“Just who the hell do you think you people are?” Nigel Farage poses an excellent question. We’re still waiting for the answer . . .
Looking around at the faces of his fellow ministers, he saw fear and anger: the whole European project seemed to be unraveling. Their response? Double down. Herman Van Rompuy, the Belgian one-worlder who is the first long-term president of the European Council, i.e., the EU, came to power last December asserting that the idea of national sovereignty is otiose, a bad holdover from a discredited past.
The problem is, Mr. Farage pointed out, that people all over Europe are waking up and saying “we don’t want this, we don’t want [the EU] flag, we don’t want the anthem, we don’t this political class, we want the whole thing consigned to the dust bin of history.”
And the response by the EU bureaucrats who run things? Well, Ireland was told that it would be inappropriate from them to have a general election; they had to agree on a budget first. Mr. Farage had the perfect response to this effrontery: “Just who the hell do you think you people are? You are very, very dangerous people indeed. Your obsession with creating this Euro state means that you are happy to destroy democracy.”
Mr. Farage got it in right: the political crisis facing Europe may be exacerbated by the domino-like collapse of the economies of the member states. But the critical issue is the future of democracy, i.e., the future of freedom. It is “more serious than economics,” Mr. Farage argued, “because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens.”
Europe is very, very lucky to have politicians like Nigel Farage. (Daniel Hannan is another such.) The question is: are they too late?
Roger, the unholy offspring of all these leftist metrosexuals, is the inevitable, metronational.
A metronational thinks there is a “wrong kind” of patriotism.
A metronational believes that money is the root of all evil and then pulls on those roots until the money tree dies.
A metronational fears his allies much more than his enemies, in fact, is much more inclined to try to speak with his enemies than his patriotic countrymen.
A metronational loves government, hates business. He wants to retire on full pension, at 50, somewhere in Italy, Spain, Greece, or Portugal. He only wants to play golf in Ireland.
A metronational gives great platitude. Thinks global warming is “settled” science and believes in every union on earth, except for traditional marriage.
A metronational believes that it is a grave sin to profile terrorists, but doing Hustler spreads on grandma at Thanksgiving is not worthy of privacy concerns.
He watches CNN and reads Reuters and agrees with the BBC.
Who are these people? Indeed.
cfbleachers you just described obummer ti a T.
“Metronationals” = “tranzi-progressives” (transnational progressives). They, along with their friends and allies, the jihadis, are the enemies of all sentient life on this planet.
Roger,
This is all too late, since even if economics does not condemn the EU, then demographics will.
By 2050, they will be part of the Ummah, not the EU.
…Maybe we should let them hold that bag of debt? Shaaria law ought to hold that civilization together, right?
“By 2050, they will be part of the Ummah, not the EU.”
Depends. On whether the Europeans attempt to deal with the problem, in the same way they usually deal with ethnic or religious questions – brutal violence. See European history: 30 years war – Balkan Ethnic Cleansing.
Roger,
The destruction of democracy in Europe is even worse and scarier than that. Remember, after all, the Euro Parliament is largely powerless; the unelected European Commission effectively rules by fiat. And what sort of fiat?
I give you the new EU law which outlaws “a wide range of activities that sometimes fall into the sphere of protected political speech, such as public insults of minority groups, public condoning of war crimes, and public dissemination of tracts, pictures, or other material containing expressions of racism of xenophobia”
There goes even the pretense of free speech in the EUSSR.
isn’t it $15909.00 not Fifteen million?
um, Roger, not to nitpick, but I think your math is off by a factor of 1,000. 15 million in debt per Greek sounds better, but my calculator says it is 15 thousand per Greek. Chances are the truth is more than 15K, but if they WERE able to run up 15M per person before the kaka hit the fan, I want to move there. My credit card company is all over me when I’m a day late on a 20 dollar payment.
But I still get your point.
Democracy has never functioned like a scalpel, but like a bludgeon, a crude veto exercised by the voters who are never very clear about the why, but focus on the who. The voters throw out a flock of politicians and hope their replacement will do better. It appears that the European voters can no longer exercise an effective veto.
Each Greek owes $15,909. Not $15,909,000. But you are right. They will never pay it back.
Having kept the UK out of the Euro (over Tony Blair’s objections), Gordon Brown is due some credit.
Mr. Kimball:
“Europe is very, very lucky to have politicians like Nigel Farage. (Daniel Hannan is another such.) The question is: are they too late?”
Sauve qui peut! To the lifeboats!
I hope that the Limeys have enough sense to scram out of the barn before the burning wreck collapses on top of them.
Now is the time to do it, before the Eurocrats decide that they need their own Armed Forces to make their whack notions reality at the point of a bayonet.
As long as there’s no dummy willing to fight and die for “Europe”, (as opposed to fighting and dying for “France”, “Germany”, or “The United Kingdom”), this was always a weird strange hobby of the Euro political back-benchers and “Also-Rans”.
Like some State U.’s Poli Sci Department gone horribly wrong and mutated by cosmic rays to a size beyond all reckoning.
But as the Honorable Farage points out…the game is now over.
Last chumps left on the tiers has to clean up the mess left behind!
The Limeys have sense no more, just look at the political scene. Conservatives are liberal (the anything-goes sort), liberals are socialist, and laborites are communist with a veil (or burka, whichever you prefer). UKIP is marginal, BNP is branded fascist, EDL racist; makes me wonder where those labels came from? There is absolutely no groundswell akin to the Tea Party to show at least voters´ activism. The demise of England as a great power is being completed (reading the 19c Bagehot now makes the impression of a fairytale, not tangible history). It does not matter whether the country is in or outside Europe. It is submerged and headed not for the rocks, but for the bottom. Yet in that it only seems to mirror the deliberate death trip of our civilization (white, Christian, once great).
By the way, unless the U.S. gets it right fast, no one will. And I have serious doubts about that.
“The demise of England as a great power is being completed (reading the 19c Bagehot now makes the impression of a fairytale, not tangible history). It does not matter whether the country is in or outside Europe. It is submerged and headed not for the rocks, but for the bottom.”
Bit of a let-down, that. For some strange reason I am rather an Anglophile.
“By the way, unless the U.S. gets it right fast, no one will. And I have serious doubts about that.”
I have a box-lunch in the lifeboat and my overtime sheet in a waterproof Ziploc bag…just in case, see?
One reason you see little evidence of a tea party-like movement in Britain is that so many of the potential members have given up, retired and moved to France. They are filling in villages in southern France that were abandoned or severely diminished by population shifts. There are now towns in south east France near Switzerland that are totally English speaking. It’s a nice area to live and they have voted with their feet, as Khrushchev used to say.
