terrorist attacks since you supported Bush in Iraq&#8221;).  So Australia is yet another US Ally that Kerry has insulted, and would have difficulty working with as President.</p>
<p>How effective will &#8220;Mr. Diplomacy&#8221;&#8216;s pitch be, when he&#8217;s pissed off nearly all our allies?</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has to live directly with the consequences here I am also very happy with the result.

Iraq was probably less of an issue than Labor would have liked it to be though. While the decision to be involved probably did not have anything close to majority support (probably not as unpopular as in Great Britain though) any negative inpact it might have had on the poll was offset by three things: the recognition that things were worse under Saddam (even if he did not have WMD); Bali occured before Iraq so there was a recognition that further attacks such as at Jakarta  embassy could not entirely been blamed on Iraq (ie we were already a target) and a recognition that even if we were wrong to be involved initially we have to finish the job we started. Overall the economy however was a far bigger issue.

My guess is that it will not have the slightest impact on the U.S. election but a change here would have been given significant spin to try and hurt Bush.

Now its up to you guys to do the right thing in a few weeks time (on Melbourne Cup Day in fact)!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has to live directly with the consequences here I am also very happy with the result.</p>
<p>Iraq was probably less of an issue than Labor would have liked it to be though. While the decision to be involved probably did not have anything close to majority support (probably not as unpopular as in Great Britain though) any negative inpact it might have had on the poll was offset by three things: the recognition that things were worse under Saddam (even if he did not have WMD); Bali occured before Iraq so there was a recognition that further attacks such as at Jakarta  embassy could not entirely been blamed on Iraq (ie we were already a target) and a recognition that even if we were wrong to be involved initially we have to finish the job we started. Overall the economy however was a far bigger issue.</p>
<p>My guess is that it will not have the slightest impact on the U.S. election but a change here would have been given significant spin to try and hurt Bush.</p>
<p>Now its up to you guys to do the right thing in a few weeks time (on Melbourne Cup Day in fact)!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Halsted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Halsted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 05:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone remember how Schwarzenegger&#039;s win over Davis was supposed to spell doom for all incombents? At least according to the MSM. That was a load of horse manure too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember how Schwarzenegger&#8217;s win over Davis was supposed to spell doom for all incombents? At least according to the MSM. That was a load of horse manure too.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 03:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to do something material to thank Australia.



How about a Buy Aussie campaign, sort of a &quot;pro-cott&quot;?  Start stocking up on the Shiraz, folks...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to do something material to thank Australia.</p>
<p>How about a Buy Aussie campaign, sort of a &#8220;pro-cott&#8221;?  Start stocking up on the Shiraz, folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nadadoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>nadadoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 03:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matteo, great ad. I&#039;d love to see it!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matteo, great ad. I&#8217;d love to see it!</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matteo



That was great!



But I figured out today what Kerry&#039;s plan is.



Only two words too!



Blame Bush!




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matteo</p>
<p>That was great!</p>
<p>But I figured out today what Kerry&#8217;s plan is.</p>
<p>Only two words too!</p>
<p>Blame Bush!</p>
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