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		<title>By: hollywood</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4599</link>
		<dc:creator>hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have this incredibly tight fisted boss who would simultaneously do everything he could to hold on to every last penny while at the same time saying with a straight face, &quot;It&#039;s not about the money.&quot;  Funny how he always ended up with the lion&#039;s share and never did tell us what it really was all about.



Anyway, so much for that digression.  I think it is about the money in this case.  http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0810042kobe1.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have this incredibly tight fisted boss who would simultaneously do everything he could to hold on to every last penny while at the same time saying with a straight face, &#8220;It&#8217;s not about the money.&#8221;  Funny how he always ended up with the lion&#8217;s share and never did tell us what it really was all about.</p>
<p>Anyway, so much for that digression.  I think it is about the money in this case.  <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0810042kobe1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0810042kobe1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Macker</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4598</link>
		<dc:creator>Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Cain:&lt;/b&gt; Double You Tee Eff does Kerry have to do with the Bryant case?



Now, as to the issue at hand:

FACT: Cops f**ked up the investigation...again. This includes the prosecution. Add to that the allegations that the alleged rape victim f**ked some other guy AFTER she was allegedly raped by Bryant, and that does not sit well with me. I wouldnt say she&#039;s a rape victim...but a money-grubbing SLUT.



Kobe&#039;s gonna walk. And then I hope he turns the tables on this so-called &quot;victim&quot; and sues her instead for every damn penny she has!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Cain:</b> Double You Tee Eff does Kerry have to do with the Bryant case?</p>
<p>Now, as to the issue at hand:</p>
<p>FACT: Cops f**ked up the investigation&#8230;again. This includes the prosecution. Add to that the allegations that the alleged rape victim f**ked some other guy AFTER she was allegedly raped by Bryant, and that does not sit well with me. I wouldnt say she&#8217;s a rape victim&#8230;but a money-grubbing SLUT.</p>
<p>Kobe&#8217;s gonna walk. And then I hope he turns the tables on this so-called &#8220;victim&#8221; and sues her instead for every damn penny she has!</p>
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		<title>By: Sally-O</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4597</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 06:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cain, where should I start? How about with the fact that Bush, under the intense scrutiny of the entire world, fought two wars to defend our country? He&#039;s been before us as Commander in Chief for four years, and we&#039;re totally beyond the need to dredge through his past of thirty years ago. Unlike Kerry, whose only claim to the office is a bunch of now discredited war stories, we know Bush intimately and have no doubts about he&#039;ll respond under fire. If the election were being held in 1972, things might look different, but this is 2004. You and Kerry have some catching up to do (not ketchuping up or kvetching up--really, actual catching up).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cain, where should I start? How about with the fact that Bush, under the intense scrutiny of the entire world, fought two wars to defend our country? He&#8217;s been before us as Commander in Chief for four years, and we&#8217;re totally beyond the need to dredge through his past of thirty years ago. Unlike Kerry, whose only claim to the office is a bunch of now discredited war stories, we know Bush intimately and have no doubts about he&#8217;ll respond under fire. If the election were being held in 1972, things might look different, but this is 2004. You and Kerry have some catching up to do (not ketchuping up or kvetching up&#8211;really, actual catching up).</p>
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		<title>By: Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,



Before every conservative in America has a wet dream about these Swift Boat revelations, ask yourselves what YOUR candidate accomplished in his life that merits your utmost respect?



Talk about hypocrisy.








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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>Before every conservative in America has a wet dream about these Swift Boat revelations, ask yourselves what YOUR candidate accomplished in his life that merits your utmost respect?</p>
<p>Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4595</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, w.r.t. the second woman, I haven&#039;t heard anything about it here in Denver.



I&#039;ve got to say, given that Kobe checked into this hotel just a couple of hours before the incident occurred, and was talking to the police about it by the next day, when he was up there for knee surgery, all I can say is he must be a busy little beaver.



Um, maybe that wasn&#039;t the perfect choice of metaphores.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, w.r.t. the second woman, I haven&#8217;t heard anything about it here in Denver.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, given that Kobe checked into this hotel just a couple of hours before the incident occurred, and was talking to the police about it by the next day, when he was up there for knee surgery, all I can say is he must be a busy little beaver.</p>
<p>Um, maybe that wasn&#8217;t the perfect choice of metaphores.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I got up this morning, the news was that the prosecutors had found a second woman who alleged Koby had molested her.  What happened with that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I got up this morning, the news was that the prosecutors had found a second woman who alleged Koby had molested her.  What happened with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Les Nessman</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4593</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Nessman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>f.d.:

&quot;I&#039;m rather surprised that you are so sure the alleged victim in this situation is lying. I&#039;d give her the benefit of the doubt till the court case is underway, at least.&quot;



followed by :



&quot;...I hope this young lady sticks to her guns and puts the boots to Kobe in the way he surely deserves. I hope she gets him in the criminal court and then goes back and gets him in civil court!&quot;



Yikes! So much for &#039;innocent until proven guilty&#039;...




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>f.d.:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m rather surprised that you are so sure the alleged victim in this situation is lying. I&#8217;d give her the benefit of the doubt till the court case is underway, at least.&#8221;</p>
<p>followed by :</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I hope this young lady sticks to her guns and puts the boots to Kobe in the way he surely deserves. I hope she gets him in the criminal court and then goes back and gets him in civil court!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yikes! So much for &#8216;innocent until proven guilty&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rice</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2004/08/04/kobes-travels/#comment-4592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies. It isn&#039;t polite to use up bandwith to post multiple times on a single subject, so forgive me.