In today’s Britain any politician saying, in England, what Mr Farage said, in Brussels, would probably be issued with a Anti Social Behaviour Order (ASBO).
In the UK, speech of the looney left is robotically protected while other speech is robotically attacked. We have a weaker version of that in Canada and the US has contracted the same virus.
See how US progressives are talking vast right wing conspiracy simply because they believe that progressive ideas are self evidently true. According to this belief, any opposing ideas are self evidently wrong and sinister and must be suppressed for the greater good of the unwashed peasants.
Mr Farage is speaking in a forum which exists to give the EU a pretense of democracy by staging regular performances of Democracy Theatre. Posting on Youtube is the only way his speech can achieve relevance.
” … Now is the time to do it, before the Eurocrats decide that they need their own Armed Forces … there’s no dummy willing to fight and die for “Europe” ”
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Regarding the point about no EU military, I’d add “-yet”.
Do you suppose that’s one reason they invited all those non-assimilating Muslims in, and why they KEEP letting more and more immigrate? On top of that, the “leadership” labels any complaint about Muslims as “hate speech” and prosecutes that new-found crime with vigor.
Eventually, of course, there WILL be civil unrest triggered by one side or the other (either the “restive Muslims” seeking their rightful place as the “best of people”, or the had-enough-already common man who’s done with tolerating PC, multi-culti, national suicide); at that point the citizens of EUrope will be clamoring for sufficient troops and firepower to keep order in the streets, and there-you-go: an armed totalitarian state comprising all of what was formerly Western Civilization in Europe.
God help Europe; and God help the USA as well.
Correction: Every Greek does NOT owe $15 million. The author apparently needs a math refresher. If you divide $175 billion by 11 million (people), you get $15,000 per person. As a point of reference, the United States owes roughly $35,000 per person, or double that of Greece. In other words, the only fact conjured up by the author to support his assertion that Greece will never pay the money back is a fact that is wildly inaccurate.
Cancelling zeroes helps!
Is it possible that the $15,000,000 was a typo instead of a math mistake? Bean counters of the world unclench. You seem a little pathetic. OK, you’ve raised your hand and are now noticed by the teacher. Let’s get on with the point of the debate. I guess every society has to have nerds. They are useful, but sometimes so annoying in their hyper-attention to details.
Yeah, the audacity of those who pointed out that each Greek owed 15 thousand, rather than 15 million; how dare they?
Part of the problem of the er, overenthusiastic right or left is that they really don’t care about the figures, it’s the PRINCIPLE of the thing, whether is is $15, $150, $1500… etc.
A similar kind of “enthusiasm” led people to take out and others to finance the absurd mortgages of the housing boom years. They thought that they understood the principle that the real estate would always gain in value, so what did the nerdy details matter.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but to some extent, the European Union is America’s fault.
Europe’s elite has been following a Cargo-Cult-like star ever since the end of World War II. Desperate for a renewed sense of global importance, European politicians looked at the power that had pulled their chestnuts out of the fire, and drew all the wrong lessons. They decided to imitate the most visible feature of the United States — specifically, our quasi-federal structure — rather than ponder the role of our free market in bringing us to global hegemony.
In the late Forties and early Fifties, American Constitutional federalism was already becoming a de facto nullity. The Roosevelt Administration had effectively cartelized our commercial environment through taxation and regulation. Thus, the American example held a dual appeal for the Euro-elite: it offered a rationale for a huge bureaucracy and essentially unbounded power, while suggesting a structure that would preserve, at least in form, the national affinities of the peoples of the Old World. Washington’s meddling in European reconstruction through the Marshall Plan was another contributor, biasing the Europeans away from the laissez-faire of Ludwig Erhard and toward the social-fascism of Clement Attlee, Francisco Franco, and Charles de Gaulle.
Thus, today, the European Union offers its subjects all the worst features of the polity of the United States, without the immense economic momentum America enjoyed from 150 years of near-perfect freedom. The irony of Leftists’ suggesting that the U.S. should be more like Europe is hard to overstate.
Mr. Poretto:
This comment sounds something like a joke once told me by a Canadian Coast Guardsman, (of all things in the world). It went:
“Canada was supposed to be the perfect country, with British government, French culture and American technology.
Instead it ended up with French government, British technology and American culture.”
I guess that gets lotsa rueful yuks in Toronto…
It is very difficult to misunderstand Whaaaaaaaa, wrong.
Farage has been a household name here in Blighty for many years now. Unfortunately he is also something of a buffoon and embarrrassment. On the nationally televised BBC political debate show ‘Question Time’ this past Thursday he accused sixteen-year-old mothers of getting council houses. He was shot down by the well-informed audience and he duly blushed. I think most people here consider him an annoying right-wing demagogue. (See my PJM article about Glenn Beck, bless him, being wrong about ‘the Left’ exclusively hating Israel. Some prominent Tories like Michael Heseltine have been vicious about Israel, the USA and Zionism in recent years, ergo ‘conservative’ has a somewhat different connotation here than the perception of conservatism USA-style.) Farage’s UKIP Party pro-Israel group was quoted by ‘The Jewish Chronicle’ in February 2009 as being ‘stillborn.’ MEPs get a generous remuneration package, too.
Carol when you are awake could you please re-write your post. It reads like a telegram from fifty years ago.Some context would be nice.
It was sufficiently lucid and organized for me. Perhaps you need to read a bit more – I had all the context I needed.
Perhaps Bill if you read it again you may notice the incoherence but maybe you won’t.
I watched the programme. He wasn’t shot down at all. Council Houses was changed to Council Flats that’s all. And what evidence was shown even for that? Not one shred is the answer.
Farage is a national treasure. Period.
First of all, Carol, good hearing from you.
As for Nigel being considered a bit of a crank, I think it says a lot more about how far left Britain has gone.
Nigel (and his friend Mr. Daniel Hannan) would be mainstream conservatives here.
In fact, I hope that Glen Beck, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh give that speech the same attention that they gave to Hannan’s tearing Gordon Brown a new one back in March ’09.
As for your Tories, it seems that Mr. Cameron is an even worse Jew-hater than Mr. Brown, and Nick Clegg is positively a genocidal Jew-hating Nazi, as he demonstrated while at the EU.
I guess this frothing Jew-hatred is pretty universal in Britain, and Israel will have to treat the UK soon as a mortal enemy — with all that goes with it.
‘Remember, in europe, every ‘male’ must serve the military beginning at the age of 18 yrs for a period of 18 nonths’
One of the most hilarious and mis-informed comment’s i have ever read here.
