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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/20/rathergate-the-apology-of-the-pompous/#comment-16485</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wonder how much of a lag there is to TradeSports. I know that it is real time trading but I wonder if the trading is based on hunches as the direction of the polls. I&#039;m going to have to look at them more closely. Perhaps they are closer to reality than I had previously thought.&lt;/i&gt;



Rick, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385503865/102-0557374-4458535?v=glance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;wisdom of crowds&quot;&lt;/a&gt; hypothesis would suggest that they do.



It&#039;s interesting stuff.  A little hard to explain, but very interesting stuff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I wonder how much of a lag there is to TradeSports. I know that it is real time trading but I wonder if the trading is based on hunches as the direction of the polls. I&#8217;m going to have to look at them more closely. Perhaps they are closer to reality than I had previously thought.</i></p>
<p>Rick, the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385503865/102-0557374-4458535?v=glance" rel="nofollow">&#8220;wisdom of crowds&#8221;</a> hypothesis would suggest that they do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting stuff.  A little hard to explain, but very interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WB,



I wonder how much of a lag there is to TradeSports. I know that it is real time trading but I wonder if the trading is based on hunches as the direction of the polls. I&#039;m going to have to look at them more closely. Perhaps they are closer to reality than I had previously thought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WB,</p>
<p>I wonder how much of a lag there is to TradeSports. I know that it is real time trading but I wonder if the trading is based on hunches as the direction of the polls. I&#8217;m going to have to look at them more closely. Perhaps they are closer to reality than I had previously thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Vexorg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vexorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WichitaBoy:



I&#039;m not seeing the bias quite as obviously as you are.  Locally, the Borders had Unfit for Command on the table in the front of the store (quite prominently, from what I could see) and even though the bias is there, it&#039;s not as complete as you seem to imply, at least here. And the Costco is actually more well-balanced than most places in their book selection.  At various times, I&#039;ve seen Coulter, Hannity and quite a few of the other prominent conservatives fairly well represented on the book table there.  Selection, as always, is hit-or-miss, so it&#039;s more a matter of what&#039;s come out recently than anything, I imagine.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WichitaBoy:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not seeing the bias quite as obviously as you are.  Locally, the Borders had Unfit for Command on the table in the front of the store (quite prominently, from what I could see) and even though the bias is there, it&#8217;s not as complete as you seem to imply, at least here. And the Costco is actually more well-balanced than most places in their book selection.  At various times, I&#8217;ve seen Coulter, Hannity and quite a few of the other prominent conservatives fairly well represented on the book table there.  Selection, as always, is hit-or-miss, so it&#8217;s more a matter of what&#8217;s come out recently than anything, I imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WichitaBoy:



&lt;i&gt; they will pull out all the stops.&lt;/i&gt;



And I think it will be overkill. Their credibility will dive even further. This stuff works as long as folks believe it. As soon as they begin to doubt, it just reinforces the doubt. Like a psychic who claims to read the hidden card 99.999% percent of the time, folks will find it unbelievable and conclude the MSM are lying. The 61st minute has started perceptions in that direction, it could&#039;nt have arrived at a better time for Bush.



Mitsubishi has pulled all $160M of its advertising from the Networks, they felt they were paying too much for the number of viewers reached. If the viewership starts to drop we may be coming up to a tipping point, and a year or two from now the MSM may be unrecognizable. Well, real different anyway.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WichitaBoy:</p>
<p><i> they will pull out all the stops.</i></p>
<p>And I think it will be overkill. Their credibility will dive even further. This stuff works as long as folks believe it. As soon as they begin to doubt, it just reinforces the doubt. Like a psychic who claims to read the hidden card 99.999% percent of the time, folks will find it unbelievable and conclude the MSM are lying. The 61st minute has started perceptions in that direction, it could&#8217;nt have arrived at a better time for Bush.</p>
<p>Mitsubishi has pulled all $160M of its advertising from the Networks, they felt they were paying too much for the number of viewers reached. If the viewership starts to drop we may be coming up to a tipping point, and a year or two from now the MSM may be unrecognizable. Well, real different anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,



Both parties expect an attack and have gamed it to the nth degree. It won&#039;t help the Dems if it happens too late. I am not accusing the Dem &lt;i&gt;party&lt;/i&gt; of this at all. If you look at Kerry and his quest for power, the &#039;96 election is illustrative. Kerry and Weld made what appeared to be a binding spending pact early on in the campaign. When Kerry got too far behind and definitely appeared to be losing, he broke that pact (and his word) as if it didn&#039;t exist. Weld didn&#039;t have time to raise sufficient dough and was narrowly beaten. That is the basis for Kerry&#039;s thin reputation for being a &quot;strong closer&quot;.



