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	<title>Comments on: Which Side Are You On? &#8230; New Jersey Division</title>
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		<title>By: maryatexitzero</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/23/which-side-are-you-on-new-jersey-division/#comment-9111</link>
		<dc:creator>maryatexitzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption has always been a major part of  Jersey politics, especially in Hudson county, where McGreevey is from.



As a Jersey voter and Hudson county resident, I was only shocked to see that McGreevey was willing to tell some small bit of truth about his life. The rest of the story -  the hypocrisy, conflicting accusations and deals made by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1093162009137700.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;party bosses&lt;/a&gt; are just business as usual here.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption has always been a major part of  Jersey politics, especially in Hudson county, where McGreevey is from.</p>
<p>As a Jersey voter and Hudson county resident, I was only shocked to see that McGreevey was willing to tell some small bit of truth about his life. The rest of the story &#8211;  the hypocrisy, conflicting accusations and deals made by <a href="http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1093162009137700.xml" rel="nofollow">party bosses</a> are just business as usual here.</p>
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		<title>By: penwil</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/23/which-side-are-you-on-new-jersey-division/#comment-9110</link>
		<dc:creator>penwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.  Accidently posted to the wrong thread.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.  Accidently posted to the wrong thread.</p>
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		<title>By: penwil</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/23/which-side-are-you-on-new-jersey-division/#comment-9109</link>
		<dc:creator>penwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomorrow&#039;s Wall Street Journal has an editorial that cuts through all the noise and absolutely nails Kerry to the wall.



http://opinionjournal.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow&#8217;s Wall Street Journal has an editorial that cuts through all the noise and absolutely nails Kerry to the wall.</p>
<p><a href="http://opinionjournal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://opinionjournal.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Janis Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps McGreevey was being wise.  Do gay and lesbian partners want legal protections sooner or later?



The word &#039;marriage&#039; kicks a trigger that &#039;domestic partnership&#039; or &#039;civil union&#039; doesn&#039;t.  Look at the polls.  The public seems to be willing to acknowledge commitments without placing such relations in a sacred context.



I&#039;m not interested in a long rehash of whether gay and lesbian relationships are this or that.



Perhaps he was thinking, &quot;What is expedient?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps McGreevey was being wise.  Do gay and lesbian partners want legal protections sooner or later?</p>
<p>The word &#8216;marriage&#8217; kicks a trigger that &#8216;domestic partnership&#8217; or &#8216;civil union&#8217; doesn&#8217;t.  Look at the polls.  The public seems to be willing to acknowledge commitments without placing such relations in a sacred context.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in a long rehash of whether gay and lesbian relationships are this or that.</p>
<p>Perhaps he was thinking, &#8220;What is expedient?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Curley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Curley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, believe me, I thought the whole &quot;I am a gay American,&quot; was contrived as an effort to avoid talking about putting his lover into a highly paid and highly sensitive position for which he was ridiculously underqualified.



What I guess I&#039;m saying is that the only thing that requires one to be in favor of gay marriage is that you are in favor of gay marriage.  It&#039;s not that you&#039;re gay yourself, or that you&#039;re gay and a Democrat, or that you&#039;re gay and use it as an excuse for other crimes.



That said, I suspect that almost all Democratic politicians support gay marriage in their liberal hearts, and that they dissemble about it because they know it&#039;s still a losing issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, believe me, I thought the whole &#8220;I am a gay American,&#8221; was contrived as an effort to avoid talking about putting his lover into a highly paid and highly sensitive position for which he was ridiculously underqualified.</p>
<p>What I guess I&#8217;m saying is that the only thing that requires one to be in favor of gay marriage is that you are in favor of gay marriage.  It&#8217;s not that you&#8217;re gay yourself, or that you&#8217;re gay and a Democrat, or that you&#8217;re gay and use it as an excuse for other crimes.</p>
<p>That said, I suspect that almost all Democratic politicians support gay marriage in their liberal hearts, and that they dissemble about it because they know it&#8217;s still a losing issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, the real scandal is that McGreevy is attempting to hang on to his job just long enough to deprive the people of NJ of the chance to select his successor.  This is unconscionable:  it&#039;s nothing more than the latest episode in his political life designed to advance his own standing at the expense of doing what&#039;s right.  It looks like even gay men can be part of the old boy network.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, the real scandal is that McGreevy is attempting to hang on to his job just long enough to deprive the people of NJ of the chance to select his successor.  This is unconscionable:  it&#8217;s nothing more than the latest episode in his political life designed to advance his own standing at the expense of doing what&#8217;s right.  It looks like even gay men can be part of the old boy network.</p>
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		<title>By: Fausta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;McGeevey is probably just positioning himself for his next campaign.&lt;/i&gt;

Definitely so!  With focus-group tested wording, no less.

From the NYTimes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/22/fashion/22LANG.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Styles section&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If some Americans found it odd that Gov. James E. McGreevey of New Jersey chose to out himself using mannered terminology ó &quot;I am a gay American,&quot; as opposed to &quot;I am gay&quot; ó they should not have. He did not choose it. As widely reported, it was supplied by a gay rights organization, which long ago tested it in focus groups as a way of shifting a public debate about sexual orientation to one about equal rights.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Equal rights my foot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>McGeevey is probably just positioning himself for his next campaign.</i></p>
<p>Definitely so!  With focus-group tested wording, no less.</p>
<p>From the NYTimes <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/22/fashion/22LANG.html" rel="nofollow">Styles section</a><br />
<blockquote>If some Americans found it odd that Gov. James E. McGreevey of New Jersey chose to out himself using mannered terminology ó &#8220;I am a gay American,&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;I am gay&#8221; ó they should not have. He did not choose it. As widely reported, it was supplied by a gay rights organization, which long ago tested it in focus groups as a way of shifting a public debate about sexual orientation to one about equal rights.</p></blockquote>
<p>Equal rights my foot.</p>
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		<title>By: ambisinistral</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/23/which-side-are-you-on-new-jersey-division/#comment-9104</link>
		<dc:creator>ambisinistral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, this is New Jersey we&#039;re talking about. McGeevey is probably just positioning himself for his next campaign.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this is New Jersey we&#8217;re talking about. McGeevey is probably just positioning himself for his next campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Fausta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, McGreevey won&#039;t allow gays to marry if they so desire, while at the same time making a travesty of his own marriage in the process of  positioning himself for a comeback  &lt;i&gt;all for political purposes&lt;/i&gt;.

Atrocious.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, McGreevey won&#8217;t allow gays to marry if they so desire, while at the same time making a travesty of his own marriage in the process of  positioning himself for a comeback  <i>all for political purposes</i>.</p>
<p>Atrocious.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I agree that gays need not be any more monolithic than anyone else. But McGreevey chose to use Gay Rights as the cloak for his atrocious behavior. That is why I respond this way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I agree that gays need not be any more monolithic than anyone else. But McGreevey chose to use Gay Rights as the cloak for his atrocious behavior. That is why I respond this way.</p>
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