My comment was to Inge no. 14
“Nick Clegg is positively a genocidal Jew-hating Nazi”
Disgusting. This has no place in a civilised conservative website. Retract it immediately.
Lefroy:
Google “Nick Clegg and Israel”, and you will see what a frothing Nazi he is. He bashes Israel for any and all attempts to defend itself against Islamo-Nazis sworn to its destruction.
Why would he do that? Because Clegg himself is a Nazi Jewhater. He may not call himself that; he may even be offended by it — but it’s the truth, whether he likes it or not.
Here’s one of the UK Telegraph columnists about Clegg:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100035649/nick-clegg%E2%80%99s-israel-bashing-is-sickening/
And who the f**k are you to demand I retract anything? I’m not in the UK, so he can’t use those abhorrent British libel laws against me.
Charming!
I too find Clegg’s views about the state of Israel – the only genuine democracy in the region, surrounded by grubs, theocrats and murderers who want to wipe it out – sanctimonious and contemptible.
But to describe him as a “frothing nazi”, a “genocidal Jew-hating Nazi” is just as bad if not worse – and the irony of your demonizing him in that fashion seems lost on you.
Buffoon? Doesn’t sound like one to me. In fact, he sounds like the one sane man in all the UK.
Something’s rotten in Denmark, and every other nation west of the Order. Is it wrong that I worry that if one of these nations decides to break free and just says “enough” that the bueaucrats may declare that troops be sent to quell such a nation? Sounds awfully familiar. Is European infighting going to be the trigger of yet a third World War.
West of the Oder, presumably. Rest assured it is not much better on the other bank, either, just lagging behind and catching up.
WW3 starting in Europe? No. Some places in Asia will take care of that. Europe will be subject to its own turmoil and internal strife, and there will be no reason to attack it from the outside. The Chinese are proverbially patient, and they must be looking on with glee. It will be up to them whether they will let the Russians pick up the pieces in Europe or not. The game is very complex.
Actually, the EU does not have an army. It makes their edicts look a bit ridiculous. I can’t see any one country, even Germany, deciding to hold a country against its wishes. All the EU can do is expel a member or fine them.
The original intent was that the EU would be the counter-power to the USA. The snobish european elite, just the same as they are here, wanted to do it on the cheap-defense had be be provided by those ugly americans, because it saved the european power brokeers lots of money.
Remember, in europe, every ‘male’ must serve the military beginning at the age of 18 yrs for a period of 18 nonths. During that time, they are being padi on avg about $300 per months,naturally, there is no interest in the overall military service vs a voluntary force, the best in the world, by the USA.
May thought, Europe following 2nd worldwar would be a force for good; I do not agree with that. Just as they hated the Jews before, and never stopped hating anything jewish. Temporary shame following Hitlers murdering of millions of jews kept a lid on the hate temporarily only to begin anew withing the current anti-semitic climate once again coming to the surface.
Being german, it is shameful to even consider having any affection for a once homec-ountry; being totally honest-the european union’s intent was to establish the 4th Reich, plain, and simple.
“in europe, every ‘male’ must serve the military beginning at the age of 18 yrs for a period of 18 nonths.”
No. Get your facts right first to engage in an argument.
After WW2, it was a good idea to consolidate Western Europe to better face the Soviet threat and prevent another war. Anti-Americanism was not the motivation.
As for the Jews, I do not remember any pogroms lately.
The UK is a member state of the EU – we gave up conscription in 1957!!!!
Please can we keep in mind that “Europe” and “European Union” are not the same thing.
“Just as they hated the Jews before and never stopped hating anything Jewish.” Inge, are you serious? Who are you? A member of the anti-German Germans who seem to think that only dead Germans are good Germans?(Bomber Harris do it again!) Or a you a fan of Maggie of England who predicted the Forth Reich in 1990( Germans have been our enemies since Roman times and that will never change). In case you are Jewish, then please explain me your worries.
inge,
Establishing the 4th Reich is exactly right. Jaques Delors was an elitist that thought the EU model to be “superior to that of the U.S.A.” and this whole EU enterprise has shown itself in ever fomenting anti-Semitism. You’re right; it never left after the war, it’s still there and is as strong as ever. Israel would do well to consider exactly who they are dealing with in the EU…a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I wonder how all the one-worlders will tackle the “dissenters” that will rise up against Islam in Western Europe. Hitler and Islam were one…just as the EU and Islam are one. It’s not about democracy; it’s about establishing the 4th Reich…INGE is correct.
If Inge is wrong…then why has the U.N. become a depository for anti-Semites cosying up to Islamic anti-Semites and fomenting hatred and animosity towards Israel at every possible opportunity and with increasing frequency? If we think they are singling out only Israel…we’re dead wrong…the U.S.A. is also included right along with Israel.
We better wise up and wake up…When a few Western European countries rise up to do battle against Islam…they’re may need our support.
ah, p’tain, c’est un coup des Arabes !
Thanks to the many commenters, and other friends, who pointed out my abundance of zeros. Millions. Billions. Trillions. I find myself hard pressed to keep track these days.
Mr. Kimball:
I’m feelin’ ya, brother!
It’s the danged newfangled “O”rithmetic…got me buggin’.
WWII was not merely the sunset of european power it was also an abject failure and questioned the very fitnes to rule of european elites: in Germany they had contributed to the Holocaust, in France they had led the country to an abject defeat and UK’s war was a long string of failures in every order: from Singapore to the inability of designing a hamf decent tank to the fact that in May 1945 the Spitfires still had no ammo counter something who had been demanded by the pilots since 1940 (many German planes escaped destruction because Spitfire pilots didn’t knew if they still had ammo and thus evaded combat). So after their WWW abject failure in morality and ability to rule the european elites feared to be questioned by their populace (let’s remind that eraly 1944, that is before D-DAY, the main worry of the future founder of what would become France’s most influential newspaper was neither the Germans or a possible Soviet occupation but how to prevent the contagion of the American model to France
Add to this the resentment for having been saved and for having been fed after WWII and for the loss of the colonies thus ending Europe’ leading role into world affairs.
