A Maoist in the White House
N.B.: Anita Dunn is not just an Obama hanger-on. She is part of his inner circle, one of his top aides, along with David Axelrod, Rahm Emmanuel, and Robert Gibbs. What does it mean that someone in that position proffers one of the greatest monsters the world has ever seen for emulation?
Anita Dunn calls Mao a “political philosopher.” In fact, as a real philosopher, the late, great Leszek Kolakowski, understood, Mao’s real achievement was as “one of the greatest, if not the very greatest, manipulator of large masses of human beings in the twentieth century.” His violent peasant revolution mouthed Marxist slogans, but at its core was less Marxist than a particularly rebarbative form of anarchic and anti-intellectual tyranny. “The obfuscation of Western admirers of Chinese Communism,” Kolakowski observes toward the end of his magnum opus, Main Currents of Marxism, “is scarcely believable.” I wish he were still here for Anita Dunn.
In the 1960s and 1970s, many American universities, along with some other Western redoubts of privilege and irresponsibility, harbored a few deluded characters who declared themselves Maoists and were fond of toting around his pathetic compendium of absurdity, “The Little Red Book.” These creatures were the sorriest detritus of our own cultural revolution. Some destroyed themselves. Others grew up, in whole or part, and were absorbed by a rich and forgiving society into the tissues of American life. Only now is it clear that some of the most radical and benighted have subsisted long enough in the outer corridors of power to find themselves suddenly translated into its inner sanctum, the White House and other top agencies of the United States government. It is an eventuality that would be risible were it not repulsive and, indeed, frightening.
So, we have a self-professed admirer of Mao Tse-Tung in a top job at the White House. Where does it end? Where?
This is also the first time I’ve ever heard of Mother Teresa referred to as a political philosopher.
These busy bodies politicize everything. And I mean everything.
In her twisted mind, I guess is M. Teresa is supposed to be playing good cop to Mao’s 70 millions murdered bad cop.
OT, but that woman’s teeth looked like they were trying to make a break for it several times. Looks like they’ve gotten sick and tired of the lies. She looks just like Bill Maher’s type, though.
“So, we have a self-professed admirer of Mao Tse-Tung in a top job at the White House. Where does it end? Where?”
That’s the scariest question of all…
I’d rather peel an onion about now.
Sickening.
Another Communist exposed by Glenn Beck. She needs to be removed. How many Harpies have hatched since Obama’s been in office? I’ve lost count. Jennings was the last one.
Roger, in all seriousness, all the time and energy that has been devoted to reforming Washington, what has been the result?
Instead of dividing the US into various countries, set up a US government-in-exile, and I am sure that countries such as Israel (which is hardly along amongst countries which were friends, but are now seen as enemies) would recognize this government-in-exile.
For, I honestly do not see Washington cleaned up, so it might as well be treated like a dunsel in the Star Trek episode, “The Ultimate
Computer”.
So, we have a self-professed admirer of Mao Tse-Tung in a top job at the White House. Where does it end? Where?
With a Maoist in *the* top job at the White House, of course. In case you missed it, it happened January 20th.
Yes, Mao. The fount of wisdom, goodness, compassion. Who had syphilis and and said “I clean myself off in the women I’m with.”
Back in my college days I was around some REALLY coked up people, and the tongue thrusting and lip licking was something they did a LOT when high.
This is the equvilant of a self-professed member of the Nazi SS. Excepting only that, as an evil mastermind, Mao was more successful than Hitler.
American politics have lost all credibility.
The speaker’s inability to keep her tongue in her mouth makes this video practically unwatchable.
Visibly and aurally offputting.
So a presidential candidate walks into a bar with a Racist Hate Monger, An Anti American Terrorist, and a Slumlord and the bartender says…
There’s actually not a punchline for this joke, but now insert Maoist America Hater into the mix…this is disgusting…what’s next? Maybe a couple child molesters, necrophiliacs or crackheads? Never mind, I need a vacation.
“It would be like me saying to you, ‘you know who my favorite political philosopher is? Adolf Hitler.’ Have you read Mein Kampf? …” Beck said.
This is most likely true about Beck.
Oh dont forget your heroes – “War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood,” Gingrich said, citing Mao.”
Karl Rove, another Fox News contributor, wrote in a December 2008 Wall Street Journal op-ed that President Bush “encouraged me to read a Mao biography.”
Lets here the outrage!
Here’s where the Republicans’ (particularly like the author and the Palin impaired) intellectual and ideological agoraphobia has led them:
• That Quinnipiac survey finds that just 25 percent approve of the way Republicans in Congress are handling their job, while 64 percent disapprove.
• The latest Democracy Corps survey finds just 30 percent with a favorable opinion the GOP while 44 have an unfavorable opinion. That -14 point net approval rating is nearly twice as bad as it was on Election Day in 2008. Moreover, at net 17-point favorability gap between the two parties is down only slightly from Election Day 2008 and is still substantially larger than when Democrats secured their first of two successive wave victories on Election Day in 2006.
• A similar analysis of Pew data from Brendan Nylan at Pollster.com finds that “the Republicans are currently viewed more negatively than any minority party in the previous four midterms in terms of both net favorables and the difference in net favorables between parties.”
Another way of characterizing this type of thinking is that it is at the meglomania extreme of paranoia
Michael, I think that would be, “Let’s hear the outrage!”
If you’re going to be outrageous, Michael, I think it might be a good idea not to make two spelling errors in a four word sentence.
But wait, as a deconstructionist, you probably have no regard for form at all.
Silly you. Pity the rest of us.
Is there anyone in the Obama white house that does NOT have a socialists/communist background?
Reading the Mao biography is coming to understand the world of Mao. It does NOT mean he is your “hero”, the person you turn to in time of needing to understand, it does not make Mao someone you look up to , and admire… I have read the Christian bible, I am not a Christian. I read it to understand. I have read books on Hitler etc…to understand where people come from..not to emulate them.
#10 , unfortunately I agree with you. It was distracting and I felt bad about it.
My favorite political philosophers are Caligula, Torquemada, and Nero…can I have a job Mr Obama?
Some of the people around The Messiah are from the worst of the American left. Dunn is just another who has been outed. How many more?
Where is the media? Why can we only hear about these people on Fox? How deeply in the tank are the networks? Are reporters getting paid off? Don’t think it’s impossible. How else to explain this massive disinterest about anything that could harm The Messiah’s reputation?
The media elected this guy…now they are protecting him.
In a speech last June, Dunn spoke passionately about her two favorite political philosophers, “the two people I turn to most” for answers to important questions like “how to do things that have never been done before.” Who are these paragons? One was Mother Teresa. Dunn didn’t have much to say about her. Most of her enthusiasm was lavished upon her other favorite fount of political wisdom: Mao Tse-Tung.
Michael, you really think the above told to High School students by a close advisor to the prez is along the SAME lines as citing a commonly used ‘Mao-ism’ or mentioning being encouraged to read/study Mao?
Really?
OK.
SO TELL US “MICHAEL”..do you register any difference between an extreme left winger
with immediate access to the highest levels of power quoting Mao..with the prefix..”My Favorite Philosoper” and any other politician’s reference to Mao? Hmmm Mikey?
But wait mindless relativism is the crippling handicap of all permanent adolescents isnt it?
I give her credit for admitting the source of her political philosophy. At least we know where she’s coming from. Many of these people, particularly on the left, won’t admit to their philosophical heritage.
#13 Reading a book about a mass murderer is not the same as stating they are your favorite philosopher.
Poor choice of words for Anita in my opinion.
Michael,
Knowing someone’s biography doesn’t mean he is your favorite political philosopher. I have studied Hitler in depth, but my purpose is to try to prevent a repeat of the Nazi evil. I can quote Adolph Hitler, and I can quote the devil, but I admire neither. I would strongly advise you to study Hitler and Mao, but don’t emulate them. To prevent evil it is important to be able to recognize it.
“the two people [Mao and Mother Theresa] I turn to most to deliver a simple point…”, the point being (I paraphrase) persevere even in the face of difficult/uncertain circumstances. Don’t believe me though, watch the video (where she also shockingly refers to Mao as a political philosopher).
