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		<title>By: Kieran Lyons</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/29/who-cares-what-the-networks-think/#comment-18293</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 03:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,



The problem with CSPAN is audience exposure.  CSPAN is a cable/satellite channel, not a broadcast channel.  Even in this day, millions of households do not have cable.



Additionally, there is no way in hell the networks, their OnO&#039;s, or many of their independent affiliates would agree to simulcast CSPAN.  Ain&#039;t gonna happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>The problem with CSPAN is audience exposure.  CSPAN is a cable/satellite channel, not a broadcast channel.  Even in this day, millions of households do not have cable.</p>
<p>Additionally, there is no way in hell the networks, their OnO&#8217;s, or many of their independent affiliates would agree to simulcast CSPAN.  Ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/29/who-cares-what-the-networks-think/#comment-18292</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the RNC on CSpan.



Everybody else was just yak yak yak. I am not stupid I don&#039;t them telling me what I just heard.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the RNC on CSpan.</p>
<p>Everybody else was just yak yak yak. I am not stupid I don&#8217;t them telling me what I just heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Caldwell says the same thing about the Super Bowl.



Time to put the thing on C-Span.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Caldwell says the same thing about the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>Time to put the thing on C-Span.</p>
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		<title>By: gb_in_ga</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/29/who-cares-what-the-networks-think/#comment-18290</link>
		<dc:creator>gb_in_ga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knucklehead:



On being telegenic:



I&#039;m with you on that account.



Let&#039;s use one famous example:  Abraham Lincoln.  I mean, that guy was tall and gangly -- he had Marfan Syndrome, after all.  This guy was NOT telegenic, in other words.  So, if they had TV back in 1860, would he have been elected?  Maybe, and maybe not.



More on Marfan:



http://www.marfan.org/nmf/index.jsp



Personally, being a son of the South, with most of my ancestors being in the South at the time, I would have to say that whether or not he was telegenic or not wouldn&#039;t have mattered much.  Slavery would have been a wash -- my ancestors weren&#039;t slave owners (that I know of) and neither would I have been, so it wouldn&#039;t have been a PERSONAL issue to me.  It wasn&#039;t for most of the Southern voters of that time, either -- most voters didn&#039;t own slaves, anyway.  I just can&#039;t see myself supporting something like that, even then.  I suspect that I would have voted against him anyway, but not because he wasn&#039;t telegenic or because of his stance on slavery.  I would have voted against him because of his stance on States&#039; Rights, and I would have voted against him because of his policies on export taxation and domestic spending.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knucklehead:</p>
<p>On being telegenic:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on that account.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s use one famous example:  Abraham Lincoln.  I mean, that guy was tall and gangly &#8212; he had Marfan Syndrome, after all.  This guy was NOT telegenic, in other words.  So, if they had TV back in 1860, would he have been elected?  Maybe, and maybe not.</p>
<p>More on Marfan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marfan.org/nmf/index.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.marfan.org/nmf/index.jsp</a></p>
<p>Personally, being a son of the South, with most of my ancestors being in the South at the time, I would have to say that whether or not he was telegenic or not wouldn&#8217;t have mattered much.  Slavery would have been a wash &#8212; my ancestors weren&#8217;t slave owners (that I know of) and neither would I have been, so it wouldn&#8217;t have been a PERSONAL issue to me.  It wasn&#8217;t for most of the Southern voters of that time, either &#8212; most voters didn&#8217;t own slaves, anyway.  I just can&#8217;t see myself supporting something like that, even then.  I suspect that I would have voted against him anyway, but not because he wasn&#8217;t telegenic or because of his stance on slavery.  I would have voted against him because of his stance on States&#8217; Rights, and I would have voted against him because of his policies on export taxation and domestic spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/29/who-cares-what-the-networks-think/#comment-18289</link>
		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll add to the &quot;screw the MSM&quot; sentiment.  Put it on radio.  Better yet, have the candidates participate in a moderated IRC chat with some sort of &quot;credentialed&quot; questioners and observers to make sure it is the candidate who answers (I don&#039;t care who does the typing) the questions.  Then blast the questions and answers out to websites and mirrors.



