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		<title>By: Roberts</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/05/ivy-league-dullards-or-apocalypse-now/#comment-4880</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2004 02:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good plan, Hollywood - go for another thread hijacking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good plan, Hollywood &#8211; go for another thread hijacking.</p>
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		<title>By: hollywood</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/05/ivy-league-dullards-or-apocalypse-now/#comment-4879</link>
		<dc:creator>hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,



See what I mean.  http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040808/D84AMUSG0.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>See what I mean.  <a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040808/D84AMUSG0.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040808/D84AMUSG0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: hollywood</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/05/ivy-league-dullards-or-apocalypse-now/#comment-4878</link>
		<dc:creator>hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 19:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,



Each side is going to continue to try and manipulate the voters until the election is decided.  Here&#039;s a critique of the recent terror alerts.  Were they necessary/credible/conveniently timed?  http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1322a65e-e7db-11d8-bae0-00000e2511c8.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>Each side is going to continue to try and manipulate the voters until the election is decided.  Here&#8217;s a critique of the recent terror alerts.  Were they necessary/credible/conveniently timed?  <a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1322a65e-e7db-11d8-bae0-00000e2511c8.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1322a65e-e7db-11d8-bae0-00000e2511c8.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/05/ivy-league-dullards-or-apocalypse-now/#comment-4877</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 01:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:



Hello.



I don&#039;t think that Kerry ever understood how much he pissed these guys off years ago. I guess they just were not important enough to him to notice back then. I remember the times and I remember Kerry and his silly accent. A lot of people hated him. They called him the same thing alot of the Viet Nam veterans I know today call him: Jane Fonda without tits. I think that would make a nice bumper sticker myself.



I believe them too and I think that after Moore gets to show his outrageous movie all over the planet it looks kinda cowardly to threaten to sue these guys.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Hello.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Kerry ever understood how much he pissed these guys off years ago. I guess they just were not important enough to him to notice back then. I remember the times and I remember Kerry and his silly accent. A lot of people hated him. They called him the same thing alot of the Viet Nam veterans I know today call him: Jane Fonda without tits. I think that would make a nice bumper sticker myself.</p>
<p>I believe them too and I think that after Moore gets to show his outrageous movie all over the planet it looks kinda cowardly to threaten to sue these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine and I both have noticed that GWB&#039;s speech impediment appears to be tied to level of anxiety. When he is comfortable, he is reasonably fluent.



His father also speaks in a funny manner, but it appears to be unrelated to the situation.



I watched Morris and O&#039;Reilly also. O&#039;Reilly was the normal snap-judgement ignoramus that has somehow made him the top TV guy around.



I was a little surprised at Morris&#039; reaction. I wonder if he hasn&#039;t yet adapted to the post-McCain-Feingold world. This group is grass roots. They have their own opinions as individuals. That they were able to tap into some serious money when they ultimately needed it doesn&#039;t surprise me - O&#039;Neil is a prominent Houston attorney.



The Democrats are currently trying three tactics:



1) These people weren&#039;t on Kerry&#039;s boat - true but irrelevant - they fought in groups of boats, very close to each other (a few yards).



2) They have sent out lawyer letters to lots of stations. I don&#039;t know what effect that will cause.



3) They are trying to label the group as republican shills. That may work for their base (except for veterans) but not otherwise.



As to the allegations. I think they are true. These guys have no reason to make anything up.



But the real show comes when the discussion gets to Kerry&#039;s VVAW activities. Not the sideshow of throwing medals away, but the lying statements from his speeches. How will Americans react to the knowledge that Kerry wanted to give Vietnam away? How will they react to the fact that Kerry painted all Vietnam Veterans as war criminals, committers of atrocities, and psychologically damaged. We don&#039;t like that, and I&#039;m going to fly to DC for a Sept 12 rally against those lies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine and I both have noticed that GWB&#8217;s speech impediment appears to be tied to level of anxiety. When he is comfortable, he is reasonably fluent.</p>
<p>His father also speaks in a funny manner, but it appears to be unrelated to the situation.</p>
<p>I watched Morris and O&#8217;Reilly also. O&#8217;Reilly was the normal snap-judgement ignoramus that has somehow made him the top TV guy around.</p>
<p>I was a little surprised at Morris&#8217; reaction. I wonder if he hasn&#8217;t yet adapted to the post-McCain-Feingold world. This group is grass roots. They have their own opinions as individuals. That they were able to tap into some serious money when they ultimately needed it doesn&#8217;t surprise me &#8211; O&#8217;Neil is a prominent Houston attorney.</p>
<p>The Democrats are currently trying three tactics:</p>
<p>1) These people weren&#8217;t on Kerry&#8217;s boat &#8211; true but irrelevant &#8211; they fought in groups of boats, very close to each other (a few yards).</p>
<p>2) They have sent out lawyer letters to lots of stations. I don&#8217;t know what effect that will cause.</p>
<p>3) They are trying to label the group as republican shills. That may work for their base (except for veterans) but not otherwise.</p>
<p>As to the allegations. I think they are true. These guys have no reason to make anything up.</p>
<p>But the real show comes when the discussion gets to Kerry&#8217;s VVAW activities. Not the sideshow of throwing medals away, but the lying statements from his speeches. How will Americans react to the knowledge that Kerry wanted to give Vietnam away? How will they react to the fact that Kerry painted all Vietnam Veterans as war criminals, committers of atrocities, and psychologically damaged. We don&#8217;t like that, and I&#8217;m going to fly to DC for a Sept 12 rally against those lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 20:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subsequent events have shown us that the &quot;retraction&quot; Hollywood links to is written by a reporter who is essentially a Kerry campaign worker and is denied by Elliot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subsequent events have shown us that the &#8220;retraction&#8221; Hollywood links to is written by a reporter who is essentially a Kerry campaign worker and is denied by Elliot.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Morris and O&#039;Reilly last night to.