Yep, she’s a Maoist. Case closed. Slam dunk. Any use of Mao’s life story as an analogy is unequivocal proof of that.
It’s a good sequel to that horrible safe schools official who reminded a 16 year old boy of the importance of condoms DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE AIDS OUTBREAK IN GAY AMERICA, after the boy revealed to him that he was gay and had DISCUSSED his homosexuality with an older man at a bus stop.
I know the cacophony of people agreeing with each other is a bit loud, but can we take a 5 minute break a day for reality?
Michael -
In the quote above, neither is referred to as “my favorite political philosopher”.
And I’ve read biographies of both Stalin and Hitler, doesn’t mean I in any way agree with their views.
By the way, it’s “hear”, not “here”. The latter refers to a place, the former to auditory reception.
#12 & 13
What?? What?? Michael, did you drop out of troll school? Someone who works for Obama openly professes her admiration for Mao, and your responses are:
1. Glenn Beck probably admires Hitler.
2. Karl Rove has read Mao’s biography.
3. Newt Gingrich can quote Mao.
I have read biographies of George Patton and Horatio Nelson. Does that make me a war hero?
No, I see a extreme right-winger with the “highest level of power” (Bush) recommending Mao, and a leading conservative (Gingrich) and I don’t see you right wing nuts having any problem with it. This is called hypocrisy, look it up!
PS – Sorry for my typos, at least I didn’t type in all caps like most of you bottom-feeders.
#17 Baal:
“My favorite political philosophers are Caligula, Torquemada, and Nero…can I have a job Mr Obama?”
You can’t have a job, but please invite me to your next party!
Like I have often said in this space:”SCRATCH A LIBERAL:FIND A STALINIST(OR MAOIST)!
Roger,
Just a suggestion to change “found of” to “fond of.”
“War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood,” Gingrich said, citing Mao.
Don’t get your shorts in a knot, Rog, Newt isn’t a Maoist, probably.
Certainly very interesting. I would rather watch the Christmas Carol movie when it comes out. The trailer looks pretty sweet!
I have met many executive assistants and their families over the years. I am glad that at least one of them appears to be well read on some of the world’s past leaders. Education is not to be feared. Just because we read up on hitler, does not make us nazi’s. We should leave her alone, she is thinking !! and this president needs all the intelect, he can muster. Dont you agree?
I suspect that Dunn is done but that neither she nor BOZ grasp that yet.
Regardless of our political opinions, I think any of us who have observed someone really high on coke can agree with Rob @#8 in that she is definitely exhibiting the mannerisms of a coke head. Whether she is one or not, who knows?
#28 PAUL: NO.EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF PSYCHOTIC KILLERS,(MENTALLY HANDICAPPED,OTHER ABLED), THEY ARE ALL DEAD WHITE MALES ,AND SO DO NOT QUALIFY FOR CONSIDERATION UNDER OUR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION GUIDELINES.ALSO, TORQUEMADA WAS A CHRISTIAN.MAY I SUGGEST YOU CITE IDI AMIN, POL POT,AND FIDEL IN YOUR RESUME INSTEAD.ALL ARE MINORITES, ALL ARE MASS-MURDERING DICTATORS,AND THEREFORE INSPIRATIONAL FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STAFF THE OBAMA REGIME. CORDIALLY, RAHM EMMANUEL
I’m seriously worried about you Michael. The definition of hypocrisy surely includes parsing words to suit your own dogma.
RE #14/Albert: [...] Here’s where the Republicans’ (particularly like the author and the Palin impaired) intellectual and ideological agoraphobia has led them [...]
Albert, my poor thing – can you explain your construction that connects republicans with “agoraphobia”?
If can appear intelligent during this operation, please don’t hesitate -
Quite inspiring actually. You don’t have to be a Mao fan to appreciate the brevity and wit – of course, he’s a bit more clever in Mandarin.
Peace.
DS
Presidential Approval Index:The Wages of Hubris…
01/21/09….+28
10/16/09… -11
I have read almost all of Marx, I quote Marx sometimes, I do not consider myself a Marxist, and I would never refer to him as my favorite political philosopher because of the horror unleashed on mankind in the name of Marxism.
31. biblio44:
27. Michael:
14. Albert:
Yes, this is bad, and it does not belong in the White House. If you spent more time cleaning up your side of the street (the left) and less time rationalizing it or engaging in moral equivalence, you would be doing better.
WAIT…this was a speech in front of HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS????????
“A Maoist in the White House”
That’s nothing. I have a list of 48 card-carrying commies in the State Department!
Watching the video it’s amusing watching a person in power, one of the elite, advocating principles and a course of action that apparently she thinks she is exempt from. I suppose that’s called being focused. You would think an American would have plenty of home grown role models at the edge of their lips–say a Lincoln or Grant or Clara Barton– but invariably out comes Mao and Mother Terresa as models of correct conduct to emulate. I suppose that French trained Marxist Pol Pot was just a piker in only killing two million Cambodians when liquidating the middle class and elite intellectuals, like Anita Dunn.
I don’t know where this ends, Roger, but I suspect it won’t be pleasant.
**His violent peasant revolution mouthed Marxist slogans, but at its core was less Marxist than a particularly rebarbative form of anarchic and anti-intellectual tyranny.**
A particularly rebarbative form of anarchic and anti-intellectual tyranny? Isn’t that what real-life Marxism is everywhere it has been imposed?
To 27. Michael:
Today on the radio I heard about a biography of Mao that I’d like to read. It’s a biography that shows that Edgar Snow was a dupe. Snow, like Dunn, idolized Mao. He passed along to American readers whatever false information Mao wanted passed along. This means he was Mao’s Walter Duranty, and he was a principle reason Americans were deceived about Mao.
A biography of Mao which shows him as the monster he was would be a very good thing to read.
Yours,
Tom DeGisi
WOW.. the trolls here really have no reasoning. Their statements are silly, uninformed and juvenile. Just ignore them, the more you answer them they more they vomit out.
Yeah, she does look like she’s on “something”. It was distracting. Where the heck was the principle of this high school?
I sincerely hope we can bring some common sense back to the USA.
These types of people are a danger to our children.
Mao and Mother Theresa?? MT might roll over in her grave…
48. Annie: “WOW.. the trolls here really have no reasoning.”
Well, that’s your opinion, Annie. Once again, it’s the Trolls vs. the A-holes.
I just want to say that that other Michael is an imposter! The shame is that he is an idiot to.
Claiming Mao as your favorite political philosopher is so aberrant as to be nearly unbelievable. Defending someone who does is stupid.
With all of this in mind I’d like to touch on something that I think far too often gets overlooked: Barack Obama is in power because of the corruption of the Republican party, because of deficit spending, because of massive borrowing during the Bush years. I’m not going to discuss Iraq because that’s a whole other issue.
I think the Dems are in the beginning stages of implosion, which will lead to the Republicans regaining congress in the next few years, maybe the white house. Im not entirely enthusiastic about this if they behave the way they did during the Bush years. I want a party of limited government. They can repeat their broken record mantra of tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts all day and it will make zero difference unless we CUT SPENDING.
We need every single elected republican official to take the PLEDGE. The pledge is a solemn oath to never engage in deficit spending, and to suspend issuance of treasury bills until the debt is PAID OFF COMPLETELY. Anyone who violates the pledge will be kicked out immediately with NO SECOND CHANCE.
The PLEDGE could become a cornerstone issue of this website, of the Tea Party movement. I think it’s the only thing that’s going to save this sinking ship. Lets see whether the Republican Party is worth saving!
Nikita Krushchev said that politicians are the same the world over. They promise to build a bridge, even where there is no river.
Does this make me a fan of Krushchev? No. A thousand times, no. Instead it is a statement
that could be made at anytime and found to be true.
Folks, there are decisions made that do not affect the political arena. So, keep that in mind even though this is a political blog.
Another jump to conclusions. Congratulations.
I love how in Beck’s video he says he wanted to show it so people know it’s not taken out of context, yet that’s exactly what he does by casually omitting the lead up to her reference to Mao and Mother Teresa.