So Europe was a way for on one side try to recover Europe’s leading role (that means defeating the champion) and also to present it in front of their public opinions as an entity hostile to the United States and them as an ennemy
JFM
“in France they had led the country to an abject defeat”
what abject defeat that the Brits didn’t had too ?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9a1td_la-bataille-de-france-1940-1-3_webcam (3 videos)
oh, and BTW if the Brits hadn’t betrayed us, (Dunkirk, Mers el Kebir…) if they weren’t so welcomed in north Africa, may-be they were for sumthin, if they hadn’t fired at the back of more than a thousand of our crewmen in Mers el Kebir, probably that Darlan would have made of Alger the capital of free France, so, since this event, the French there understood that our supposed alliees were our true enemis, and therefore they weren’t welcome anymore, that’s also why Brit ships had to show american flags if they wanted to reach the coast.
please read this blog from “Mers el Kebir family members” (for english, click on the english flag to get in)
you’ll see that Churchill’s honnor isn’t so right place as some people want us to believe
http://www.amedenosmarins.fr/ext/http://www.ledrame-merselkebir.fr/
and that’s funny, that new documents are enlightening the “histoire des vainqueurs”:
“Author and historian Charles Williams says that newly discovered “top secret” documents in the British national archives show that Petain proposed to leave Vichy and sign a peace agreement with the free French government based in Algiers.”
http://www.expatica.com/de/news/local_news/petain-tried-surrendering-to-britain-claim-20451_20436.html
“So Europe was a way for on one side try to recover Europe’s leading role”
umm, not quite, Germany’s leading role !
http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-nazis-planned-eu-style-fourth-reich.html
“how to prevent the contagion of the American model to France”
LMAO, I’m glad that we resisted to Coca-Cola, to Father Christmas, to hamburgers, fried chickens, freedom fried…
Did you notice that 1) I said nothing against the French soldier or the basic French citizen. Only against the “dirigeants de rencontre”. Why are you on their side?
2) I spent far more space on the failure of Great Britain than on France’s. If you prefer, the French didn’t have a channel to hide behind.
3) It looks like you are proud of French resistance to America. I were you I would look for motives to be proud of resistance to bad guys like say Nazi Germany. That and only that would be worthy to be admired.
4) Had the British done what you say you now would be speaking Germaan. France couldn’t be saved.
6) France betrayed both Czechoslovakia and Poland rememeber?
That little POS (Hubert Beuve Mery who was so concerned about the American model all while the swastika soiled Paris sky (hope you like my poetry) wasn’t thinking in hamburgers and sitcoms. Waht hje wanted to presee was a model where Marie Claudes of France did the dying in the Resistance or in the FFL and then after that war the people in the Beuve Mery circle would step from under the stones they had been hiding under and share the spoils, a model where Marie Claude’s hard earned money is stolen for making millionaires of a parasitic class of talentless movie directors whose movies wouldn’t make a cent, a model where something (the European Constitution) can be soundly rejected by the people and still be implemented without causing a revolution and thhose who had trampled democracy going “a la lanterne”, a model where the Marie Claudes of France just like serfs have to kneel in front of their “betters” even when they lead the country to defeat, even when they aren’t better than the Marie Claudes.
America isn’t perfect, there are rich and poor but there are no kneeling people. That, not hamburger, is what Beuve Mery, was mortally afraif of, athat is what he thunk was worse than Nazi occupation and if he didn’t think that it looked awfully like he did.
Did you notice that 1) I said nothing against the French soldier or the basic French citizen. Only against the “dirigeants de rencontre”. Why are you on their side?
on their side ? Not particularly, I’m on the french side of the internet screen, that shows always the same ol refrain : the French surrendered
2) I spent far more space on the failure of Great Britain than on France’s. If you prefer, the French didn’t have a channel to hide behind.
that’s not a old habit !
3) It looks like you are proud of French resistance to America. I were you I would look for motives to be proud of resistance to bad guys like say Nazi Germany. That and only that would be worthy to be admired.
hmm, the historical context isn’t made of black or white images for the good and the bad players, it’s much more complicated than that, the whole EUrope alliances, counter-alliances, lobbies… rhe Lebensraum for the main players… the traditional spaces based on rivers borders and their attribuations…attentists, anonymes, etc… were part of the stakes, depended if you had trumps or not, then the aftermaths would have written the victory in your way, or in another way.
Though isn’t it funny that the 3 big, Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin were good ol chaps, and that the fate of EUrope was already decided, even before that America entered into the conflict, Stalin at East, Roosevelt at west !!! and the Poles that wanted to chose west, were “niqués”
4) Had the British done what you say you now would be speaking Germaan. France couldn’t be saved.
They did, or rather their hero Churchill ordered that !, no, we wouldn’t talk german, but RUSSIAN ; you aren’t a good reader of facts that aren’t printed in your language !
6) France betrayed both Czechoslovakia and Poland rememeber?
and who’s was leading the diplomacy then ? Chamberlain, the brits, that already allowed Germany to rearm in 1935 !
Also it is not referring to the Polish manoeuvers to grap some Czech land ! and to their prime to calculate what better alliances would serve Poland the best, as that one of 1934 with Germany…
That little POS (Hubert Beuve Mery who was so concerned about the American model all while the swastika soiled Paris sky (hope you like my poetry)
hmmm, I would rather label that as “polemic”
wasn’t thinking in hamburgers and sitcoms. Waht hje wanted to presee was a model where Marie Claudes of France did the dying in the Resistance or in the FFL and then after that war the people in the Beuve Mery circle would step from under the stones they had been hiding under and share the spoils, a model where Marie Claude’s hard earned money is stolen for making millionaires of a parasitic class of talentless movie directors whose movies wouldn’t make a cent, a model where something (the European Constitution) can be soundly rejected by the people and still be implemented without causing a revolution and thhose who had trampled democracy going “a la lanterne”, a model where the Marie Claudes of France just like serfs have to kneel in front of their “betters” even when they lead the country to defeat, even when they aren’t better than the Marie Claudes.
I think you tried to make a “frogs delicateessen specialitat”, your recept is too lyrical to be practical, you mixed all the ingredients. We’re the ones that voice in EU aeropage of apparatchiks, see last summer how our relations with Brussels were harsh !
When you’ll go to Paris, don’t forget to visit:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703632304575451520397214294.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTSecondBucket
America isn’t perfect, there are rich and poor but there are no kneeling people. That, not hamburger, is what Beuve Mery, was mortally afraif of, athat is what he thunk was worse than Nazi occupation and if he didn’t think that it looked awfully like he did.
uh those that voted for Obama ? how many in percentage again? more than our socialists got in our last presidential elections.
As my Irish uncle once said; “when Davalera was president of Ireland, we were poor but we owned our own land; now we are wealthy and no longer own our country”. The Irish were sucked into the European sucker’s game and are now paying the penalty.
Or, as the Irish Times put it, is this what the men of 1916 died for?
Help me out here , if I send this article to the family libs I’d like to “help out” , they would point to the success of the northern socialist states like Finland, Norway , etc.. look how wonderfully they are doing, they are doing it right.
