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		<title>By: johnnyMC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/09/13/for-once-i-agree-with-the-government-of-iran/#comment-14535</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heres my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.privateradio.org/blog/archives/2004/09/08/kerry-we-will-fuel-iran/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my take on it:&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;b&gt;What the Kerry/Edwards &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/strategy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;strategy&lt;/a&gt; says&lt;/b&gt;

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&lt;b&gt;Prevent Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons.&lt;/b&gt; A nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and our allies in the region. While we have been preoccupied in Iraq, Iran has reportedly been moving ahead with its nuclear program. We can no longer sit on the sidelines and leave the negotiations to the Europeans. It is critical that we work with our allies to resolve these issues and lead a global effort to prevent Iran from obtaining the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs. John Kerry&#039;s proposal would call their bluff by organizing a group of states to offer Iran the nuclear fuel they need for peaceful purposes and take back the spent fuel so they cannot divert it to build a weapon. If Iran does not accept this offer, their true motivations will be clear. Under the current circumstances, John Kerry believes we should support the International Atomic Energy Agency&#039;s (IAEA) efforts to discern the full extent of Iran&#039;s nuclear program, while pushing Iran to agree to a verifiable and permanent suspension of its enrichment and reprocessing programs. If this process fails, we must lead the effort to ensure that the IAEA takes this issue to the Security Council for action.

&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;b&gt;What it really means&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Prevent Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons.&lt;/b&gt; A nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and   Israel in the region. While we have been preoccupied in Iraq, Iran has   been moving ahead with its  nuclear weapons program. We can no longer sit on the sidelines and leave the   concessions to the Europeans. It is critical that we work with our allies to resolve these issues and lead a global effort to prevent Iran from obtaining the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs.   JOhnKErry&#039;s proposal would   not call their bluff by   disorganizing a group of states to   give Iran the fuel they need for weapons purposes and take back the spent fuel so they   can divert it later to build   weapons. If Iran   accepts this offer their true motivations will be unclear. Under the current circumstances,    JOhnKErry  believes we should support the International Atomic Energy Agency&#039;s (IAEA)   weak efforts  to discern the full extent of Iran&#039;s   nuclear weapons program, while pushing Iran to agree to a   unverifiable and   temporary suspension of its enrichment and reprocessing programs.   When this process fails, we must lead the effort to ensure that the IAEA takes this issue to the Security Council for   inaction.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres my <a href="http://www.privateradio.org/blog/archives/2004/09/08/kerry-we-will-fuel-iran/" rel="nofollow">my take on it:</a></p>
<p><b>What the Kerry/Edwards <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/strategy.html" rel="nofollow">strategy</a> says</b></p>
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<p><b>Prevent Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons.</b> A nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and our allies in the region. While we have been preoccupied in Iraq, Iran has reportedly been moving ahead with its nuclear program. We can no longer sit on the sidelines and leave the negotiations to the Europeans. It is critical that we work with our allies to resolve these issues and lead a global effort to prevent Iran from obtaining the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs. John Kerry&#8217;s proposal would call their bluff by organizing a group of states to offer Iran the nuclear fuel they need for peaceful purposes and take back the spent fuel so they cannot divert it to build a weapon. If Iran does not accept this offer, their true motivations will be clear. Under the current circumstances, John Kerry believes we should support the International Atomic Energy Agency&#8217;s (IAEA) efforts to discern the full extent of Iran&#8217;s nuclear program, while pushing Iran to agree to a verifiable and permanent suspension of its enrichment and reprocessing programs. If this process fails, we must lead the effort to ensure that the IAEA takes this issue to the Security Council for action.</p>
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<p><b>What it really means</b></p>
<p><i><b>Prevent Iran From Developing Nuclear Weapons.</b> A nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States and   Israel in the region. While we have been preoccupied in Iraq, Iran has   been moving ahead with its  nuclear weapons program. We can no longer sit on the sidelines and leave the   concessions to the Europeans. It is critical that we work with our allies to resolve these issues and lead a global effort to prevent Iran from obtaining the technology necessary to build nuclear weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs.   JOhnKErry&#8217;s proposal would   not call their bluff by   disorganizing a group of states to   give Iran the fuel they need for weapons purposes and take back the spent fuel so they   can divert it later to build   weapons. If Iran   accepts this offer their true motivations will be unclear. Under the current circumstances,    JOhnKErry  believes we should support the International Atomic Energy Agency&#8217;s (IAEA)   weak efforts  to discern the full extent of Iran&#8217;s   nuclear weapons program, while pushing Iran to agree to a   unverifiable and   temporary suspension of its enrichment and reprocessing programs.   When this process fails, we must lead the effort to ensure that the IAEA takes this issue to the Security Council for   inaction.</p>
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		<title>By: ricpic</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel will not let Iran go nuclear. This is life and death for them. No matter how hardened the facilities, no matter how many sorties are recquired, no matter how many pilots and planes they lose doing it, if we don&#039;t take out the reactor(s) Israel will.