Tell you what, admit Rush Limbaugh is a racist and then left can admit she’s a Marxist.
41. baal:
WAIT…this was a speech in front of HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS????????
The only thing that shocks me is that they chuckled knowingly when Dunne admitted that Mother Theresa and Mao aren’t often thought of as being similar. I mean, who knew American high school students ever heard of either of them?
Gingrich quotes Mao too. My god, it’s spreading like swine flu!
A May 1995 Roll Call profile of then-Speaker of the House and current Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich reported:
While Gingrich, who made his reputation by attacking the ethics of fellow Members, did call the House a “personable place” where colleagues use “friendship to minimize friction,” the overall theme of his remarks was downright martial.
Schools do a bad job of teaching students about Congress, said the former college history professor, because they emphasize lessons about how things get done, rather than how Members fight. The two houses of Congress, said Gingrich, are “arenas for conflict” where “we sublimate civil war to bring people together.”
Gingrich even quoted a political leader not previously known to be one of his influences. “War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood,” said the Speaker, citing the late Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-tung. [Roll Call, 5/29/95 (accessed via Nexis)]
As I keep asking my democrat friends, doesn’t Obama know any NORMAL people? He seems to surround himself with child molesters, race-baiters and fans of mass murderers. What fun his office parties must be!
But seriously. What are we going to do when this has a material effect on us, i.e. if/when liberal “healthcare” is passed? Are we going to demand that candidates for federal office pledge to push for a repeal? “Repeal” should be a big word right now.
My two favorite political philosophers are Adolf Hitler and Tomás de Torquemada. So they both had what we may politely refer to as “Jew issues”, but that doesn’t mean we have to throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water, do we?
PS: I’d love to be one of those Obama Czars!
No wonder there are shortages of ammo. Everyone is getting cowboyed up.
So the trolls are saying: Its perfectly normal for a White House big-whig to use her one moment in front of high school students to mention a wonderful trait of a tyrant.
So if you are giving a speech to high school art students, its perfectly reasonable to use that moment to mention how fond you are of Hitler’s paintings?
And the trolls say it means nothing at all? I suppose if you boil everything down to: I think therefore I am; and I can be certain of nothing else, its not really extraordinary. But if you live in the REAL WORLD, its nothing short of bizarre.
Well, one thing I think we can all agree on is that our values and views of the world are so fundamentally different we may as well be two different species, and we’d all be better off living separately.
East to West; North to South. It makes no difference. Divide the country!!!
All the lip licking reminds me of my dog chowing down on peanut butter.
The style section of WAPO had a piece on Ms. Dunn yesterday stating that she will be leaving the administration at the end of the year. It was the typical left-wing puff piece expressing how brilliant she is, and the administration will miss her dearly.
Oh please. Republican President Richard Nixon was the biggest Mao toady the White House has ever seen.
Barack Obama’s cabinet and czars are a rogues gallery of Marxists(Stalinist? Maoists?),radical racists,antisemites,and antiAmericans.
Dunn’s points about Mao (her litany of reasons for finding him valuable as a political philosopher) besides being nuts, were so puerile and ridiculous.
And to think they were spoken before graduating high school seniors.
I could not take my eyes off of her mouth and lip smacking.
Did she need a drink of water ? Was she parched ?
It was mentioned in passing that she is leaving the Obama administration voluntarily.
Hopefully to check herself into some re-education center.
RE #14 returning to nutty Albert: “[...] Another way of characterizing this type of thinking is that it is at the meglomania extreme of paranoia [...]”
Sorry for forgetting to address this in my #38: can you explain for those less intellectually empowered what is “meglomania extreme of paranoia”?
Appreciate -
Confused in California
My two favorites are Lee Harvey Oswald, and John Wilkes Booth. Where is either one when we need them most?
RE #42/biblio44: [...] That’s nothing. I have a list of 48 card-carrying commies in the State Department! [...]
“The white race is the cancer of the world!” – you are right, Biblio, the Mao thing is nothing.
Guess what, Biblio, I am in posession of Barack Obama’s “North-South Relationships In The Post-Colonial Age” graduation thesis, and the paper has as motto “The white race is the cancer of the world!” (remember Susan Sontag’s screed?)
So, as you can see, Dunn’s Mao murderous inspiration is completely dwarfed by Obama’s philosophical convictions – aren’t we assisting, day-in-day-day-out at their vindictive implementation, both in home and foreign affairs?
Making fun of Dunne’s love of Mao: Well done!
Making fun of Dunne’s speaking habits: Badly done, and please be quiet!
Yours,
Tom DeGisi
I suppose that French trained Marxist Pol Pot was just a piker in only killing two million Cambodians
If I remember correctly, as a percentage of the population, Pot came out ahead of Mao.
It’s been a while, but last I recall, Maoists didn’t think ANYONE who had been born and raised in American society, with the exception of blacks and people who’d spent time in prison (Mike Tyson, anyone?), could truly understand their “philosophy”.
A real Maoist would consider a bourgeois white woman, or any other DC politico, a complete impostor. The trolls here snarking about the video clip probably wouldn’t pass muster, either, unless ‘Michael’ above is really the aforementioned Iron Mike Tyson.
I’m all for throwing her under the bus (rickshaw?), of course, since she appears to have zero redeeming qualities.
Lets look at some of Mao & Anita Dunn’s favorite ‘words of wisdom’ shall we…
“You don’t have to accept the definition of how to do things”
So basically you do whatever you damn well please…up to and including the mass murder of 50M people in order to impose a totalitarian state. Rule of law, political process, civility, those are definitions you don’t need to accept or even understand, because you ‘fight your own war’.
“You don’t let external definition define how good you are internally”
Reality has no bearing on your life (how many times have we seen that little disconnect among commie-baby killers and the trolls) , you do whatever is good for yourself. You fight your own war because the world revolves around YOU.
This is the childish psychology of a Maoist, Marxist, Commie, et al. Coming to a White House near you.
It seems to me that we who are Right were supposed to take no notice of Mr. Obama’s past associations, during last year’s campaign.
Now that he’s bringing his “associates” with him into power, we’re not supposed to notice that, either.
At what point in the purposeful destruction of the Republic are we entitled to take notice, if our leftie friends could please advise us?
68. misanthropicus:
“ping. ping. ping . . Respond to query from homebase . . . ping. ping . . . native communique demands ping back from agent thropilicus . . . implant requires servicing . . . ping. ping . . . fractured syntax risks revealing true genetics . . . digital earwig now prime transponder . . . ping. ping . . . blue air . . . ping. ping . . . “
“Where does it end?”
The American gulag, of course.
But, it will have some sort of catchy name . . . “Ilse de Merde” or what not.
No wonder people are buying guns and ammo at record rates! The cost of AR-15′s have gone through the roof.
The one thing that the left has never been able to come to grips with is the fact that Hitler and Mao are merely the opposing sides of a totalitarian coin. Philosophically there is no difference between them. Either way you end up a slave.
13. Michael:
“Karl Rove, another Fox News contributor, wrote in a December 2008 Wall Street Journal op-ed that President Bush “encouraged me to read a Mao biography.”
Lets here the outrage!”
It’s good advice. I gave my bio of Mao away so someone else could read that monster. He said a few cleaver things and did many things down right evil.
of course, he’s a bit more clever in Mandarin.
Oh, sure David. As if you know Mandarin, you pretentious ass.
Such brilliance and yet you can’t distinguish between simply quoting someone and expressing admiration for a person. That’s intellectually beyond your ken, I see.
Is your appreciation of Mao’s exquisite Mandarian at all hampered by the fact that his policies caused one of the worst famines in history? Or that he killed and imprisoned millions. Nah, of course not. Mao had “good intentions,” after all.
(Mao really wasn’t a very elegant fellow. Very vulgar and physically dirty, although it looks like he was less of a slob than Michael Moore.)
Yeah, telling young people to follow their own path, that’s criminal. And really, when we quote our great Presidents, Kennedy and LBJ and Nixon, who murdered millions of Vietnamese, Reagan, who funded a slew of dictators who tortured and jailed and murdered, etcetera, its because our Presidents were alright guys underneath it all. You shouldn’t pay attention to the people they killed; they killed those people for a good reason. That fact only adds to their wisdom.
