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There’s no other explanation.

Terrye,

Thatís what frighten me so much, because listening to Kerry and Co I hear the answer to these questions and the answer is: Yes.

Kerry is like Ted Turner, who bragged that he could understand Fidel Castro because both he and Fidel were dictators. I have no doubt that it would be easier for Kerry to cut deals with Saddam. Now that Iraq is going to have elections, can you just imagine how complicated the matter will be? One will need to know about Kurds, Shia, Sunni, and God knows what other interests there; what a mess. Indeed, who would want to be bothered by the concerns and demands of the filthy little proles. The good and wise rulers would have decided what is best for them; now of course it is all spoiled. No wonder Kerry cannot stand Allawi.

I think what bothers me the most is that I see so many ordinary, otherwise kind, nice, good people being casually, thoughtlessly cruel, just like our elitist ìdictatorsî. At the same time these people assume moral superiority over us evil warmongers. I guess as long one does not hear, see, or smell or imagine the human suffering, the suffering does not really exist. Let the little kids go naked.

I know that we cannot save everybody, the planet is too screwed up and our resources limited. But shouldnít it be a moral, a good thing to help people if we have an opportunity to do so and it also happens to be in our long-term interest?

you said “Unfortunately, some more or less innocent Arabs will suffer too ….” At the risk of being labelled a racist I will tell you there are not many innocent Arabs. For all the sanctimonious crap about the religion of peace, the Arabs have not, by and large, condemned the pogroms against the Israelis. And I use pogroms in the sense of slaughter of innocents. The Sheiks of Al Azar have been silent; leading Islamic scholars have been silent; and as long as the leadership of the Islamic world remains silent, I tell you: there are no innocent Arabs–even the children are dressed in suicide bomber dress. It is a sick and degenerate culture.

The reason that Jews in WWI were well treated by the Germans, aside from the fact that the Germans were civilized at the time, was because official policy declared that Yiddish speaking people were ancestrally German. This is something for the secular Jewish left to consider.

I thought they might have meant we should have done what the Russians did and send a couple of hundred thousand troops to Afhganistan. The truth is we did Afghanistan by the book, if they don’t like the progress let them blame NATO and UN. They are both there.

As for neighboring countries I don’t think invading Paksitan would help our relations with the Muslim world, any more than taking control of Mecca in Saudia Arabia.

I just think the Dems are looking for something to bitch about. Now in his new ad Kerry is saying there are no weapons no ties to AlQaida and Iraq is a mess. They put Bush out on a limb and now they are trying to saw it off.

I have a challenge for any anti warrior out there:

Explain to me why it is that Clinton is not catching any of this for not turning Saddam loose? It seems the current stand of the Dems is that Saddam should still be in power and if there were not any weapons or programs or ties to terrorists why not turn him loose years ago? Why blame Bush for going after him now? What did Kerry and Kennedy and Byrd and all the rest of these guys who had been in Washington for decades do to bring this to a resolution years ago?

And do you think Saddam should be in power? Do you think we should give Iraq back to him and leave and let him do what he will to Allawi and all the other people of Iraq who trusted and believed us?

[i]‘astrology, magical crystals, nature-worship of various kinds’[/i]

I mean a little more serious ‘isms’ like socialism, communism, trans-nationalism, ‘cosmopolitism’, etc.

When the antisemitism hits him between the eyes he will have no idea why…