There is a tip point at which Israel will go and it is completely independent of the repurcussions. When the Mosad determines that Iran is on the verge -- Israel will launch.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel will not let Iran go nuclear. This is life and death for them. No matter how hardened the facilities, no matter how many sorties are recquired, no matter how many pilots and planes they lose doing it, if we don&#8217;t take out the reactor(s) Israel will.</p>
<p>There is a tip point at which Israel will go and it is completely independent of the repurcussions. When the Mosad determines that Iran is on the verge &#8212; Israel will launch.</p>
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		<title>By: thibaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>thibaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EUros are of little help to us with Iran. In fact, they&#039;re more useful to the mullahs, who can play them off against us.



If we are to successfully contain Iran, and prevent WMD from seeping out of that candy store to Iran&#039;s north that is the former Soviet Union, then of course the crucial nation for us is Russia.



It&#039;s helpful to think of Russia as like Pakistan in this sense: a neighboring, very powerful, nuclear-armed state in which large elements of the security forces are deeply hostile to the US and over which the putative strongman barely rules. As with Musharraf, we need a full-court diplomatic press to get Putin on our side, immediately.



Spend whatever it takes-- $10 billion to wean Russia&#039;s nuclear industry off of Iran? No problem. Joint military exercises in Pankisi Gorge? Let&#039;s talk about it. Increasing tenfold the nuke nonproliferation program budget for Russian scientists? Done.



The other crucial nation is of course India, which has long had decent relations with Iran. Again, bribery, bullying, patient but diligent diplomacy, but get the job done. Do what it takes to get India and Russia on your side.



Who will be better at this, Bush or Kerry? It&#039;s pretty obvious that Bush&#039;s people, when Bush wants them to, are remarkably adept at diplomacy in that region. Note how Armitage and Powell transformed the US relationship with India-Pakistan into a real honest broker relationship that brings very tangible benefits to us, the Indians and Musharraf both. They can do so again with Putin if they set their minds to it.



As to Kerry, he and his Europhiles (Daalder, Holbrooke et al) seem to me to be too far behind the curve-- they still think Europe&#039;s the center of the universe. They&#039;d probably waste countless cycles with Straw and the other EU jokers, as they did over Bosnia, instead of bypassing these clowns and going East, toward the crucial nations that truly can help or harm us.



Asian Century now, Americans. Russia, India, China

(and of course Turkey, Israel and Japan) are the crucial nations for us, not France and Germany.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EUros are of little help to us with Iran. In fact, they&#8217;re more useful to the mullahs, who can play them off against us.</p>
<p>If we are to successfully contain Iran, and prevent WMD from seeping out of that candy store to Iran&#8217;s north that is the former Soviet Union, then of course the crucial nation for us is Russia.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s helpful to think of Russia as like Pakistan in this sense: a neighboring, very powerful, nuclear-armed state in which large elements of the security forces are deeply hostile to the US and over which the putative strongman barely rules. As with Musharraf, we need a full-court diplomatic press to get Putin on our side, immediately.</p>
<p>Spend whatever it takes&#8211; $10 billion to wean Russia&#8217;s nuclear industry off of Iran? No problem. Joint military exercises in Pankisi Gorge? Let&#8217;s talk about it. Increasing tenfold the nuke nonproliferation program budget for Russian scientists? Done.</p>
<p>The other crucial nation is of course India, which has long had decent relations with Iran. Again, bribery, bullying, patient but diligent diplomacy, but get the job done. Do what it takes to get India and Russia on your side.</p>
<p>Who will be better at this, Bush or Kerry? It&#8217;s pretty obvious that Bush&#8217;s people, when Bush wants them to, are remarkably adept at diplomacy in that region. Note how Armitage and Powell transformed the US relationship with India-Pakistan into a real honest broker relationship that brings very tangible benefits to us, the Indians and Musharraf both. They can do so again with Putin if they set their minds to it.</p>
<p>As to Kerry, he and his Europhiles (Daalder, Holbrooke et al) seem to me to be too far behind the curve&#8211; they still think Europe&#8217;s the center of the universe. They&#8217;d probably waste countless cycles with Straw and the other EU jokers, as they did over Bosnia, instead of bypassing these clowns and going East, toward the crucial nations that truly can help or harm us.</p>
<p>Asian Century now, Americans. Russia, India, China</p>
<p>(and of course Turkey, Israel and Japan) are the crucial nations for us, not France and Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right MaDr, and the world is living with it.  Not so greatly, but the Pakis and Indians seem to have their own version of MAD to stop excessive zeal.