I knew you weren’t very bright, but you really stepped over the line to imbecile by using Beck to make your point. There’s a disc jockey in my market area that could use the attention, why not just ask him?
If you had anything intelligent to say about this, you obviously wouldn’t be highlighted at SelfPwnage Media. Here’s what a real conservative said about it. Note the part where he thinks, by using his brain for something other than holding up his three wisps of hair:
…For instance, it’s possible that it’s such a friendly and ideologically-attuned audience that Dunn thinks she can get away with making fine points about Mao without being questioned on the larger point that she deplores him as a communist dictatory. It’s entirely possible — I’ve certainly been at events where liberals feel comfortable enough with the audience to discuss the effiencies of communist health care systems without first bothering to disclaim communism’s atrocities. Similarly, I’ve heard conservatives praise South American dictators for implementing certain free-market reforms without mentioning at the same time that they appreciate that the people they’re talking about were in fact dictators.
The other problem is that, as far as I’m aware, there’s no other information out there that suggests that Anita Dunn is the kind of person who would talk about Mao’s achievements, let alone be a secret communist sympathizer.
Uh, duh.
Making fun of Dunne’s speaking habits: Badly done, and please be quiet!
If she has some sort of genuine speech impediment, then yes, I agree that mockery of it is beyond the pale.
But – why would you hire someone with a speech impediment as a WH Communications Director? Her job is to communicate and she can’t do that very well if viewers are distracted by what her mouth and tongue are doing. It is a bit absurd, no? Like hiring a legally blind person to drive your car, or naming Michael Moore Fitness Czar.
Re: Roger’s List Of Rogues: “Jeremiah Wright. William Ayers. Van Jones. Where does the rogues’ gallery of Barack Obama’s radical friends end?”
Well, Roger, you can update your list of rogues and creeps – here’s Shepard Fairey’s (Obama’s official artist) fiery re-enter… (Credit to E&A Pub [a blog] via HuffPo).
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“[...] Striking at the heart of his fair use case against the AP, Shepard Fairey has now been forced to admit that he sued the AP under false pretenses by lying about which AP photograph he used to make the Hope and Progress posters. Mr. Fairey has also now admitted to the AP that he fabricated and attempted to destroy other evidence in an effort to bolster his fair use case and cover up his previous lies and omissions.
In his Feb. 9, 2009 complaint for a declaratory judgment against the AP, Fairey falsely claimed to have used an AP photograph of George Clooney sitting next to then-Sen. Barack Obama as the source of the artist’s Hope and Progress posters. However, as the AP correctly alleged in its March 11, 2009 response, Fairey had instead used a close-up photograph of Obama from the same press event, which is an exact match for Fairey’s posters. In its response, the AP also correctly surmised that Fairey had attempted to hide the true identity of the source photo in order to help his case by arguing that he had to make more changes to the source photo than he actually did, i.e., that he at least had to crop it. [...]
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Man, there simply aren’t normal people around Obama?
Why is anyone surprised?
Could we one day again have a president who likes America? Could we at least have a president who has a single friend who likes America? God save us.
Sorry, I forgot, more about mister Obama’s official iconograph, Shepard “yes-we-can” Fairey.
I think Fairey also just wiggled out somehow from another case, that time of vandalism, major graffiti damage – I don’t know the terms, but I think that the (progressive) damage was estimated at about $800.000.
And since here, isn’t Yosi Sargant, the guy behind the NEA teleconference calls/ meetings for supporting Obama’s ideas with artistic efforts the one who represented Fairey before and organized his shows?
My, small is the world – and peculiar types are Obama’s friends -
I think Glenn Beck is going to have another scalp on his belt. He will keep playing this until Anita Dunn resigns late on a Friday afternoon. Probably either next week or the week after. And just like Van Jones, the viewers of the broadcast networks, CNN, and MSNBC will be clueless as to the reason why. But what is really funny about this is that Anita went hunting for Glenn Beck calling out what she claimed were lies. And in the end, it will be her that gets pushed under the Obama bus.
Is there anyone that Obama has brought into the Whitehouse with him that looks up to Jefferson, Adams, or Washington? I would like to believe that there has to be at least one.
80. Moho:
You could be correct. She could simply have written her speech poorly, not realizing that people would think that when she said Mao was one of her two favorite political philosophers that she meant that Mao was one of her two favorite political philosophers. Or perhaps she does hate Mao because he was a murderous thug, but finds his political philosophy attractive. That doesn’t speak well for her, though, since his political philosophy has been uniformly murderous wherever implemented. Why, Maoist terrorists are killing people in India right now! And in addition failing to vet her own comments to ensure that they don’t contain any accidental endorsements of mass murderers in our current media environment would seem a rather signal failing in a Communications Director.
Mocking people for a lack of critical thinking is a bad idea when your post so easily falls prey to a few seconds of critical thinking itself.
I know lots and lots of well meaning people with truly bad ideas. It’s rather likely that Dunne means well. But Maoism and other forms of Marxism are truly bad ideas. We should use the enforcement mechanisms of social norms, such as mockery, to drive them from typical discourse. This may take some time since they are firmly entrenched among the intelligensia. Marxism deserves to go the way of phrenology.
Yours,
Tom DeGisi
Demand drug testing for all Government Officials starting with Barack “Crank” Obama. We simply cannot allow ourselves to be controlled by these whacked out druggies. That is the root of our problems.
Know many Mormons who are leftists?
Yoo-hoo, trolls…I still have not read an emphatic bonafide defense of the “my favorite philosopher..” who I “frequently turn to” remark.
Don’t get me wrong, Ive read a bio on Chairman Mao, too, and hell, I may have quoted him – who knows? But, and here’s the catch, if I could go back in time and to a strategic place, I would happily apply many pounds-per-square inch of pressure via a Louisville Slugger to the cranium of aforementioned Chairman…so, gents (and Moho), please start again and enlighten me…did I miss Newt prefacing his quote with “my favorite dude next to Jesus once said” or Bush’s “Say, Karl, you know how I am always going on and on about Mao said this or Mao did that, well here’s a book…”
Here’s some history to hang our right-wing hats….after six long years of New Deal legislation and an ever-climbing unemployment rate, FDR was finally stymied…in 1938, his Congressional majority went poof as his party lost seven Senate and 70 House seats. After 1938, while most of his New Deal damage was done and wouldn’t be undone until after his ridiculous wage and price controls were repealed after WWII, no major piece of New Deal legislation would be passed after the WAgner Act of 1938. The 2010 checkmate can’t come quick enough…but come it will. At this rate, we’ll have 8 or so more Commie outings and not even the mainstream media can dodge ALL of them. The sheeple are waking up and they are not enthralled with Comrade O’s band of merry Leninists.
Ruebacca: I have Jung Chang’s biography of Mao on the shelf a few feet from my desk. I would make it assigned reading on college campuses so everyone would realize what a monster the man was.
It’s very funny to read the howls of the leftists here, who are very critical of US “warmongering” and love bambi for wanting a world without nukes. Dunn hero had no problems starving his own people to build China’s bomb:
The cost of China’s bomb has been estimated at US$4.1 billion. This amount could have brought enough wheat to provide an extra calories per day for two years for the entire population – enough to save the lives of every single one of the nearly 38 million people who died in the famine. Mao’s Bomb caused 100 times as many deaths as both the bombs the Americans dropped on Japan.
Moronic PJM trolls: “Oh, but Mao wasn’t as bad as Limbaugh and Beck!”
Pretentious PJM troll “Well, who cares how many millions he murdered? His Mandarin was quite eleqant.”
My, small is the world – and peculiar types are Obama’s friends -
Tell me about it. The sinister freaks that make up bambi’s administration remind me of a Fellini film.
RE #86/BIG: [...] But what is really funny about this is that Anita went hunting for Glenn Beck calling out what she claimed were lies. And in the end, it will be her that gets pushed under the Obama bus. [...]