Are they? See the muzzies in their cities? See the violence and rape? The no-go zones?
Oh, and when the oil money runs out, just where are they getting their finance from? Herring? Reindeer? Saabs and Konigseggs?
The northern socialists run on OPM – only instead of other people’s money, it’s found treasure. When it’s gone, it’s gone – a lot like the middle east. Now the same will happens to everybody’s oil eventually (I’m a peak oil denier) – it’s just that we don’t try to placate our citizens by buying panem et circensi (sp) with oil money. We just print it.
First off, it’s the Norwegians that have the oil. Finland, Sweden and Denmark import theirs. As to Norway, they’ve planned and prepared well for the times the oil-wells run out. If I were you, I’d educate myself better on the industries of Scandinavia (and Finland) prior to attempting sarcasm.
As to ‘muzzies,’ one Rosengård in Sweden or Grönland in Norway (Finland does not yet posses a ´no-go´ zone) can’t be compared to our Muslim terrorist or crime problem. Wanna swap statistics? Count the ‘no-go’ zones in America?
The real unemployment percent in Finland is around 7, ours is …?
Quite right. All the wingnuts here need only look at Scandinavia to see what socialism can accomplish. But no, they will continue to delude themselves that laissez-faire capitalism isn’t pure exploitation of nature and mankind alike.
For an inside look at what destroyed European democracy, you could do worse than watch a few episodes of “Yes Minister”, a British TV series filmed in the early 1980′s a decade or so before cell phones and the internet. The style in which political decisions were made has since become even more anti-democratic, but the basic political dynamic was already well established back then.
After the EU collapses Daniel Hannan can move to Texas. We’ll need a new Senator in 2012 and he fits the bill. We’ll squeeze out our last drop of Hope and Change protocol to fake his citizenship.
Sleepwalking through history. Cajoled, bribed with other peoples’ money by persons elected OR appointed by the “people” to defend their interests.
This is how it’s done. Get people to believe THEY benefit from theft of their and their fellow citizens’labour and hopes. Many do until it comes time to pay the bills. Axiom: nothing is for nothing. There is no free lunch. WHO CARES as long as others must pay the bills.
Europe has come to that time : to pay the bill. And apparent the bill is not only economic, but also political. The loss of sovereignty. And WHAT is sovereignty? Dictionary definition: supreme and INDEPENDENT power. Birthright of free citizens sold for a pittance / mess of pottage.
Today Europe Tomorrow the World. As in NEW WORLD ORDER / NEW REICH. Managed and officiated by UNACCOUNTABLE POWER HOLDERS.”For the good of the People” of course. Sound familiar ?
Have enough contempt for the “people” and enough of them will play your game, hands out,sneering at those who passively accept the theft of their labours and hopes. Even those who should know better. What do they think “child benefit” is? UNTIL SOMETHING, inevitable effects of sleepwalking become evident. They wake, dazed, stunned and don’t know what to do.
It’s not in the sleepwalkers’ nature to take to the barricades. So are they doomed to accept what their best and brightest have planned and engineered WITH THEIR ACTIVE cooperation. Do people really care about freedom. It’s a word, like so many others. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
It was not just the Irish who ignored warnings and ran down the road of greed over caution.
The EU was an enity built to endorse greed as the prime movitator for it being. That inself, is a warning signal screaming one to stay away from it.
Personally, I feel if the EU is not disbanded and tossed to the dust bin of history, everyone, not just Greece, will not be paying back everyone.
“In Berlin, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel told business leaders that the single currency would ride out the storm. “I’m more confident than (I was) this spring that the European Union will emerge strengthened from the current challenges,” she said, referring to a €110bn bailout in May of Greece by the EU and IMF.”
Compared with Nigel, Angela seems hardly Conservative. Indeed, in Germany she is now perceived as a “centrist,” which means she’ll “dialogue” and “compromise” with the best of them.
The EU is only the first step toward “one world government.” Sweeping all the political rhetoric aside, there is one truth about “one world:” A world with one universal government is a world without hope. In such a world, when you have dictators over you, you have nowhere to go to escape. This is what the one-worlders are giving us. And I’m happy to see that the world is waking up and giving a resounding NO!
Is it waking up???? Are people seeing that being a German or French or British is more important. I toured through Europe just as the ‘Euro’ was getting started. The ‘people’ did NOT like it.It was only the politicians that liked it. It was great to see the different cultures and to handle different monies. AHHH,I wish they did not have a combined Europe as the different peoples are what made it great.I sincerely hope it’s not too late.
Did it occur to you that 3 months before the last president Left office the stock market crashed putting millions of work and putting some businesses out of business don’t you thing that would make a difference in money collected in taxes? And would it have been necessary for president Obama to spend billions to bail out those dogs on wall street after 8 year rule of a fool.
The functional illiteracy of the Petulant Left exposed.
You’re right, the government-mandated subprime mortgage phenomenon had nothing to do with it at all. It was George Bush!!!1111!!!11
And this relates to the subject how? It’s been a couple of years since Bush left office. Obama and the Left have had plenty of time to implement their own bad policies.
Please, stop living in the past!
In January, we have a divided power base in government again. This will result in some degree of bureaucratic gridlock. However, this is good. I believe this to be one of the foundational checks and balances that the founding fathers placed into the US system of government. Instead of decrying gridlock, we should celebrate it!
Eric R pointed out the real danger that will have destroyed Europe by 2050. Gone will be Christianity,Western civilization and freedom. The debt is nothing compared to that.
Yes, that is what statistics and predictions show; however, the predictions totally ignore the native populations and their will. It’s not like the citizens of Europe want to import the Muslims to ruin their countries. (In addition, I’m not certain which one goes first, Israel or Europe.)
I seriously doubt most Europeans are going to roll over and let the Muslims take over. The parties opposing the Muslim invasion are growing and winning from Norway to Italy. Yes, the u-turn is going to be tough, but it’s happening.
The Swiss, for example, are voting tomorrow to start deporting criminal foreigners – 70% of their prison population.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6265048,00.html
Nobody wants to see a Muslim-run Russia in 30 years (a forecast) with thousands of nuclear weapons. You think that’s going to come to pass?
I hope it’s not thirty years because I will still be around. I would really love to help but without borders,the people have nothing to protect.That’s what is happening in America.The left like Obama and MOST politicians dont want to control the border because it is something the people will feel strongly about.Without a strong border,as in California,people will accept others walking the streets and collecting payouts.
IT”S ALL PART OF THE PLAN.
In WW2 the troops in Europe defended borders.No borders,No defence.
