Sz – your examples are completely not relevant as the people making those decisions do not do them on teh baisis of life and death. Oh my decision on buying a house involves life and death because lightening minght strike the house. Please come up with examples that relate. As you your last question ” It is a proven fact that state run health care results in state decisions that delay or deny treatment. How does that outcome benefit a citizen?” That is an assertion without a shred of evidence to support that it is a universal problem. I could just as well assert that it is a proven fact that pribvate run health care results in decisions that deny coverage.