Hopefully so and the pin-ball ricocheting you mention (and hopefully will happen), is similar with the Van Jones affair – had Van Jones kept a low profile and avoided to engage Glenn, he (Jones) probably would still have a seat in the WH. But he moved aggressively (and with the uppers’ approval) with his ColorOfChange joint against Beck, asking/ blackmailing advertisers into removing accounts, so Glenn took advantage of this pleasant opportunity to strike back with proportionate force. And now Van Jones is out -
Hopefully this pattern will repeat in Rush’s case and Anita’s case as well -
that had the
Where ever communists took over, the first people they executed were those who had advocated communism. Along with any teachers. The communists lined entire populations up and checked their hands for calluses. If no calluses, then either execution, or off to “re-education camps” where the vast majority of them died.
People such as Anita Dunn would be absolutely hilarious if in a light opera as Gilbert and Sullivan wrote. As a person of power in any administration, it is tragic to say the least. We Americans will pay and pay dearly.
Oh yes, as to “approval polls”. Did it occur to any of you that an absolute requirement in taking a telephone poll is that the person polled has to have a land line telephone? The land line is the first thing to go when short on money, and already, more than 25% of adult Americans have given up land line telephones as it is, to save money.
My best guess, is that the big balloon will go up by Christmas. Happy holidays, all.
And to think that Roger Simon thought I was kidding when I said the current Right is a direct descendant of the John Birch Society.
“War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood,” says Biblio44, citing Gingrich citing Mao.
Similarly, I’ve heard conservatives praise South American dictators for implementing certain free-market reforms without mentioning at the same time that they appreciate that the people they’re talking about were in fact dictators.
The difference being that in a discussion of free-market reforms in Latin America, there are only a select few individuals to mention. Dunn could have done the standard commencement speaker thing and quoted her favorite passage from “Catcher In The Rye” on ‘doing your own thing’ (a banal sentiment that finds expression in an almost infinite number of places) and been done with it.
These people are all evil. What ever happened to Truth – Compassion – Tolerance?
This is the weirdest government the country has ever had to endure. Jimmy Carter is finally happy he won’t be the worst US president. Pray that the Jersey and Virginia elections shake some sense in congress to slow down this madness.
I agree with an above poster that why is ok for Gingrich to quote Mao and not Anita Dunn? Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
Mao said “power emanates from the end of gun”. That was how he took power.
The thing that prevents the Mao scenario from happening here in the US is that the Obama liberals would rather eat dirt before they skilled themselves in the art of War. I know many of them, they love books and are generally very good with musical instruments, holistic arts and bicycles. I don’t know a one that would not soil themselves if ever they fired a gun or were in the proximity of one being fired. Many have never served in the military.
On the other hand, most conservatives I know consider it a duty to have several firearms, to maintain them and their skills using them, and keep a good supply of ammunition. Many have honorable discharges from the military.
Any neo-Maoists would attempt to use our own armed forces against us, as was done in recent history during the Clinton administration (Waco, Elian Gonzales).
The likelihood of that effort being successful on a large scale is close to zero percent.
At least, that is my hope.
You’re really this scared of opposing ideas? Oh well…good thing your readership is too dumb to use google…
the darting tongue reminds me of a lizard, looking for it’s next meal. “hmmmmm, weak minded high school students… I can bend their minds like the proverbial spoon”
The fact that someone of her soscio-political (sic) persuasion has a job in the WH speaks volumes about what Obama’s political ideals are. In the beginning of this fiasco, when asked about his educational past, which had already been sealed, he stated “you will know where my views are based on those i surround myself with” or something to that effect, i do not have the exact quote. Seems to me that he has shown, unabashedly, that he is a marxist, who wants nothing more than the collapse of the country who pretty much ended the marxist “utopia” when Reagan had the wall knocked down. No wonder he won’t be in Germany to celebrate. He’ll be crying in his pillow.
Does ANYONE on teh rights know what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean? Any clue at all?
How wise the founding fathers were to have included the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights.
I realized I was a conservative while I was in jail for the first time,those “Mexicans really believe in that MAO BULL shit” and it really MADE ME THINK!!!
I am barley grasping 4 hope:)
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Does ANYONE on teh [sic] rights know what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean? Any clue at all?
It means death to many, many, people, and those who advocate it or think to “tame” it to suit their purposes are never exempt. In fact, they are often among the first to die. People who think are not welcome those societies.
Lies are easier done than said.
@79. Donna V.:
Oh, sure David. As if you know Mandarin, you pretentious ass.
Oh, sure Donna. As if you know how many years I’ve studied Mandarin. And you call me pretentious!
Such brilliance and yet you can’t distinguish between simply quoting someone and expressing admiration for a person. That’s intellectually beyond your ken, I see.
Are you having trouble distinguishing between admiration for someone’s philosophical expressions, and admiration for the person? While at the same time denigrating my intellect? How brilliant.
Is your appreciation of Mao’s exquisite Mandarian at all hampered by the fact that his policies caused one of the worst famines in history? Or that he killed and imprisoned millions. Nah, of course not. Mao had “good intentions,” after all.
Intentions aside, Mao’s philosophical contributions can be appreciated without condoning his policies. Just like any other philosopher.
(Mao really wasn’t a very elegant fellow. Very vulgar and physically dirty, although it looks like he was less of a slob than Michael Moore.)
Of course, this is totally irrelevant to his writing as well. Not that relevance ever made a difference here.
I also appreciate the philosophical utterances of the founding fathers, unhampered by the fact that they held slaves, subjugated women, and killed and imprisoned millions of native Americans. They had “good intentions,” after all. And their ideas are noble despite their ignoble acts.
Peace.
DS
Mother Teresa compared to Mao is as profane as anything could be. An insult to say the least.
Hmm…what would the reaction be if she had said Mother Teresa and a certain Galilean? The screams of the secularists still shouting “Give us Barrabas!!” ‘IHS’
Two things are really disturbing about this latest unmasking.
First, the WH has apparently decided to stop firing the people exposed. It seems to me they are going to dig in and wait for it to blow over. Jennings is still around. Dunn is still around. Holdren is still around. And so on.
The second thing that’s disturbing is that Americans have apparently forgotten why these people worship Mao and Castro. It has nothing to do with mutant admiration for the better societies they created. It’s strictly envy and lust for the power that those men had and have. Anita Dunn wants to be able to murder 70 million people with impunity in order to make the toxic omelet she wants to force down our throats. This is not complicated, folks. All of these people are soi disant mass murderers and they need to be expelled from government and shunnned.
I just hope that some of the independents and the patriotic democrats (if there are any around) will pay attention to the people surrounding this president and vote him out of office in 2012. He is hurting the country on a daily basis. He has already done a lot of damage and is marching on, happily, in campaign mode, seemingly untouched by the doubts and fears of the American people.
I agree with an above poster that why is ok for Gingrich to quote Mao and not Anita Dunn? Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
Stupidity, thy name is Democrat.
Many posters have alread explained the difference between merely quoting someone and saying he is your favorite political philosopher. It’s a fairly obvious point but sails 100 yards over the heads of thick-headed trolls.
To Dearest Matthew (# 104), Please enlighten me as to what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean. I was in East Berlin in June 1989 and Cuba in February 2004, but I would really like your insights. Please, do tell.
Maybe she is confusing Mao with another Obama-school philosopher, Mousey Tongue – who may soon be named as shadow Primary Education Czar.
Ah, David S. no suprise to me that you admire Mao. You’re already indicated that you believe the elites should be able to do as they wish with “the little people,” as evidenced by your support of a child rapist.
BTW, Calvin Trillin at the Nation wrote a poem about your other hero, Polanski:
A youthful error? Yes, perhaps.
But he’s been punished for this lapse–
For decades exiled from LA
He knows, as he wakes up each day,
He’ll miss the movers and the shakers.
He’ll never get to see the Lakers.
For just one old and small mischance,
He has to live in Paris, France.
He’s suffered slurs and other stuff.
Has he not suffered quite enough?
How can these people get so riled?
He only raped a single child.
Why make him into some Darth Vader
For sodomizing one eighth grader?
This man is brilliant, that’s for sure–
Authentically, a film auteur.