JMO, but I think we worry way too much about what candidates look like - being teeveegenic is too important to people.  Half our best presidents wouldn&#039;t be elected today &#039;cause they were too funky looking or had crappy speaking voices or odd mannerisms.  Kerry isn&#039;t a jerkweed because he looks like Lurch and speaks like Thurston Howell, he&#039;s a jerkweed because he&#039;s a jerkweed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll add to the &#8220;screw the MSM&#8221; sentiment.  Put it on radio.  Better yet, have the candidates participate in a moderated IRC chat with some sort of &#8220;credentialed&#8221; questioners and observers to make sure it is the candidate who answers (I don&#8217;t care who does the typing) the questions.  Then blast the questions and answers out to websites and mirrors.</p>
<p>JMO, but I think we worry way too much about what candidates look like &#8211; being teeveegenic is too important to people.  Half our best presidents wouldn&#8217;t be elected today &#8217;cause they were too funky looking or had crappy speaking voices or odd mannerisms.  Kerry isn&#8217;t a jerkweed because he looks like Lurch and speaks like Thurston Howell, he&#8217;s a jerkweed because he&#8217;s a jerkweed.</p>
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		<title>By: gb_in_ga</title>
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		<dc:creator>gb_in_ga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thibaud:



Stephen Green at VodkaPundit will be drunkblogging it:



http://vodkapundit.com/archives/006780.php



Now, whether or not he&#039;ll be in any condition to do any sort of fast fisking or fact checking afterwards remains to be seen...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thibaud:</p>
<p>Stephen Green at VodkaPundit will be drunkblogging it:</p>
<p><a href="http://vodkapundit.com/archives/006780.php" rel="nofollow">http://vodkapundit.com/archives/006780.php</a></p>
<p>Now, whether or not he&#8217;ll be in any condition to do any sort of fast fisking or fact checking afterwards remains to be seen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thibaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>thibaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see Roger, Glenn, Mickey Kaus and others get together to host a unified blog offering rapid response, fisking and fact-checking against MSM spin. Put a stake in them before the next day&#039;s spin cycle is set.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see Roger, Glenn, Mickey Kaus and others get together to host a unified blog offering rapid response, fisking and fact-checking against MSM spin. Put a stake in them before the next day&#8217;s spin cycle is set.</p>
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		<title>By: jdwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is buried in a WAPO article on FLA



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58088-2004Sep28.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush Urges Supporters to Help Floridians&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Kerry campaign officials said they were happy Bush had agreed to all three debates &lt;b&gt;and cared little about the rules&lt;/b&gt;, some of which the commission said are unenforceable because camera angles are controlled by the television networks. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



Channel Ann Coulter for your snappy cynicsm here:


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is buried in a WAPO article on FLA</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58088-2004Sep28.html" rel="nofollow">Bush Urges Supporters to Help Floridians</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kerry campaign officials said they were happy Bush had agreed to all three debates <b>and cared little about the rules</b>, some of which the commission said are unenforceable because camera angles are controlled by the television networks. </p></blockquote>
<p>Channel Ann Coulter for your snappy cynicsm here:</p>
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		<title>By: gb_in_ga</title>
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		<dc:creator>gb_in_ga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RogerA:



Kabuki Dance:  Yep, my sentiments exactly.  There&#039;s nothing either candidate can say or do that will convince me to swing my vote.  Well, unless GW starts doing a Dr. Strangelove thing, and all that&#039;ll do is convince me to stay home.  Of course, the chance of that happening are about the same as the chance of my stepping out the door to get the paper and getting hit by a meteorite.  MUCH less of a chance even than getting hit by lightning.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RogerA:</p>
<p>Kabuki Dance:  Yep, my sentiments exactly.  There&#8217;s nothing either candidate can say or do that will convince me to swing my vote.  Well, unless GW starts doing a Dr. Strangelove thing, and all that&#8217;ll do is convince me to stay home.  Of course, the chance of that happening are about the same as the chance of my stepping out the door to get the paper and getting hit by a meteorite.  MUCH less of a chance even than getting hit by lightning.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;... my real point is that &lt;b&gt;the debates should not be shown on the networks. They should be on CSPAN only&lt;/b&gt; where an attempt, at least, can be made for impartiality (with the camera, it&#039;s difficult). Then all the networks could chime in afterwards to tell us unwashed what to think.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;



A great idea whose time has come.  There is little or no reason at all to invest any trust in the MSM&#039;s technological/informational complex, equal to or even exceeding the power, in its own way, of Eisenhower&#039;s military/industrial complex.



Trust, whether consciously or unconsciously committed to, is always an investment.  The MSM hasn&#039;t earned it, &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;very much&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; to the contrary.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; my real point is that <b>the debates should not be shown on the networks. They should be on CSPAN only</b> where an attempt, at least, can be made for impartiality (with the camera, it&#8217;s difficult). Then all the networks could chime in afterwards to tell us unwashed what to think.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>A great idea whose time has come.  There is little or no reason at all to invest any trust in the MSM&#8217;s technological/informational complex, equal to or even exceeding the power, in its own way, of Eisenhower&#8217;s military/industrial complex.</p>
<p>Trust, whether consciously or unconsciously committed to, is always an investment.  The MSM hasn&#8217;t earned it, <b><i>very much</i></b> to the contrary.</p>
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