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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sam_SM&lt;/b&gt;



Love your blog!



&lt;b&gt;Brown Line&lt;/b&gt;



I agree. Let free speech counter free speech and keep the government out of it.



I think we should declare the media as 527&#039;s and leave it at that. As of now there is no law barring coordination between the media and campaigns. But we can no longer trust the ethics of journalists.



If the only thing that comes out of this is media outlets declaring their bias upfront I&#039;d be satisfied.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sam_SM</b></p>
<p>Love your blog!</p>
<p><b>Brown Line</b></p>
<p>I agree. Let free speech counter free speech and keep the government out of it.</p>
<p>I think we should declare the media as 527&#8242;s and leave it at that. As of now there is no law barring coordination between the media and campaigns. But we can no longer trust the ethics of journalists.</p>
<p>If the only thing that comes out of this is media outlets declaring their bias upfront I&#8217;d be satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown Line</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/22/retraction/#comment-16884</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to an investigation, I think it&#039;s a bad idea, for two reasons. First, it shifts the focus of public debate from what CBS did, to what the feds are doing to CBS. Second, as bad as the CBS fraud is, I&#039;m very leery of having the feds insert themselves into the arena of public discourse, and attempt through laws and court cases determine what is permissible speech. An investigation of CBS could give an unscrupulous administration (e.g., President Hillary Clinton) a terrible weapon against its critics.



The truth is that CBS has already been investigated in the sphere of public discourse, and found guilty. Its reputation is shattered; Rather and all others associated with this story are laughingstocks. We the People have made our judgement - one from which there is no appeal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to an investigation, I think it&#8217;s a bad idea, for two reasons. First, it shifts the focus of public debate from what CBS did, to what the feds are doing to CBS. Second, as bad as the CBS fraud is, I&#8217;m very leery of having the feds insert themselves into the arena of public discourse, and attempt through laws and court cases determine what is permissible speech. An investigation of CBS could give an unscrupulous administration (e.g., President Hillary Clinton) a terrible weapon against its critics.</p>
<p>The truth is that CBS has already been investigated in the sphere of public discourse, and found guilty. Its reputation is shattered; Rather and all others associated with this story are laughingstocks. We the People have made our judgement &#8211; one from which there is no appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine:



I think a retraction from CBS is needed. Rather needs to say that he was wrong, the story is crap and he allowed his patisan prejudice to get the batter of him.



It is not as if the whole damn world does not know what he did. Pretending to be fair and just sorta duped is not going to cut it.



How many other times has he done this kind of thing and we did not find out it was bogus?



I hear Mapes got in some other trouble in Colorado by breaking the rules at a prison. She seems to be kinda cavalier about the whole rules thing...



I wonder how much of the Abut Ghraib story was juiced up? They had a choice there, let the army prosecute these people and report on the story or go that extra mile and publish the pictures and maximize the damage. They chose the latter knowing we had men in the field.



To what purpose? It is obvious they have betrayed the public trust, and not for the first time I am sure.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine:</p>
<p>I think a retraction from CBS is needed. Rather needs to say that he was wrong, the story is crap and he allowed his patisan prejudice to get the batter of him.</p>
<p>It is not as if the whole damn world does not know what he did. Pretending to be fair and just sorta duped is not going to cut it.</p>
<p>How many other times has he done this kind of thing and we did not find out it was bogus?</p>
<p>I hear Mapes got in some other trouble in Colorado by breaking the rules at a prison. She seems to be kinda cavalier about the whole rules thing&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder how much of the Abut Ghraib story was juiced up? They had a choice there, let the army prosecute these people and report on the story or go that extra mile and publish the pictures and maximize the damage. They chose the latter knowing we had men in the field.</p>
<p>To what purpose? It is obvious they have betrayed the public trust, and not for the first time I am sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Sligobob</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part of the &quot;Fortunate Windsurfer&quot; ad is the part where Kerry is going one direction and the big ferry representing the rest of the country, which knows which way it wants to go, is powering on past him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of the &#8220;Fortunate Windsurfer&#8221; ad is the part where Kerry is going one direction and the big ferry representing the rest of the country, which knows which way it wants to go, is powering on past him.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/22/retraction/#comment-16881</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:



I remember when my boss at OP-96 (Navy staff) was briefing a requirement.  He was asked why 90% of the requirement was not good enough.  He answered:  &quot;Well Admiral I guess it could be, but it looks to me that you can&#039;t meet your campaign goals unless its all there.&quot;



Point of the parable.  If 10% can critical 50% is decisive.  If you can control 50% of your destiny then can control essentially all of it.



Our entire public education system is now based on the half unearned theory you exposit.  Public education is there to level the human captial across social classes.  The problem is that there exists a private school alternative, which by the way is affordable by almost anybody, i.e., the Catholic School system, which gives either by parental decision or wealth/access a self-selecting few superior human capital.  Why do you think that the education establishment seeks to eliminate honors programs, private school advantage and Home Schoolers?  It prevents the implementation of socialism.