He gets awards that are his due.
He knows important people, too–
Important people just like us.
And we know how to make a fuss.
Celebrities would just be fools
To play by little people’s rules.
So Roman’s banner we unfurl.
He only raped one little girl.
So what does that have to do with Mao? Well, in David S.’s eyes, nobody should care about one little girl? What’s important is that Polanski is an artist. And who cares about millions starved and slaughtered – Mao wrote such eloquent Mandarin and had such wonderful vision. Priorities, people!
David S. is a complete moral nullity. One good thing about the Obama adminstration – now that the left is in power, its ugly lust for absolute power and complete contempt for ordinary people is becoming more and more evident each day. The backlash is coming. It will be huge.
You’re really this scared of opposing ideas? Oh well…good thing your readership is too dumb to use google…
I’m not scared of any “ideas” (I’m actually not scared of anything), but stupid people in the thrall of stupid ideas can do a lot of damage. Therefore, the moment it becomes evident that a person is in thrall to a stupid idea, it should be pointed out.
I guess in your ideal world, people who think Maoism (beyond the occasional apothegm) is a stupid idea should just ignore that fact. Well, your ideal world may work for you, but it sounds like a stupid ideal world to me.
THIS white house slut was trying to do nothing other than trying to draw a MORAL EQUIVALNCE between the communist mass muderer Mao Tse Tung and a real Catholic nun who ACTUALLY DID the things she took her vows to do. Mother Teresa actually HELPED the poor. Mao Tse Tung either murdered or let them STARVE to death. Anita (not very well) Dunn is more likely to take the Chairman Mao approach, given who she works for and who her pals are. Any bets shes like all the other far lefties, an LSD abuser in college whose mind was fried from too much illicit drug use?
Oh Anita-Id like to introduce you and your cohorts to two of my favorite “philosophers”- Smith and Wesson.
Donna V: “The cost of China’s bomb”
Yeah, if only . . . if only we hadn’t invaded Iraq, we could have:
Eliminate extreme poverty around the world (cost $135 billion in the first year, rising to $195 billion by 2015.)
Achieve universal literacy (cost $5 billion a year.)
Immunize every child in the world against deadly diseases (cost $1.3 billion a year.)
Ensure developing countries have enough money to fight the AIDS epidemic (cost $15 billion per year.
Paid for Universal Health Care right here at home, along with hiring thousands of cops and firefighters and other first responders.
But noooooo, Bush had to go into Iraq to avenge his Daddy. That’s the difference between liberals and conservatives. We want to help our citizens and the world, you want to play cowboys and indians.
#55 Middleman – Not hypocrisy at all. I read Gingrich’s comments you posted, and I hear his sense of humor shining through. It is called hyperbole. He likens the Congressional process as warfare. He’s exaggerating the nastiness… or maybe he’s not.
Get this, though, Middleman, Gingrich has a PhD in History. He knows full well how foul was Mao. This doesn’t mean he can’t quote him in a bit of snarkiness.
What gets me is that the Left automatically moves to defend these scumbags, no matter how vile their positions and pronouncements. Gotta defend Dunn. An attack on her tars Obama. It never occurs to them to clean up their house, because these scumbags are damaging their cause.
But, hey, keep it up, idiots. You may think we are always wrong, and so, rise to do battle, but mainstream America does not think we are always wrong. They share our revulsion at the thought of these scum and their vile views.
Oh, and keep attacking Beck! Every time you do, he takes another scalp! (That’s a great descriptor!) He gets stronger and stronger. He’s quickly becoming a giant-slayer. He is almost single-handedly bring down the Obama administration. The next President will need to give him a Freedom Medal. Don’t forget his NOBEL PRIZE for Journalism! Hahahahahahaha!
Anita will probably win this months “commie of the month” in the Obama wh. Past whiners have included Van Jones, Kevin(the Lemming) Jennings, See ass(Cass) Sunstein, and Harold(blow) Koh. If my running the numbers is correct, Im thin king you can have every commie be a repeat winner and still have enough to last for the next 7 years.
112. David S.
“Intentions aside, Mao’s philosophical contributions can be appreciated without condoning his policies. Just like any other philosopher.”
Adolf Hitler?
“I also appreciate the philosophical utterances of the founding fathers, unhampered by the fact that they held slaves, subjugated women, and killed and imprisoned millions of native Americans. They had “good intentions,” after all. And their ideas are noble despite their ignoble acts.”
Was humankind, in general, in the same place morally in the late 18th century as compared to the mid 20th century?
Are you denying that moral progression towards different moral values is possible?
@120. Donna V.:
You’re already indicated that you believe the elites should be able to do as they wish with “the little people,” as evidenced by your support of a child rapist.
I can’t help it if you don’t understand the concept of a plea bargain. Support for the rule of law is not support of a child rapist. Although the Catholic church might support and defend child rapists – I do not. But thanks for the poem!
So what does that have to do with Mao? Well, in David S.’s eyes, nobody should care about one little girl? What’s important is that Polanski is an artist. And who cares about millions starved and slaughtered – Mao wrote such eloquent Mandarin and had such wonderful vision. Priorities, people!
Ah, yes, we must stay on topic. Polanski’s art has nothing to do with the administration of justice in this case, other than making him an attractive dart board for the press. The little girl has already moved on with her life, and Polanski met the terms of the plea bargain. Case closed.
As to the millions starved and slaughtered – yes, I do care. I am not defending the policies of Mao. Just hoping to elucidate the distinction between political philosophy and politics in action. One can admire his utterances, without admiring his other facets. Are such distinctions really lost on you?
David S. is a complete moral nullity. One good thing about the Obama adminstration – now that the left is in power, its ugly lust for absolute power and complete contempt for ordinary people is becoming more and more evident each day. The backlash is coming. It will be huge.
Absolute power meaning of course respect for the rule of law, improved health care for all, a renewed commitment to diplomacy, education and development, and support for the fundamental freedoms protected by our Constitution.
The backlash is still ongoing against the previous administration, which actually manifested claims of absolute power in policy and action, evincing true contempt for ordinary people by depriving them of their rights. The most fundamental of all rights – the right to petition the government for redress. You want to talk about absolute power? Check yourself.
Peace.
DS
So, was Joe McCarthy right after all?
Does ANYONE on teh rights know what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean? Any clue at all?
Probably unwittingly, this person actually asked an interesting question that made me think about how to define political positions that have moved from simply theories on a page to action. My own anecdotal evidence is that the Left would like the non-Left to restrict its definition of things like Communism to simply what the “original founders” intended (the ironic echo here of their exact opposite position vis-a-vis the US Constitution is not lost on me), from Marx through pre-Bolshevik Revolution theorists. In addition to those authors, authors whose form of Communism never came to power (e.g., Frankfurt School, Gramsci, Hardt & Negri) are also “allowed” because, again, they are primarily words on a page and cannot be mapped back to a political reality. Also, any “ideas” in Communist theory that have some resemblance to ideas in the Judeo-Christian ethical tradition (e.g. Communism as a form of “love thy neighbor”) or the Enlightenment (e.g. Communism as the ultimate “rational” organization of society), can also be “allowed” as part of the definition of Communism.
In other words, the Left completely whitewashes the empirical history of Communism AND obfuscates the theoretical history so that authors like Stalin are excluded from the canon, taking advantage of the historical, geographical and ideological remove of the typical Western recruit for “useful idiocy” to feed them a false, but useful, vision of Communism.
Meanwhile, people on the Right point not to the words on the page from an “approved” set of Communist authors, but the historical and theoretical totality of Communism, and rightly conclude that it is one of the worst calamities to ever happen to the human race (again, notwithstanding the occasional witty aphorism of general applicability from a Communist author). To be fair, there is an anti-Communist Left that does this as well (although one must be wary because there is also a Communist Left that mimics the anti-Communist Left’s denunciations of Communism, but proposes policies that are identical to what a Communist would propose in the early stages of a Communist take-over. This is where much of the Western ‘hard Left’ resides. Being the scum that they are, they have no problem lying about their ultimate goals), as well as a small faction of truly intellectually honest Communists (the people who wrote the best book on the crimes of Communism, “The Black Book of Communism”, were themselves Communists).