The most recent study was conducted by the Finnish Defense Ministry:
http://www.defmin.fi/files/1298/Russia_of_Challenges_nettiversio.pdf
“Islam and Muslims in Russia pose a serious challenge to Russia’s internal stability and domestic policy. After the collapse of the Soviet Union the self-esteem and sense of identity of Russia’s 20 million Muslims have been bolstered.
“In 1991 there were approximately 300 mosques in Russia; the present number approaches 8,000. Half of the new mosques have been built with foreign financing, mainly from Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia. In 1991 there were no Islamic schools in the Russian Federation.
“Paul Goble, an expert of Islam and the Muslim population in Russia, estimates that the majority of Russian military recruits will be Muslims in 2015. If no changes occur, within three decades the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation will be Muslims.”
Al Jazeera’s take: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2007/01/2008525144630794963.html
Muslim Demographics : absolutely shocking statistics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMaLfStmlec&feature=player_embedded#!
Sleep well.
Relax, if that came to pass, their first order of business would be to attack Israel, which would be their undoing. God will deliver Israel, just as Ezekiel prophesied.
You are so right! I don’t think it will take that long either. The Iranians have been saying for…more than a decade?…that when they get the bomb they’re just glad most of the Jews are in israel in one place so they don’t have to use so many. I’ve been exploring for some time whether I’m going to miss all the alahu akbar we’ve been sharing. Maybe. Maybe not. It does make me sad at heart to think we’ll be missing all their daily adventures spreading peace. In any case, if a glass factory opens in the mideast it will be payback time for regimes all over the world because they can nuke for free without bearing any responsibility. “The Iranians did it!” will be the typical answer as China, Russis, Pakistan, India, and the Norks all join in the free-for-all. Israeli may shine, or at least glow, but the rest will actually be in the dustbin of history.
Doing the same calculation for the US:
Current Debt: 13.78 Trillion
Current Population: 310 Million
Debt per person: $44,200
But since only people of working age pay taxes, and only half of *them* have to, the people at usdebtclock.org puts the debt at
$125,000 per US taxpayer.
Ah, debt, the gift that keeps on giving (to others).
No one knows when the house of cards will fall down, but there is a growing sense that it may happen sooner rather than later. As a result, nebulous anxiety is growing and “canary in the coal mine” alarms are falling on receptive ears. Everyone wants to know what the future holds so that they can determine if their fears are justified or if its all much ado about nothing. OK, there isn’t enough money in Europe to prevent the default of the PIIGS. Unless the US bails out the EU banks once again, the EURO is dead. Get out of EUROs now (if you haven’t already) and prepare for the return of national currencies and floating exchange rates.
Is it too late? I’m afraid it appears to be. For the EU.
Is it too late for the United States? Possibly not.
The US conservatives can get behind the strongest candidate and continue the turnaround begun in 2012. They will only accomplish it by working together in a primary system designed to pit them against each other. I hope they do.
After WWII, Europe was completely traumatized. Even the victors. After the two most destructive wars in history, the people made the totally rational decistion that anything was better than that. Russia, of course, was an exception, because it was a hard-core communist state led by an insane person.
That feeling has dominated Europe for 65 years. That is why they turned to Socialism and what let the one-world aristocrats sieze power.
Now, the game has changed for two reasons. The first is Muslim immigration, which as Steyn points out, is poised to demographically conquer the continent. The second is that socialism is now mature in Europe and the somnabulent population is beginning to realize the price of the fairy tale of unlimited benefits in a univese of limitations.
But Europeans are descended from people who waged war for at least 7 millenia. Their genes are warrior genes. Cultural evolution trumped that starting in 1945, but you can’t breed out genetics in three generations.
It has been inevitable for 20 years that Europeans would rise up against Islam. Steyn thinks it’s too late. He’s a smart guy, but I’m betting on genes, not demographics.
And now it is inevitable that Germany, the UK, and probably other countries that haven’t totally succumbed to sloth will rise up against funding other country’s retirements at age 50.
Europe is going to become very dangerous again very soon.
I have been in Europe a few months ago and the direct observation of the situation seems to confirm that there are serious reasons for worrying about the deficits and the debts: the quality of life of common people seems to have grossly deteriorated in comparison to 10-15 years ago, the number of immigrants – invaders is appalling, and ideologies dominate the debate.
The best that we can do “for” Europe is turning America away from the nightmare of marxist policies, reject Obama in 2012, and work for a strong America.
If we can save ourselves from the deadly poison mix of elitist ideology AND muslim money buying our Country, Europe could perhaps come back to (some form of) sanity.
Looking back over 200+ years of European history, I don’t see where the Continentals have ever been particularly strongly attached to the ideals of democracy. Why should they be now? It’s just not in their culture.
Therein lies the conflict with Britain, which seems to take democratic institutions and self determination much more seriously and has benefitted accordingly.
Farage is correct, it was an error for the UK to get involved in the EU. I just hope London has plans already drawn up to deal with what’s coming.
I don’t see where the Continentals have ever been particularly strongly attached to the ideals of democracy”. May I refer to the “Paulskirchen Verfassung of 1849. The wording of this would-be constitution for a united Germany is astonishing similar to our present constitution, the Grundgesetz of 1949.
“There lies the conflict with Britain, which seems to take democratic institutions much more seriously”. Yes, the fate of Ireland, India and various other countries demonstrates how serious the Brits took democracy in countries occupied by them,sorry, I forgot that Britain never occupied a country, they only made “territories fit for democracy”. It was an error for the UK to get involved in the EU”. It was rather an error for continental Europe, as you like to call Europe, to allow Britain to join the EU. Without Britain, no toxic Anglo-American financial system, no banks which had/have to be bailed out, less difficulties with the Euro. Our old-fashioned financial system worked far better. But Germans wanted the Brits to join the EU(the French did not). After all, we thought, Brits are Europeans too. Sometimes I think we have been very wrong.
Well Marianne, I’m with you. We shouldn’t have joined and we should leave now. We don’t seem to have any politicians prepared to arrange this for us – perhaps the Franco-German alliance could expel us?
Oh yes – and no more French wars for us. Or American ones.
I would say no more British wars for America. No more bailing out of the incompetent, of the peole whose pilots didn’t report they had seen a japanese fleet but instead went to have tea. Oh, and Japan’s fight was with the British not with the Americans. The goal of the Pearl Harbor attack was to prevent the American fleet from helping the British ie had it been clear America wouldn’t move a finger several hundreds of thousands American lives would have been spared
I forgot. WWI (and still less WWII) was not a French war: England has not survived for so long by looking the other side while a continental nation built a fleet able to challenge the Royal Navy (WWI) or by alloowing a continental power to dominate Europe and thus get the resources to build a fleet three times its own (WWI).