As far as me being grateful the I wasn&#039;t born in the slums of Calcutta, big deal.  I wasn&#039;t and I don&#039;t feel guilty.  As a matter fact I have met a number of people from the Slums of Calcutta over the years.  They seemed to be nice people who somehow managed to get Ph&#039;Ds, law degrees and live nice affluent American lives.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>I remember when my boss at OP-96 (Navy staff) was briefing a requirement.  He was asked why 90% of the requirement was not good enough.  He answered:  &#8220;Well Admiral I guess it could be, but it looks to me that you can&#8217;t meet your campaign goals unless its all there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Point of the parable.  If 10% can critical 50% is decisive.  If you can control 50% of your destiny then can control essentially all of it.</p>
<p>Our entire public education system is now based on the half unearned theory you exposit.  Public education is there to level the human captial across social classes.  The problem is that there exists a private school alternative, which by the way is affordable by almost anybody, i.e., the Catholic School system, which gives either by parental decision or wealth/access a self-selecting few superior human capital.  Why do you think that the education establishment seeks to eliminate honors programs, private school advantage and Home Schoolers?  It prevents the implementation of socialism.</p>
<p>As far as me being grateful the I wasn&#8217;t born in the slums of Calcutta, big deal.  I wasn&#8217;t and I don&#8217;t feel guilty.  As a matter fact I have met a number of people from the Slums of Calcutta over the years.  They seemed to be nice people who somehow managed to get Ph&#8217;Ds, law degrees and live nice affluent American lives.</p>
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		<title>By: ms anne</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on officially investigating cbs and dan for fraud and forgery etc etc, who would do it?  elliot spitzer in ny? the fbi?  who would be the enforcement arm of the law?  we don&#039;t want the spitting match of a congressional hearing in the commerce and telecom committees.  we want subpoenas, attorneys, and the prospect of jail time.  think martha and enron.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on officially investigating cbs and dan for fraud and forgery etc etc, who would do it?  elliot spitzer in ny? the fbi?  who would be the enforcement arm of the law?  we don&#8217;t want the spitting match of a congressional hearing in the commerce and telecom committees.  we want subpoenas, attorneys, and the prospect of jail time.  think martha and enron.</p>
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine,



Thanks for that quotation from Arrow.

&lt;blockquote&gt;a person with one corporate connection would be expected to earn $19,570. By contrast, a person with links to five companies would be expected to earn $30,410.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



This is supposed to be surprising? Everyone in business knows that business thrives on personal contacts and networking. So, for that matter, does academia, they&#039;re just not as upfront about it. It&#039;s rather obvious that when you increase demand for your services by increasing the pool of &quot;consumers&quot; for your services then, in a supply-and-demand economy, the price of your services will go up.



One thing that has always irritated me about those studies which look at, say, number of years of experience, number of years of schooling, etc., in order to assess whether people are &quot;fairly&quot; paid, is that there are an unlimited number of variables which matter beyond these easily measurable ones. For example, do you come to work on time?, are you easy to get along with?, do you take responsibility?, are you willing to go the extra mile when necessary?, etc. All of these things matter quite a bit and have a big effect on ones success in the work-world. But these things are hard to even qualify, let alone measure. Whenever disparity is found based on the standard variables, the conclusion is that there is some sort of unseen prejudice. This view has even been enshrined in court cases. That however doesn&#039;t follow from the facts.



The truth is that in a competitive business environment businesses are going to do very well at picking individuals who do well at the job, or they are going to go out of business. Only in monopolies like the Post Office or the public school system can the institution afford to hire unqualified individuals.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine,</p>
<p>Thanks for that quotation from Arrow.</p>
<blockquote><p>a person with one corporate connection would be expected to earn $19,570. By contrast, a person with links to five companies would be expected to earn $30,410.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is supposed to be surprising? Everyone in business knows that business thrives on personal contacts and networking. So, for that matter, does academia, they&#8217;re just not as upfront about it. It&#8217;s rather obvious that when you increase demand for your services by increasing the pool of &#8220;consumers&#8221; for your services then, in a supply-and-demand economy, the price of your services will go up.</p>
<p>One thing that has always irritated me about those studies which look at, say, number of years of experience, number of years of schooling, etc., in order to assess whether people are &#8220;fairly&#8221; paid, is that there are an unlimited number of variables which matter beyond these easily measurable ones. For example, do you come to work on time?, are you easy to get along with?, do you take responsibility?, are you willing to go the extra mile when necessary?, etc. All of these things matter quite a bit and have a big effect on ones success in the work-world. But these things are hard to even qualify, let alone measure. Whenever disparity is found based on the standard variables, the conclusion is that there is some sort of unseen prejudice. This view has even been enshrined in court cases. That however doesn&#8217;t follow from the facts.</p>
<p>The truth is that in a competitive business environment businesses are going to do very well at picking individuals who do well at the job, or they are going to go out of business. Only in monopolies like the Post Office or the public school system can the institution afford to hire unqualified individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine:



Yes,  the beginning of the ad is so warm and cuddly. Golden Morning in America with W and Laura.



Very good !!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine:</p>
<p>Yes,  the beginning of the ad is so warm and cuddly. Golden Morning in America with W and Laura.</p>
<p>Very good !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, good chart and a nice blog, Sam.



I was very moved by the picture of Granny Liu.  I only hope that she does not hand all her charity earning to ungrateful son-in-law, who then beats and starves her.



So much for being a mean Republican.  All talkÖ


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, good chart and a nice blog, Sam.</p>
<p>I was very moved by the picture of Granny Liu.  I only hope that she does not hand all her charity earning to ungrateful son-in-law, who then beats and starves her.</p>
<p>So much for being a mean Republican.  All talkÖ</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sam_S&lt;/b&gt;



The only thing you left out is that Kerry&#039;s numbers dropped as soon as Edwards gave his acceptance speech, then dropped again after Kerry gave &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; acceptance speech.



(At least, that&#039;s what I picked up the time I tried to do this.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sam_S</b></p>
<p>The only thing you left out is that Kerry&#8217;s numbers dropped as soon as Edwards gave his acceptance speech, then dropped again after Kerry gave <i>his</i> acceptance speech.</p>
<p>(At least, that&#8217;s what I picked up the time I tried to do this.)</p>
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