The Kobi case strikes me as as just one in a line of legal reality shows. Complete with a cast of characters, little overhead production costs and reverse morality in the sense that everyone is guilty just by appearing.  They do as much damage to our concept of order and our institutions and ideals as Jerry Springer. They demean the people they portray in a kind of Gong show without the benefit of a gong to hurry them along.  But the incalculable harm is to our sense of justice.



That&#039;s why when the elite media features a legal reality case, you know there will be no resolution, even if the media has to work hand in glove to make sure it doesn&#039;t.  In anthropology, the presence of an observer can alter reality.  In legal reality t.v., it always does.



Someone ought to issue a gag order to ABC.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies. It isn&#8217;t polite to use up bandwith to post multiple times on a single subject, so forgive me.</p>
<p>The Kobi case strikes me as as just one in a line of legal reality shows. Complete with a cast of characters, little overhead production costs and reverse morality in the sense that everyone is guilty just by appearing.  They do as much damage to our concept of order and our institutions and ideals as Jerry Springer. They demean the people they portray in a kind of Gong show without the benefit of a gong to hurry them along.  But the incalculable harm is to our sense of justice.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why when the elite media features a legal reality case, you know there will be no resolution, even if the media has to work hand in glove to make sure it doesn&#8217;t.  In anthropology, the presence of an observer can alter reality.  In legal reality t.v., it always does.</p>
<p>Someone ought to issue a gag order to ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: BJR</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the accuser&#039;s attorneys are worried that the way the facts and evidence are being developed in this case, that Kobe will have a rock solid defense that will not only defeat the criminal charges with the &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt standard&quot; but also defeat civil claims with the &quot;by a preponderance of the evidence standard.&quot;  Remember, the job of an attorney is not so much to discover the truth of the matter, but to hide it.  The accuser&#039;s attorneys appear worried that the criminal case will establish an unfavorable factual precedent from any forthcoming civil action.  Since everyday seems to bring more and more evidence in Bryant&#039;s favor, it is in the accuser&#039;s interest to cut off the criminal proceeding, and commence a civil proceeding where her attorneys can have a larger role and impact on shaping the facts to apply to the case.  Regardless of the accuser&#039;s motives, whether it is to obtain some sort of justice for the harm she suffered or whether it is to extort money from a rich celebrity, it appears to be a smart move to end the criminal matter before it goes up in flames.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the accuser&#8217;s attorneys are worried that the way the facts and evidence are being developed in this case, that Kobe will have a rock solid defense that will not only defeat the criminal charges with the &#8220;beyond a reasonable doubt standard&#8221; but also defeat civil claims with the &#8220;by a preponderance of the evidence standard.&#8221;  Remember, the job of an attorney is not so much to discover the truth of the matter, but to hide it.  The accuser&#8217;s attorneys appear worried that the criminal case will establish an unfavorable factual precedent from any forthcoming civil action.  Since everyday seems to bring more and more evidence in Bryant&#8217;s favor, it is in the accuser&#8217;s interest to cut off the criminal proceeding, and commence a civil proceeding where her attorneys can have a larger role and impact on shaping the facts to apply to the case.  Regardless of the accuser&#8217;s motives, whether it is to obtain some sort of justice for the harm she suffered or whether it is to extort money from a rich celebrity, it appears to be a smart move to end the criminal matter before it goes up in flames.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more worried about lawyers for an ongoing case appearing on a breakfast television show than the facts of the Kobi Bryant case.



For one, we don&#039;t know the facts yet. They are filtered by lawyers and prosecutors and everyone in between who has an agenda, not the least ABC and women&#039;s groups they particularly favor.  In Colorado, rape laws are as political as the appointment of judges and prosecutors.  The Colorado law to protect the identity of the victim is a farce.  The victim is an adult, everyone knows her name, so the anonymity provided by calling her the &quot;alleged victim&quot; is preposterous.  The public has as much right to know the name of his accuser as the accused, if only so the public can participate in information sharing.   Not in Colorado.



As for her sexual history, it is no more legally relevant than the history of anyone on trial and wholly irrelevant to the decision making required of juries.



Kobi Bryant means big bucks to someone and you have to wonder at those &quot;accidental&quot; releases of information, but as this is a state where the Ramsey murder case is an example of sterling justice, I never expected better.  Based on what I have read I think all of them are miscreants.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am more worried about lawyers for an ongoing case appearing on a breakfast television show than the facts of the Kobi Bryant case.</p>
<p>For one, we don&#8217;t know the facts yet. They are filtered by lawyers and prosecutors and everyone in between who has an agenda, not the least ABC and women&#8217;s groups they particularly favor.  In Colorado, rape laws are as political as the appointment of judges and prosecutors.  The Colorado law to protect the identity of the victim is a farce.  The victim is an adult, everyone knows her name, so the anonymity provided by calling her the &#8220;alleged victim&#8221; is preposterous.  The public has as much right to know the name of his accuser as the accused, if only so the public can participate in information sharing.   Not in Colorado.</p>
<p>As for her sexual history, it is no more legally relevant than the history of anyone on trial and wholly irrelevant to the decision making required of juries.</p>
<p>Kobi Bryant means big bucks to someone and you have to wonder at those &#8220;accidental&#8221; releases of information, but as this is a state where the Ramsey murder case is an example of sterling justice, I never expected better.  Based on what I have read I think all of them are miscreants.</p>
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