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Nigel Farage MEP leads the United Kingdom Independence Party
http://www.ukip.org/
You can find out more about Nigel Farage, who is a friend of Daniel Hannan, on the following Youtube channels :
Ukipwebmaster
Ukipmeps
Ukipmedia
May I suggest, with all due respect, that someone who had not heard of the UKIP before this week should be more careful when commenting on European politics?
Being careful means avoiding remarks such as this:
remember the “Irish tiger”? Turns out it was an inflatable pussy cat: pumped full of gas by artificially low interest rates underwritten by the EU.
[A] The Irish “pussy cat” was inflated not nearly as much by low interest rates as by AMERICAN investment: American investors wanted to have a presence in the Eurozone, preferably in a country which is English-speaking and fast-growing … and Ireland was fast-growing because of American investment.
[B] The reason Irish interest rates were “artificially low” was that Ireland joined the Eurozone. They should not have, I agree on that; but why did they join? they joined because, without joining, they would not get nearly as much American investment!
In short, Ireland is not Greece: the Irish government did not borrow recklessly from French and German banks; no, their fault was to let the Irish people to borrow recklessly, mostly from American investors.
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/the-day-ireland-was-the-envy-of-europe-2438222.html
The European Union was NEVER a United States of European. There is no such citizen as a European – only Brits, Frenchmen, Dutch, Italians, Greeks, Portuguese, Germans et al.
The current situation is a fitting end to the moribund EU.
Yes, there are people who feel very European – occasionally. However, only when we meet in the US, China, Australia or elsewhere. Then we feel very European.
The EU should never be a construction similar to the US. De Gaulle and Adenauer suggested a Europe of “Vaterländer”, that means that every single country should focus on its own culture and especially language(like Switzerland). Europe as a whole should give more weight to each country. Perhaps I can explain it as follows: Germany was a country with many länder and free cities. All of them have been very proud of their independence. And all countries around us have been very satisfied with that situation. One former President of Germany expressed it the following way: Don’t let us be so weak again that other countries want to invade us, but we should not be so strong that other countries fear us. To sum up: Being free and independent is only a good idea when you can defend you independence and your interests. The tiny countries of Europe are very helpless against large countries like the US, China, India and even Brazil. Only together we have the power to defend our interests. By the way, in Germany we too have large and small länders, rich and poor ones. The system functions. Why should Europe not function? However, in the early 199os, European leader seemed to wish a system similar to that of the US: One language(English), a free or better uncontrolled marketand people as consumers. In the case of Germany, there was only money left for share-holders and managers but never for workers and employees. On the other side, when markets fail we have to clear up the mess. The profit is taken away by those who caused the mess. Do free countries look like that? And while we pay for Europe, rich people of those (southern) countries we help, try to take over our companies. Our government smiles and says that business would be like that. For a high percentage of Germans this behaviour is shameless and even carries elements of robbery. That is why we need a reform for the people and not for greedy elites.
Articulate jump-out-of-my-chair impassioned.
The Red Army song at the end is a good touch.
If you question is, is it too late for a peaceful solution the answer is yes, if you question is, is it too late for Europe to survive as a non Moslem nation with varying degrees of freedom the answer is no. I notice that almost all of the people posting are taking the attitude that the ordinary people are going to peacefully accept the destruction of their culture. History says that this is highly unlikely, and with the EDL, LDF and other groups forming massive violent conflict between the Moslem invaders and the ordinary Europeans is more likely every day. The question is who will win, and that will depend on how many politicians and members of the military decide they are citizens of the various nations rather then socialist robots.
I hear ya, Richard. We heard the same urgent cries in Europe for getting rid of the Jewish ‘invaders’ eighty years ago, and look what those Europeans went and did, murdered every last one of ‘em. No reason why they won’t try it again.
No equivalency there. The Jews were not demanding imposition of “Jewish law”, weren’t creating no-go zones, and they certainly weren’t holding mass demonstrations boasting of their intent to subjugate the indigenous population. Pogroms against the Jews were based on irrational bigotry, whereas today’s Muslim minority proudly broadcasts what the score is going to be when they are the minority no longer. To even imply that Europeans who have become concerned about their Muslim immigrant communities are somehow just like the Nazis is insulting.
They are not too late. Why? Because of people, such as myself, who see alternatives to what the world is saddled with. A revamped
Commonwealth, alongside other amalgams to replace the IMF, the World Bank, the EU, NATO, and the UN.
There are alternatives to the status quo, and frankly dealing with balance sheets is a start.
Defaulting isn’t the end of the world. The U.S. is going to default. Guaranteed. What will happen? What always happens. What has happened innumerable times in world history. Within a relatively short timespan after the default and the reorganization new creditors will appear. Rentiers never go away.
If European genes are warrior genes how come they’re wimping out vis a vis the muzzies?
I wish they had warrior genes, I just don’t see it (or them).
It’s because those warrior genes were last used to exterminate 1.5 million children in the Holocaust and they still needed America to save them from the Russians, so at the moment the European warriors are rightfully ashamed. The warriors were real good at shooting women and children into pits, but fled like cowards when the Soviets actually fought back.
Now you’re confusing the politicians with the population; moreover, these Muslim decisions are made in the EU, where the people have no say.
Th people of different European countries will fight the Muslim invasion. How bloody it will be depends on what can be achieved within the political system.
We – America – are currently “wimping out vis a vis the muzzies.” How about that?
This is where we need a new word for those type of “immigrants”.
My definition of an immigrant is a person who moves to a country with the intention of settling there as a vital part of that country’s community. This means that an immigrant assimilates into the culture of the host country.
What many Muslims do is not assimilation. They move into a country in order to change that country and its culture. Largely, they resist assimilation as much as humanly possible. So what should we call this person? Intruder? Advance guard? Missionary? Colonist? Invader? Agent provocateur? None of these terms really seem appropriate.
I would like to propose the term “zenomigrant”. An zenomigrant is a migrant who insists on remolding the host country to reflect his/her “foreign” culture and values instead of assimilating.
True immigrants will strengthen a country by bringing fresh talent, ideas and enthusiasm with them. I strongly encourage and support this type of immigration. However, “zenomigrants” should be viewed with caution, particularly regarding issues of loyalty.
To our fellow thinkers across the pond.
If you want to see and hear more about the UK equivalent of the ‘Tea Party’ (UKIP) go here.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ukipwebmaster#grid/uploads
Cheers!
