TO: Jules141
RE: Good On You

I am definitely an atheist….– Jules141

You’re one of the few I’ve encountered who’ve admitted to it. I appreciate your forthright announcement.

….and I think all religion should be treated equally.– Jules141

I’m of a like mind.

I have never said people shouldn’t be entitled to religion, and I honestly think all should be entitled to it.– Jules141

Unfortunately, as I’ve seen them (see comments above), you’re one of the few in this regard as well.

RE: Immigration

“There are other aspects of immigration that could be considered. For example, a common or ‘official’ language. You learn it or you go back to where you came from. The thought being along the lines of:

You came here to become one of US. Therefore, become one of US or go back to where you came from.”– Chuck Pelto

Many people seem to be under the impression that foreign people are migrating to Britain only to live there own culture. This is incredibly far from the truth. They do live British culture for the most part. Yes there are few extremists not willing to respect the country, but sending them back is just giving up.– Jules141

Maybe it is ‘far from the truth’, but the evidence we’ve seen to date, would indicate it’s not quite as ‘far from the truth’ as you might believe. I point out the burqas, the honor killings, the bombings, the preaching in the mosques against Western ideals.

What is your response to those items of obvious evidence.

I agree that if people wish to live somewhere, and truly want to live there they should be willing to change and adapt. The truth is: THEY DO. That’s what this news report blows out of proportion.– Jules141

Please re-read my reply to your item immediately above in this comment. And to compound my argument, I will point out that a father murdering his daughter is hardly a news report blown out of proportion. It’s now a statistic.
If you don’t care for facts, where does that leave you?

And it wouldn’t be so bad, but the people immigrating just happen to be suspected terrorists. The media hype feeds off of people’s fear, and in turn creates more fear. Britain is not a weak and cowardly country for accommodating for its “terrorists”, if that’s what you like to call them.– Jules141

Not just ‘suspected’. Or are you forgetting 7/11?

Why don’t you people come and live in the real world where not everyone is trying to blow you up … with the help of the government! I’m not oblivious, I’m not optimistic. I just don’t blindly accept news items as solid evidence (or any kind of evidence at all), and think I have some sort of insight, and that every person who disagrees is ignorant and oblivious to the dark future thats obviously coming.– Jules141

Where did I say “Everyone is trying to blow me up”?

You were talking about blowing things out of proportion, just above here. Seems to me that you’re projecting.

And if everyone WERE out to ‘get me’, would I not be as Will Smith in I Am Legend? Believe me. I’m quite capable of being such. Fortunately apparently everyone isn’t out to get me….yet. My sense of paranoia is not clinical in nature. It is borne of 27 years in the infantry and recognizing reality better than some others can. [Note: You should take some courses from the US Army Command and General Staff College. I recommend something to do with Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield (IPB). The lessons learned there can be applied to politics and business VERY well. Even to such esoteric matters as prophecy, if you have eyes to see.]

RE: The Dark Future

Oh, and that “dark future” that some of you are suggesting:

The dark future where Muslims takeover Britain because a few new PC laws give them rights that they jolly-well don’t deserve!!!

Get off your grassy knoll. — Jules141

The future, from my perspective, i.e., Christian, is hardly ‘dark’. A bit messy, here and there, but hardly the doom you seem to think.

To an atheist it might seem such. Or they might suspect others think such…and I can understand why they might be projecting in that regard {nudge-nudge, wink-wink}. After all, from the atheist perspective there is either (1) eternal nothingness or (2) the unfortunate discovery that Christianity—or some other group—was correct; albeit too late for a change of heart. The former is merely ‘dark’. The latter is literally horrific; a much worse form of ‘dark’.

RE: Can Atheism Survive?

Kimball’s initial thread can be retitled to this.

As I pointed out above, atheists are ill-equipped, mentally and socially, to withstand the onslaught of Islamism. And as evidence, I offer the primate of the Church of England himself. Not to forget some of his more orthodox subordinates. They are bemoaning the falling away from their Faith of the population.

I’ve no hard data, but I suspect that the general population of England is less christian than the general population on US’s side of the big pond. And therein may be an interesting indicator.

As has been proven, time and again throughout the long march of history, people of poor moral are easily overcome by people of a more dedicated moral. How is it I can say this? History. Every time civilization gets knocked to its knees, the self-indulgent societies caught in the crunch are overrun by other, less self-indulgent groups. It’s happened at least five times as far as I’ve noticed.

Atheists are probably the most self-indulgent people on the face of the planet. Each is a god unto him/herself. Therefore, the greater the concentration of atheists, or the ‘unchurched’, in a society, the less likely it is of defending itself against outside pressures of a nefarious nature. Why? Because contrary to President Kennedy’s famous inaugural address, they ask what their country can do for them. Not what they can do for their fellow citizens.

Am I afraid of this? Hardly. I just see it as the natural evolution of societies and the normal progress of history; civilizations rise and fall. And I’m just passing through…..on my way to another venue.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Life is boot camp. We are all expected to go out and become heroes.]

P.S. The question becomes, what is the graduation ‘ceremony’ from ‘boot camp’?

I went through the Army’s ‘boot camp’ at Fort Lewis in the Summer of 1970. Beyond that was a world of adventures….