The party didn&#039;t stand him up and make him give that speech today. It was his decision. He&#039;s a dangerous man, as I said earlier, nothing is out of bounds for him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>Both parties expect an attack and have gamed it to the nth degree. It won&#8217;t help the Dems if it happens too late. I am not accusing the Dem <i>party</i> of this at all. If you look at Kerry and his quest for power, the &#8217;96 election is illustrative. Kerry and Weld made what appeared to be a binding spending pact early on in the campaign. When Kerry got too far behind and definitely appeared to be losing, he broke that pact (and his word) as if it didn&#8217;t exist. Weld didn&#8217;t have time to raise sufficient dough and was narrowly beaten. That is the basis for Kerry&#8217;s thin reputation for being a &#8220;strong closer&#8221;.</p>
<p>The party didn&#8217;t stand him up and make him give that speech today. It was his decision. He&#8217;s a dangerous man, as I said earlier, nothing is out of bounds for him.</p>
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		<title>By: WichitaBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WichitaBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Ballard,



&lt;i&gt;The polls shifted very strongly in W&#039;s favor after the Republican convention and are actually continuing to build for him - especially in swing states.&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;a href=&quot;http://geekmedia.org/tradesports/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s some confirmation of that from TradeSports. I&#039;ve been fascinated to watch this in the last couple of weeks. I&#039;ve seen Missouri and Ohio go from Kerry to neutral to Bush to strong Bush. Now Wisconsin has flipped to Bush and suddenly today Iowa and New Hampshire have flipped neutral. Pennsylvania is very weak Kerry, while Minnesota, New Mexico and Oregon are weak Kerry. I now expect all of Iowa, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania to flip over to Bush.



What can Kerry do? I think all Iraq all the time is what is left. The MSM will do all it can, showing nasty pictures from Iraq and emphasizing American deaths there 24/7. They know they&#039;re losing; they think it&#039;s a matter of life and death that they win; they will pull out all the stops.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Ballard,</p>
<p><i>The polls shifted very strongly in W&#8217;s favor after the Republican convention and are actually continuing to build for him &#8211; especially in swing states.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://geekmedia.org/tradesports/" rel="nofollow">Here</a>&#8216;s some confirmation of that from TradeSports. I&#8217;ve been fascinated to watch this in the last couple of weeks. I&#8217;ve seen Missouri and Ohio go from Kerry to neutral to Bush to strong Bush. Now Wisconsin has flipped to Bush and suddenly today Iowa and New Hampshire have flipped neutral. Pennsylvania is very weak Kerry, while Minnesota, New Mexico and Oregon are weak Kerry. I now expect all of Iowa, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania to flip over to Bush.</p>
<p>What can Kerry do? I think all Iraq all the time is what is left. The MSM will do all it can, showing nasty pictures from Iraq and emphasizing American deaths there 24/7. They know they&#8217;re losing; they think it&#8217;s a matter of life and death that they win; they will pull out all the stops.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Katherine&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;i&gt;I cannot stand nicey-nicey people (and sweet little old ladiesÔøΩ...&lt;/i&gt;



Great. I kind of feel like being mean to innocent, sweet little old ladies. If any post on this thread, I&#039;m going to say something really cruel and boorish...



;-)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Katherine</b></p>
<p><i>I cannot stand nicey-nicey people (and sweet little old ladiesÔøΩ&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Great. I kind of feel like being mean to innocent, sweet little old ladies. If any post on this thread, I&#8217;m going to say something really cruel and boorish&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ìI interpret that as an invitation to al Queada that their moment has come.î



Jesus, Rick, this is not only sinister, but truly evil, if true.



But Kerry is working very hard on the ìnuttier than an almond tree in Augustî image, so I am starting to believe that he is capable of anythingÖ.



ìI&#039;m actually a mean S.O.B.î



Jamie, thatís cool, I cannot stand nicey-nicey people (and sweet little old ladiesÖ.)




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ìI interpret that as an invitation to al Queada that their moment has come.î</p>
<p>Jesus, Rick, this is not only sinister, but truly evil, if true.</p>
<p>But Kerry is working very hard on the ìnuttier than an almond tree in Augustî image, so I am starting to believe that he is capable of anythingÖ.</p>
<p>ìI&#8217;m actually a mean S.O.B.î</p>
<p>Jamie, thatís cool, I cannot stand nicey-nicey people (and sweet little old ladiesÖ.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Katherine&lt;/b&gt;



I&#039;m actually a mean S.O.B.



;-)





&lt;b&gt;Rick&lt;/b&gt;



Thanks.



Wow! Could these guys (the Democrats) have sunk &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; far?



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Katherine</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually a mean S.O.B.</p>
<p> <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><b>Rick</b></p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Wow! Could these guys (the Democrats) have sunk <i>that</i> far?</p>
<p>Jamie Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Larry R Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry R Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who heard on TV that Mary Mapes&#039; father denonunced her as a militant feminist?  Would a militant feminist be fair and balanced toward George W Bush?  Would a militant feminist invite Joe Lockhart to call her source for a hit piece on Bush?  Would a militant feminist be a Kerry supporter?



I ask you decide
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who heard on TV that Mary Mapes&#8217; father denonunced her as a militant feminist?  Would a militant feminist be fair and balanced toward George W Bush?  Would a militant feminist invite Joe Lockhart to call her source for a hit piece on Bush?  Would a militant feminist be a Kerry supporter?</p>
<p>I ask you decide</p>
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