Of the two approaches, only the Right’s (and some of the Left’s) approach is conducive to a mature and somber reflection on the reality of Communism, while the majority of the Left’s exists in what Aristophanes would call “Cloud Cookoo-Land”, far removed from what actually happens when a Communist movement goes from theory to practice.
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Do you really think those things would have happened if the Iraq War wasn’t happening? On what evidence would you base that?
That’s like me saying, “If Tom Brady wasn’t getting paid $10 million dollars a year, the administrative assistants at the Patriots headquarters would each be making $50K more per year”.
That’s not how resource allocation works in the real world. I know you like to fancy yourself so connected to reality, but it’d be nice if you actually posted some evidence of that once in a while.
I case anyone hasn’t already flagged this:
* Anita Dunn is married with Robert Bauer, who is a partner at Perkins Coie, Washington DC .
* Perkins Coie represents the Occidental College (Los Angeles), opposing Gary Bauer’s request for access at Obama’s financial and other records during his career at Occi (apparently mister Obama was enrolled at Occidental as a foreign citizen, on a Fullbright scholarship for foreigners).
This crew sure fights a war of their own – and with interesting ramifications.
But Maoism and other forms of Marxism are truly bad ideas. We should use the enforcement mechanisms of social norms, such as mockery, to drive them from typical discourse.
I think we should take a page from that other ideology to whose *ss Leftists’ lips are firmly affixed, Islam, and force Marxists to “convert to capitalism, pay the jizya (we could call it a “stupidity tax”) or die”. I’d happily volunteer my services for this task.
I can’t help it if you don’t understand the concept of a plea bargain.
And you don’t understand the concept of “fugitive from justice.” Fortunately, most people aren’t that obtuse, which is why Polanski is sitting in a Swiss jail right now and has an excellent chance of being deported.
I brought up Polanski because it is another illustration of your absolute indifference to the sufferings of human beings if the people doing the victimizing are Leftists or members of the cultural elite. You are a moral nullity.
DeGisi
Mocking people for a lack of critical thinking is a bad idea when your post so easily falls prey to a few seconds of critical thinking itself.
Here’s one for you, you crazy little critical thinker you…when George W. Bush referred to the rich as “my base”, was he truly saying that he only represented the rich? I mean, when he said that he preferred to think of the rich as “my base” he might have actually been saying that the rich were his base. Is there a reason why I shouldn’t believe that. After all, at no point in his speech did he make an effort to go back and claim that was a joke. Critical thinking indeed, what a joke…
N and T gives us the all-purpose leftist rebuttal: “Wahhhhh! What about Bush!!!”
It’s the leftist two-step, folks. “One, two, blame Bush, three, four, scream racist! Repeat, repeat, repeat!”
A dance so easy any cabbagehead can do it, as N & T illustrates.
Again, here’s a conservative with a functioning cortex on the issue:
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/10/16/anita-dunn-mao-tse-tung-fan
The more significant problem with interpreting this clip as evidence that Dunn is a revolutionary communist is that it lacks context. Beck played three or so full minutes of the clip on his show, but even so there are still possible mitigating circumstances.
For instance, it’s possible that it’s such a friendly and ideologically-attuned audience that Dunn thinks she can get away with making fine points about Mao without being questioned on the larger point that she deplores him as a communist dictatory. It’s entirely possible — I’ve certainly been at events where liberals feel comfortable enough with the audience to discuss the effiencies of communist health care systems without first bothering to disclaim communism’s atrocities. Similarly, I’ve heard conservatives praise South American dictators for implementing certain free-market reforms without mentioning at the same time that they appreciate that the people they’re talking about were in fact dictators.
The other problem is that, as far as I’m aware, there’s no other information out there that suggests that Anita Dunn is the kind of person who would talk about Mao’s achievements, let alone be a secret communist sympathizer.
125. Marc Malone,
Beck a giant slayer? That cry-on-cue fat monkey, Please. Beck is just a crazy clone of Alex Jones with a bit more television appeal.
I’m not out to defend the left, I’m out for truth, and the truth in my opinion is that Fox is currently unloading a great deal of misinformation, and many so-called patriots are willing to help send this nation down the crapper, as a means to end to satisfy their own narcissism.
Dunn quoted Mao, that’s it. We don’t know what the lead-up was because Fox New/Beck just so happened to leave that out. Most likely because it would have made their position on this quote baseless.
Get a clue, then get a life.
veni:
While I am a libertarian on certain issues, I am far from being an unqualifed admirer of Ayn Rand.
However, I think she was right in believing that “liberal” and “conservative” were inaccurate terms. She thought “statist” and “anti-statist” were more precise.
When you place people on a statist -anti-statist continuum, it’s pretty clear that both Fascists and Communists are at the statist extreme. American liberalism has long been infamous for seeing no enemies on the left and has moved closer and closer to the statist extreme since the 1960′s. Unfortunately, the GOP has also become more statist and repeated trouncing at the polls have not served to wake the leadership up. Statism gives massive power to politicians and many with “R’s” after their names are as tempted by the lure of power as the Dems.
I fear Bush made a mistake when he said all human beings long for freedom. The truth is that many humans will gladly relinquish freedom for security and the nanny state. So they are willing to let other humans who lust for power to run roughshod over them. They’re quite content to be sheep as long as they get their crumbs from Big Brother.
Lastly, isn’t it interesting that the trolls become enraged when bambi’s crew are called out and criticized for things they actually said? The left has to invent Limbaugh “quotes” to smear him. We hammer Dunn for something she indisputably said, and they go into a rage rationalizing her stupid statement.
124 Now and Then:
good point: these damn wars and chasing Nazi prison camp guards and child rapists to bring them to justice are wasting a lot of money. That’s the only real issue.
112 David S: you are a man of good will. I sense it. Not as weirdly twisted as vivo. But somewhere you lost a chip or something.
Mao was not a philosopher, merely one of the latest homicidal manics to take command a large contry by force and justify suppression and murder of millions as “good” for everyone else. He was a communist and his philosophy is purely communist. There is nothing unique about about him: but for the size and rich history of China, which gave him a gloss of respectability, he’s really no more than pol pot.
Why do you lefties admire people like Stalin and Mao? Does it bother you so much that people get to make their own choices in soap, news, books, employment etc that you think people like Mao are somehow less than evil?
Are individuals not important? Is repression of individuals not bad? How can it be good? How can you be neutral about people who slaughtered millions of their own people in the name of the State?
Polanski is nother weird instance of you tilting to a bizzare object that does not deserve your loyalty. he raped a kid. he admitted it rather than go to trial and risk a verdict of outraged citizens. He fled. everyone knows judges are not bound by plea bargains. He is as accountable today as a nazy death camp guard or financial crook that fled the US (oops. Clinton pardoned Marc Rich)
Please come to your senses. “There is a strong streak of good in you” David S. Don’t waste it on bad people.
DS @112; I see you all over PJM putting forth tidbits of information to support your arguments, and when called oput, you say things like “Oh, sure Donna. As if you know how many years I’ve studied Mandarin. And you call me pretentious!” Or about climate change, or economics, or history or any other subject you claim to have so much knowledge of, yet you never actually say what your education level is in mandarin, or climate change, or economics, or history or any other subject you claim to have so much knowledge of! If you’re self-educated, that’s admirable, though I think you’re reading the wrong stuff. If you’re still a student, as would likely be necessary to acheive such mastery of so many disparate subjects, you should get your money back and step into the real world.
Being able to quote from some monster’s writings is a far cry from saying you admire and draw inspiration from them.
middleman @138; She said she turns to them for inspiration! Insiration! Hardly as benign as “Dunn quoted Mao, that’s it.” Talking about a lead up is an attempt to contextualize when the quote is quite able to stand alone.
142 nolan,
Inspiration, yes. Look that word up, but while you’re there, look up irony as well, because she was being ironic.
From Moho’s link:
Dunn initially juxtaposes the two to make it a joke. “Not often coupled with each other,” she says, to a few laughs. Dave Weigel thinks the whole thing’s a joke that everyone but Glenn Beck gets.
