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A Little Wisdom from Benjamin Franklin

June 10th, 2013 - 6:43 am

Few people, I think, would deny that extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measures.  Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War and, in my view, he was right to do so.  But what we have here is the fabrication of perpetual emergency in order to justify the unlimited and permanent expansion of of government power. The other word for that process is tyranny. It doesn’t happen all at once. But it’s happening pretty fast. Even the reporters at the Associated Press, whose data was sifted and snooped upon, ought to recognize that.

My friend ended with a famous quote from Benjamin Franklin that ought to be one everyone’s lips when they hear the president of the United States tell us that he must “inconvenience” them more or less forever by taking away their Constitutional rights in order to keep them safe. “Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,” said Franklin, “deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

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"Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

And we have neither.
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He is very transparent; in his hatred of American ideals, disdain for patriots, the military, the Constitution, and our allies. He is very transparent in his love of totalitarian ideals and those who would lay America low.

His vow to "fundamentally change" America is exceedingly transparent, one does not strive to "fundamentally change" something one loves and respects.

Hell, he was so transparent at Columbia that nobody even saw him!
44 weeks ago
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Any American who believes that it's the role of government to force you to buy government goods and services;

Any American who believes that the government has the right to label you a terrorist for exercising your freedom of religion as a Catholic, Orthodox Jew, Mormon or Evangelical;

Any American who believes that our borders are not ours to be protected, but rather, belong to the UN for "safekeeping" with all the efficacy that they achieve in that arena around the world;

Any American who believes that our bodies are there for naked scanning and groping at the whim of an $8 an hour airport government employee;

Any American who believes that a government should steadfastly refuse to call those who declare jihad against it their enemy, but swiftly and repeatedly apply the term to conservatives and faith based folks;

Any American who believes that our media should be a propaganda arm of one Party rule, burying the truth and giving us in its place "truthyness", what would be the truth...if leftists owned all the evidence;

Any American who believes that our accumulated savings should be seized for the purposes of "redistribution" against our will and without our consent;

Any American who believes that our education system should be rife with indoctrination to loathe our history, deride our Constitution and denigrate our sacrifices and accomplishments;

Any American who believes that our flag is the "wrong kind of patriotism"

Any American who believes that our Constitution is not one that should be a model for other countries;

Any American who believes that the EPA, NSA, FBI, IRS, the military and CIA should be used to search and seize our privacy at their whim;

Any American who believes that "public servant" means that the public are turned into servants of one Party;


Either do not know what it means to be a countryman, ....or...they do know and they wish to obliterate that meaning.
44 weeks ago
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For heavens sake, if you’re going to give up some of your liberty for some supposed security you should at least have some confidence that the person you are surrendering your freedom to can be trusted to actually give you some security in return. You know, so you don’t lose both. I think old Ben did say the likely outcome is that you lose both when you willingly surrender liberty for security. It just never works out, even assuming it would be a good bargain in the first place.
43 weeks ago
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Nearly 3000 years ago the Prophet Samuel told the people of Israel what a king would do.
1 Samuel 8

God has spoken through Samuel the prophet to tell the people of Israel that a king is going to be expensive - both financially and in terms of lost freedom. But you still want a king. Why doesn't the cost matter to you? Why, in spite of all these warnings straight from God, do you still want a king?

For some reason, it seems that the Israelites were oblivious to the price of having a king. God warned them that a king would be costly both in goods and in freedom. Government is a very expensive item: you must pay for the bureaucrats who are always very wasteful, and you must give up the freedom to make your own choices, which is also very wasteful of human initiative and talent.

God also pointed out that there is a point of no return on having a king. There will come a time, God says in vs. 18, when you will "cry out for relief from the king." But then it will be too late.

Except for the fact that it has been and is being repeated, the people still want a king. God gives them just what they deserve!

Approximately a century later Solomon said: "There is nothing new under the sun."

There is nothing new.
43 weeks ago
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"As my friend noted, Obama leans toward the security side of the equation, and he does so with, so to speak, a vengeance."

He leans toward security if by security you mean security for Islam to advance its agenda wherever it wants.

Obama certainly has no desire for the security of America, the American constitution and American values.
43 weeks ago
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Chief Justice Roberts' dots were connected and we got taxed. Time to connect some more dots and find where the call to CJ R came from.
How many Congessional dots have been connected........
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>...you can’t have 100 percent security and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We’re going to have to make some choices as a society.<

So far, the regime has made all the choices, and it has come down 100 % on the side of (it's) security.
44 weeks ago
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb challenging the vote. - B. Franklin
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"So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for every thing one has a mind to do." Benjamin Franklin
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God forbid it but America can survive another 9/11. But we cannot survive a government so totalitarian it has the capability of storing ALL, ALL our internet, financial, banking, phone, PERSONAL actions, and, and, everything else about us. If a political state has this capability one day it, inevitably use it against us. The old Lord Acton warning is still operative. If this is the Patriot Act, I'm doing a 180. Snowden is a Paul Revere not a Benedict Arnold.
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"Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War and, in my view, he was right to do so. "

We might debate, as gentlemen, whether or not he was right to do so. However, we cannot debate whether it was legal or not, because the Constitution specifically authorized him to do so.

That same Constitution makes very clear that the government is NOT authorized to engage in any searching of its citizens without probable cause, explicitly stated.

And no, the Founders did not anticipate the current terrorist situation. Neigther did they anticipate current technology.

What they DID anticipate was the tendnency of fallen men, givne power, to seek more and more and MORE power, and they did their best to limit men's abiltiyt take power that they should not have.

It's called the Rule of Law for a reason, and if we throw it overboard in the name of hallowed Safety (for the children, of course) we have thrown over our only safegarud against the worst danger of all - tyranny.

We are better off with a Boston Marathon bombing every week than to surrender our liberties to a self-empowering government.

The blind "Law and Order" types who decry any and all criticism of government, who support any program that claims to "keep us safe" are extremely dangerous.

This program is extremely dangerous. The Patriot Act is extremely dangerous.


And BOTH are illegal.


And not all the court decisions in the U.S.A. can change that.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

And we have neither.
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