To Jeff:

There is no victory associated with the Iraq war.Making such a judgment at this time of bloodshed and kind of civil war happening in Iraq, is too naive. For the way the the Bush adminstration is handling this war, I think the outcome is another Vietnam, plus money money money…from the Iraqi oil. This is the single reason for staging this war, believe it or not. And believe me……after the end presidency of Bush, as with all presidents of the US, the rot and waste of his presidency will rise and it will be bigger than any could imagine.