When you Europeans take out the trash [THE EURO],its governing body, please all so take out the UN with the ONE STATE IDEA to the trash can all so! As long as men live there will be those men with a spark of freedom in their hearts “GOD”, they will seek freedom and democracy. Not Sharia Law, Christian Law and Jewish Law, because “GOD” gave us the freedom to choose. Man is not suppose to serve man but serve the “HOLY ONE” in all things and you have to be a free person to worship “GOD” anyway you choose!!!!
Questions.
1. What is meant in this situation by “democracy”? European countries have political systems different from the US, which is a Constitutional Republic documenting the RIGHTS of individual citizens and LIMITS to powers of government. Mr. Farage is Representative of a parliamentary monarchy, the United Kingdom. Not for nothing is it called a kindgom. France and Germany have other constitutional bases.
BUT they throw around that word democracy. As did ancient Greeks of a state based on an underclass of slaves to support the “citizens” of Greece, i.e. the aristos and intellectuals. Is this situation once again what goes around comes around? OR “beware Greeks even when bearing gifts”?
2.HOW did those nations of small populations, e.g.. Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Belgium manage to run up such horrendous debt as members of administration EU based in Brussela and Strasbourg. With oversight duties. Did none of the EU offices keep tabs / audit OVERSEE the burgeoning debt of these small nations with few natural, other than the intelligence of their populations, resources
I would have supposed the administrators / managers responsible, not remiss /negligent as is the US Congress/Executive in auditing the economic bases: revenue and expenses, of their member nations. Who one must suppose knew a pig in a poke and thought why not. Get what you can while you can?
These administrators, e.g the present President of the EU (how did he become President ?) so quick to blame the nations in what they call the European Union. Union? How? As in United Nations, in the seed one of the most incompetent and corrupt unions ever devised to steal rights and movement from the people who pay the bills for the royal privileges of the administrators?
The UN devised at the end of WW II by FDR the driving force, AFTER agreeing to the gift of Eastern Europe and Germany to the prison state of Joseph Stalin’s USSR. ALL “for the good of the people”. As in big con and never give a sucker an even break,
3.And NOW these political gangsters and their “made (MAD?) men and soldiers in the USA, who call themselves democrats / liberals — in the organised gangs they name political parties of all colours — FORCE the patterns of the UN and EU and their poisons on the people of the Constitutional Republic of the USA. The “commoners” they so deride and despise. FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE, even that part of the People which does not suffer the cancer of parasitism.
Note their virulent, constant,attacks on Sarah Palin, who DARED to challenge their view of the nation and its people in the real world.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/11/time-that-is-given-us.html#more
Below is the speech that was given during the event by Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff:
“A milestone in this ominous totalitarian trend will be reached tomorrow, 28 November 2010, when the member states of the European Union are required to implement an innocuous-sounding legal provision known as the “Framework decision on combating racism and xenophobia”, or, more fully, the “Council Framework Decision 2008/913/JHA of 28 November 2008 on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law.”
http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/combating_discrimination/l33178_en.htm
“According to the final article of the Framework Decision, “Member States shall take the necessary measures to comply with the provisions of this Framework Decision by 28 November 2010.” [snip]
“Even worse, a complaint made by a member state does not have to be “dependent on a report or an accusation made by a victim of the conduct”, nor does the alleged offender have to be “physically present in its territory”.
“In other words, if the dhimmi Austrian government objects to a cartoon published by Kurt Westergaard here in Denmark, Mr. Westergaard may be extradited by the Austrian Ministry of Justice to answer to hate speech charges in Austria. The European Arrest Warrant guarantees that the Danish government cannot legally interfere with such an extradition, and the 800-strong “European Gendarmerie Force” would be available to fetch Mr. Westergaard out of his bed and bring him to Vienna — with impunity. … [snip]
“We are going to reclaim our continent and our nations. We will take our countries back from those thieves who sneaked them away from us while were lulled into somnolence by our wealth and our pleasant diversions.
This will not be an easy task. Our path will be strewn with obstacles and great dangers. But we must travel it nonetheless, because if we do not, European civilization — the heart of Western Civilization — will be destroyed.”
Read it all.
We here you across the other side of the Pond here in the UK. The problem is the UK PEOPLE never wanted the EUSSR in its current incarnation. The POLITICIANS do though! n 1975 we voted for a FEEE TRADE area NOT A UNITED STATES OF europe. It is a creeping totalitarium entity that is not federal but a centralist entity. To quote a famous eurosceptic Enoch Powell ‘ There can never be a european democracy because there is no Demos and therefore there can be no Kratos ( no united people = no legitame rule)
That is why we were denied a vote on the Lisbon Treaty. Because we would have said NO. They had to ask the the Irish TWICE on two separate treaties to get the “right” answer
You Americans need to understand that we do not want it and never have. It is against our common law constitution enshrined in Magna Carta and the 1689 Bill of Rights that “no foregn Prince Prelate or Pontenate shall have jurisdiction over these lands and this Bill is for ever more”. Our politicians are traitors and all should have their heads on spikes in The Tower( prior to being hung drawn and quartered) I ain’t joking. That is the depth of feeling in the UK.
It is driven for the benefit of the Eurocracy elite and there new imperium from Cork to the Caucasus and Scicily to the Shetlands.
Apologies for the spelling mistakes
Meant to say Free Trade not Feee,legitimate hear and their etc
Apart from that I think you get the gist.
Also I agree with a lot of your posters(especially Pro Reason). Europe is going to get very ugly.
For the US beware NAFTA… its only the start of your journey!!!
What a great man! Unfortunatley politicains like him don’t get more than 3% of the votes in the elections in Poland
Another limey here, it’s encouraging to here our problems get raised over in the US. Eurosceptics are not allowed on TV in the UK unless vastly outnumbered – which is odd when you consider that pretty much every poll shows over 50% support for withdrawal from the EU.
If you want to see how bad things are you should search the EUreferendum site for details of the European Wide arrest warrant. They have thown Habeus corpus out the window and now allow arrest without charge accross the EU, it is even possible to be arrested in England for something that is not a crime in the UK as long as it is a crime in another member state. Worst of all, and this does deserve capital letter. The European Police (Europol) Officers have been given DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!
Crazy times.
“Now, the money situation is bad, very bad. But worse news concerns politics, in particular the fate of freedom and democracy in Europe.”
You say, “freedom and democracy” as if they go together.
The do not. They are antithetical to each other.
What Europe, and America needs, is not democracy, but REPUBLICAN principles, i.e., the rule of LAW, not of MEN, as our Founding Fathers envisioned and delivered to us to keep.
Too many Americans are victims of our dumbed-down educational system, so have bought the leftist lie that “democracy” is a good thing.
love it