Iran needs regime change.  I wonder if a re-elected Bush could get some significant Russian troops for occupation support of Iran, around January?



I wonder what the foreign language learning status is for the US Army, for Persian (Farsi)?



I want Bush re-elected, and regime change in Iran -- right after an election in Iraq; even if it&#039;s not every town in Iraq.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right MaDr, and the world is living with it.  Not so greatly, but the Pakis and Indians seem to have their own version of MAD to stop excessive zeal.</p>
<p>Iran needs regime change.  I wonder if a re-elected Bush could get some significant Russian troops for occupation support of Iran, around January?</p>
<p>I wonder what the foreign language learning status is for the US Army, for Persian (Farsi)?</p>
<p>I want Bush re-elected, and regime change in Iran &#8212; right after an election in Iraq; even if it&#8217;s not every town in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: MaDr</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaDr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction



There already is an &quot;Islamic&quot; bomb - Pakistan.

This will be the first &quot;Islamist&#039;s&quot; bomb.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction</p>
<p>There already is an &#8220;Islamic&#8221; bomb &#8211; Pakistan.</p>
<p>This will be the first &#8220;Islamist&#8217;s&#8221; bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: Clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,



Please don&#039;t claim not to follow Broder&#039;s logic on Israeli nukes.  After all, they&#039;ve had them for decades, in which time they&#039;ve invaded several Arab neighbors, laying claim to their oilfields, raping and pillaging--oh, sorry, that was Saddam&#039;s Iraq wasn&#039;t it?  Nevermind.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t claim not to follow Broder&#8217;s logic on Israeli nukes.  After all, they&#8217;ve had them for decades, in which time they&#8217;ve invaded several Arab neighbors, laying claim to their oilfields, raping and pillaging&#8211;oh, sorry, that was Saddam&#8217;s Iraq wasn&#8217;t it?  Nevermind.</p>
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		<title>By: scaramouoche</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To entrust our lives to the U.N. ferrets, EU appeasers and Iranian jihadis would be more than foolhardy; it would be suicidal.


















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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To entrust our lives to the U.N. ferrets, EU appeasers and Iranian jihadis would be more than foolhardy; it would be suicidal.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The administration is on record as saying that a nuclear armed Iran is unacceptable. Precisely what this means in practice, I am not sure, but I don&#039;t think it means standing by and wringing hands. Russia is more important than Europe in this, and I note that ties with Russia are being carefully cultivated after Beslan. The Euros are also being nudged into line. I think the diplomatic ground work for action is well underway and will bear fruit in the near term. One more reason to vote for Bush, as the foreign policy of a new administration would take at least a year to settle in, IMHO.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The administration is on record as saying that a nuclear armed Iran is unacceptable. Precisely what this means in practice, I am not sure, but I don&#8217;t think it means standing by and wringing hands. Russia is more important than Europe in this, and I note that ties with Russia are being carefully cultivated after Beslan. The Euros are also being nudged into line. I think the diplomatic ground work for action is well underway and will bear fruit in the near term. One more reason to vote for Bush, as the foreign policy of a new administration would take at least a year to settle in, IMHO.</p>
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