Notice they didn&#039;t talk at all about whether or not the accusations are true.  Just like the rest of the main stream media.  Didn&#039;t get a chance to watch the debate on Hannity, but he&#039;s not disputing the charges, and has had a few of the vets in this group on.



If the accusations prove true, then it should give pause to many of the undecided voters.  The charges show a young Lt. who disobeyed orders, grandstanded, and took calculated actions for the benefit of a future political career.



In other words it shows in yet another way that John Kerry is a career politician who can&#039;t be trusted to say what he means, or even what he believes.  He&#039;s a self-serving politician who wants his name in the history books.  Not the kind of person I want in charge of the War on Terrorists.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Morris and O&#8217;Reilly last night to.</p>
<p>Notice they didn&#8217;t talk at all about whether or not the accusations are true.  Just like the rest of the main stream media.  Didn&#8217;t get a chance to watch the debate on Hannity, but he&#8217;s not disputing the charges, and has had a few of the vets in this group on.</p>
<p>If the accusations prove true, then it should give pause to many of the undecided voters.  The charges show a young Lt. who disobeyed orders, grandstanded, and took calculated actions for the benefit of a future political career.</p>
<p>In other words it shows in yet another way that John Kerry is a career politician who can&#8217;t be trusted to say what he means, or even what he believes.  He&#8217;s a self-serving politician who wants his name in the history books.  Not the kind of person I want in charge of the War on Terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy, Hollywood, that&#039;s some damning stuff there...  A visiting professor (almost certainly not only non-American by background but quite probably from Japan where expectations of students are quite different, especially in the early 70&#039;s) and finds a jet-jocky American flyboy, &quot;shallow and flippant&quot; back in the early 70&#039;s.



Wow.  That&#039;s gotta be impeachable stuff there.  Shallow and flippant...  man, if I woulda known that...  I coulda voted for a True and Sensitive Intellect...  Hey wait!  I still have a chance to vote for Deep, Introspective, Nuanced Yet Fiercely Bright.  I&#039;m in!  You got me Hollywood.  I&#039;ve been waiting for that one little thing that would turn me toward The Light.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy, Hollywood, that&#8217;s some damning stuff there&#8230;  A visiting professor (almost certainly not only non-American by background but quite probably from Japan where expectations of students are quite different, especially in the early 70&#8242;s) and finds a jet-jocky American flyboy, &#8220;shallow and flippant&#8221; back in the early 70&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Wow.  That&#8217;s gotta be impeachable stuff there.  Shallow and flippant&#8230;  man, if I woulda known that&#8230;  I coulda voted for a True and Sensitive Intellect&#8230;  Hey wait!  I still have a chance to vote for Deep, Introspective, Nuanced Yet Fiercely Bright.  I&#8217;m in!  You got me Hollywood.  I&#8217;ve been waiting for that one little thing that would turn me toward The Light.</p>
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		<title>By: hollywood</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/05/ivy-league-dullards-or-apocalypse-now/#comment-4872</link>
		<dc:creator>hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, Mr. Elliott retracts.  http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/veteran_retracts_criticism_of_kerry/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, Mr. Elliott retracts.  <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/veteran_retracts_criticism_of_kerry/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/veteran_retracts_criticism_of_kerry/</a></p>
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		<title>By: hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one prof&#039;s view of Bush at Harvard Biz School.  Obviously, not the definitive word, but a word nonetheless. http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181
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