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So exactly why is broaching impeachment tantamount to booking a vacation in Cloud-Cuckoo-Land?  Why would it be “political suicide” to impeach the president even if he engages in behavior everyone acknowledges is impeachable?  Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review, recently wondered in a column whether Obama wanted to be impeached. The president’s threatened action on immigration would be so flagrant an abuse of power that it would be sure to provoke a “major reaction” from Republicans.

What sort of reaction would be major?  Republicans have been cowed into renouncing their constitutionally provided power of the purse.  And the administration seems to have been pretty effective in taking impeachment of the table, too. So what’s left?  Raging like King Lear at Goneril and Regan?  “I will have such revenges on you . . . That all the world shall –  I will do such things / what they are yet I know not, but they shall be / the terrors of the earth.” Toothless bluster, in other words.

Frankly, I prefer the straight talk of folks like Sarah Palin.  I know, I know: she is supposed to be beyond the pale, and besides she didn’t attend the right schools and doesn’t wear the same sorts of eyeglasses the swell folks sport.  She is not as smooth as David Brooks, as measured as Charles Krauthammer.  But maybe, just maybe, she is right.  What then?

Krauthammer warns that it would be “political suicide” to impeach Obama, even if he engages in flagrantly impeachable behavior.  “Political suicide,” i.e., it would be bad for Republicans.  But what if not impeaching him amounted to national suicide? What then?

Andy McCarthy is right: there is no point in impeaching the president unless you can also remove him.  The way to remove him is to build the political case that his untamed lawlessness poses a grave danger to the country.  That should be front and center in any patriot’s calculation, though I am well aware that establishment Republicans would also eschew the label “patriot” as coming too close to Cloud-Cuckoo-Land and, who knows, maybe even political suicide.

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I think Palin is doing a valuable service by being the voice for impeachment. As a non-officeholder and the party's designated loose cannon, she can say it while giving the actual Reps. deniability. What this does is to keep it in the public eye that A) Obama has committed impeachable offenses, and B) the only reason impeachment wouldn't result in removal is that Democrats will vote their party instead of the merits of the case. Overall, this works to Republican benefit.
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Ask me about impeachment on the first Wednesday following the first Tuesday in November.
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Pharaohs can't be impeached, but they can be embalmed.
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"Why would it be “political suicide” to impeach the president even if he engages in behavior everyone acknowledges is impeachable?"
If you can get a significant majority of the nations citizens, say 60%, and 15 senate dems, to agree with you, I am all for it. Otherwise it is a pipe dream. Build your case, fine, but I dont want to hear any talk about the house being cowards for not passing an impeachment resolution until you have those 15 senate dems lined up first.
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Someone here please tell me what the country is supposed to do when Republicans cannot even bring to vote their own immigration bill? Should we all just patiently watch the issues facing our country not be dealt with by our legislative branch? What should Obama do when Republicans do not have their act together enough to agree on a bill in the house?
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The problem is obama and reid are dealing in bad faith. The house knows that any enforcement only bill they pass will be perverted into an amnesty bill by the senate. But if you really want action on an enforcement bill, then why not demand the dem senate pass one. If it really was about enforcement, rather than amnesty, the house would pass it quickly. But in the present climate of bad faith from Obama/Reid, far better to wait till we get a repub senate, when we will know that the final bill will really be about enforcement, not amnesty.
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Obama is unimpeachable because the RINOs say so. End of story.
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No, Obama is unimpeachable because the senate dems will never vote to convict. Show me 15 senate dems who support impeachment, which makes a 2/3 senate conviction vote possible, and I will be all for it. But until then it is a pipe dream.
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..begging the question of the Corruption of Common Political and Personal Interest..
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If you are going to kill the king, you must kill the king. Articles of impeachment brought to a Senate that is controlled by Democrats and Rinos is mere theater unworthy of even silly months of summer.
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Its mainly the dems, not the rhinos. Even if every repub voted to convict, we would need at least 15-20 senate dems to convict.
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The legal and constitutional case for Obama's impeachment is, pardon the expression, unimpeachable. But the political case cannot be made, can never be made. There is no way in he!! that we are ever going to impeach, much less remove from office, our first black president. Race still matters a lot, too much in our politics. That is what Krauthammer means by "political (or national) suicide." Roger, you know Charles, you could pick up the phone and call him. He'd be happy to explain. And you could incorporate that explanation in your next column, without relying on your crutch, Andy McCarthy.
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The name is Bowe Bergdahl. His father's name is Robert, or Bob.
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By any reasonable measuring stick, an impeachment from the House would not result in a conviction by the Senate. Doesn't anyone remember when Bill Clinton was impeached and the Democrats in the Senate wouldn't even LOOK at the evidence? And it would allow the Democrats to change the subject from their & Obama's dismal record to "picking on our first 'black' President". Furthermore,if by some miracle the Democrats in the Senate did their job and Obama was removed, we'd have President Biden. Talk about a nightmare! Our focus must be in winning the Senate and strengthening our control of the House in November. Then winning the Presidency in 2016. Then, and only then, will we be able to start reversing the damage Obama & the Democrats have done.
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Agree completely. The only way to punish obama is to punish his party, until they are as sick of him as we are. It worked for the dems in 2006-2008, and obama is immensly worse than bush ever was. But it wont work if we get distracted by irelvencies, like passing an impeachment resolution that just gets killed by senate dems.
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Impeaching the President as political suicide says a lot about American contemporary culture; none of it nice.

And they wonder why it's going to hell in a hand-basket.
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To arbitrarily reject impeachment is to say that the rule of law in America is at an end, and Obama's despotism is literally unstoppable. That means that the only hope of achieving what the Constitution intended can only be attained by the horribly slippery slope of extra-Constitutional means, i.e., a military coup or assassination.

And do we really want to reach that point? Because that's where rejecting impeachment takes us.
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No, rejecting ipeachment is recognizing reality, unless you can give me 15 senate dems who will vote to convict. Otherwise it is a pipe dream. But boehners lawsuit idea is good, since we can win in the courts. And if obama defies the court as well as congress, the case for impeachment may become solid enough that even dems will support it.
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The system is broken. It should be clear to everyone. The Democrats prove that there are no effective restraints on the presidency unless impeachment is wielded. When Republicans call it 'political suicide' and openly denounce anyone who says the word out loud, then the president can do whatever he wants. Ben Franklin correctly feared that the humans would lose the republic so beautifully designed that summer. It lasted as long as it did because so many presidents had the character to obey the Constitution. Now we have a man in the office who embodies the superman that Nietzsche predicted and no one is willing to use the weapon to stop him.
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Yes. Rule of law has been replaced by will to power. And behind Obama are millions who don't believe in right and wrong, only what you can and can't get away with.
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