At that point in the video, it is clearly a joke. But then Dunn goes into a somewhat long history of Mao and Chiang Kai Shek in 1947 that’s a little bit too bright, and a little too hagiographic. It suggests that she was in fact not joking that Mao is one of her favorite political philosophers. The joke was the juxtaposition between him and Mother Teresa, not her beliefs. Her love of Mao’s political philosophy, unfortunately, doesn’t seem to be one of the speech’s jokes.
Each individual watching the clip will have to decide if the author is correct in judging that Dunn is a bit too enthusiastic about Mao’s actual political activities or not.
As for the idea that the audience was “ideologically-attuned” and that somehow allows Dunn to dispense with prefacing her remarks, they were high school kids, by all accounts. Unless one assumes their daily banter contains “Juno”-esque witty references to the Chinese civil war, one doubts they even know who Mao is or think he’s one of the guys after whom chicken dishes are named at the local Chinese restaurant. Seems like a stretch in this context to attribute that level of political sophistication to the audience.
139
However, I think she was right in believing that “liberal” and “conservative” were inaccurate terms. She thought “statist” and “anti-statist” were more precise.
Yes, my one minor issue with that is that I do believe that there are true “public goods” that only the state can provide. The problem over the past 100-150 years, not just in the US, but all over the world, has been an enormous expansion of the things that are considered to come under that heading. Some of it was driven by technology and economies of scale, no doubt. Even in today’s health care debate we see the echos of that in talk about “bending the cost curve” by using the negotiating power of a single-payer system to drive down pricing power of providers. The problem with this sort of framing of the issue, from a free-market perspective, is that the government having such power is simply an inversion of the sorts of monopoly power that anti-trust laws are designed to remove from the marketplace, only the government is a monopsonist. There are markets (most specifically, defense) where tradition, and prudence, make this sort of monopsony power a reasonable kind of “statism”, but arguing that power should be extended to every conceivable market is highly dubious.
RE #141/ nolan: [...] Being able to quote from some monster’s writings is a far cry from saying you admire and draw inspiration from them. [...]
Nolan, I would normaly agree with you – yet I think that if we refine this incident in the following manner, we will return to the prevailing sense that this was at least a bizzare choice:
Comrade Mao’s philosophical work is collection of worthless platitudes in which Bill Ayres’ ilk found an (inexistent) fountainhead of Chines wisdom and daring revolutionary thought – actually a long list of observations of fortune cookies’ profondity.
And Dunn’s unfortunate quote “I’ll fight my war, you fight your war,” and her further rumminations on Mao’s extraordinary insight should go near some old Monty Python outtakes.
Yet, while Anita Dunn sure could have find something else worth quoting and riffing upon in matters political or military for that occasion, say, from… Marcus Aurelius to Clausewitz to Toynbee to… you name them, she preferred to come with this curious Mao choice.
And here I see the problem – why did Anita Dunn, I’d say reflexively so, go for the lefties’ 1960-70 Pantheon instead of chosing a better serving historical figure?
And why this type of situation constantly happens around Obama and his associates, why their system of referrence is completely oriented towards/ nurtured by Marxist and anti-American figures & events?
And this is actually the issue that irks so many here and elsewhere – is this Obama crew indeed a materialization of the Port Huron gathering & manifesto?
The Obamistas quack like a Port Huron battalion, they walk like a Port Huron battalion, they talk like a Port Huron battalion, they act like a Port Huron battalion – and should we believe that they’re just a bunch of peaceful stamps collectors?
Beck, secret admirer of Mao:
Goldwater “alter ego” said he “followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung”
Shadegg: “[I]n all … campaigns where I have served as consultant I have followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung.” In his 1964 essay “The Paranoid Style in American Politics,” Richard Hofstadter wrote that Stephen C. Shadegg, adviser to Sen. Barry Goldwater during his senatorial and presidential campaigns, approvingly cited Mao and quoted him, saying that he “followed the advice of Mao” while working for Goldwater and in his other campaign work:
In his recent book, How to Win an Election, Stephen C. Shadegg cites a statement attributed to Mao Tse-tung: “Give me just two or three men in a village and I will take the village.” Shadegg comments: ” In the Goldwater campaigns of 1952 and 1958 and in all other campaigns where I have served as consultant I have followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung.” “I would suggest,” writes senator Goldwater in Why Not Victory? “that we analyze and copy the strategy of the enemy; theirs has worked and ours has not. (Harper’s Magazine, November 1964)
In its obituary of Shadegg, The New York Times described him as “a political campaign manager who was regarded as the alter ego of Senator Barry Goldwater in the Senator’s unsuccessful quest for the Presidency in 1964.“The Times also reported that Shadegg “for three years wrote a nationally syndicated newspaper column that carried Senator Goldwater’s byline,” “served as Western regional director of the Goldwater forces” during his 1964 presidential campaign, and “was acknowledged as the person closest to the Senator in philosophy and as the craftsman of the Goldwater image as a staunch conservative.” (The New York Times, 5/24/1990)
Beck has repeatedly called on Republicans to “get back to the conservative roots of Barry Goldwater.” In two editions of his CNN Headline News program during October 2006, Beck called on Republicans to return to the practice of “Barry Goldwater” conservatism.
* Beck: “If the Republicans want to win this or any election, they need to get back to the conservative roots of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. They need to say what they mean and mean what they say. They need to do the right thing. And when I say right, I don’t mean like, oops, right, it’s the opposite of left. No, I mean right as in the opposite of wrong.” (CNN Headline News’ Glenn Beck, 10/26/06, retrieved from the Nexis database)
* Beck: “I also know that both parties need to change soon or else. The Republicans better find their soul and their roots, and Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater conservativism — conservativism, or they will lose any advantage — that was easy for me to say — any advantage they have gained over the years. The Democrats will either shed their label as the party of Hollywood elitists and people who stand next to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela for a photo op — hello, Cindy Sheehan — or they will destroy themselves, as well.” (CNN Headline News’ Glenn Beck, 10/30/06, from Nexis)
All I can say is that you people love making fools of your selves. Thanks for the laugh Self-Pwnage Media.
From men like James Madison to Maoists like Anita Dunn?!-not good…not good at all.
Jeremiah Wright. William Ayers. Van Jones. Jennings.Now this?
They are Obama’s inner circle.They are with him from the beginning.They are just getting bolder just waiting for the right moment to come out of hiding.
The administrations headed by this president
is just perfect for their kinds.
Are you a sheep or a goat? All of them will hopefully show themselves for us to know.
Between Mother Theresa and Mao?
Caught in between.They all have no direction.
Divide and destroy are the only thing they do best.
People,behold your President’s inner circle,
6666666666666666666………..
Thanks for pointing out the difference between a conservative commentator with a brain, such as Lawler, and this moronic bow-tie wearing Republican water-boy. Lawler considers both sides of the argument before coming to a conclusion. Indeed, he falls on the Dunn’s side, simply because it makes the most sense in the context of the issue. Its you who’ve chosen to align yourself with dipsh^ts like Kimball, wearing a conservative costumes while they seek to undermine any logic that the conservative movement could have called its own before the emergence of homage to ignorance as its underlying philosophy.
“So, we have a self-professed admirer of Mao Tse-Tung in a top job at the White House. Where does it end? Where?”
Not where. When. 2012.
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[...]such a friendly and ideologically-attuned audience[...]
Yes, if only we all had an audience of High Schoolers to rant on about our love of dictators.
the left loves mass murderers. che, their hero was a sociopath who got off on killing people. the only mass murderer that they do not idolize, is pol pot. why? because pol pot went after them, and killed worthless people like them in a slaughter of educated and liberal elite.
#80 Moho
“Yeah, telling young people to follow their own path, that’s criminal.”
Not quite, Moho. Paying her with our money to go around mouthing platitudes to young people is what’s criminal.
112. David S:
Oh, sure Donna. As if you know how many years I’ve studied Mandarin. And you call me pretentious!
You are correct that neither Donna , nor any other commenter here, has any idea whether or not you have studied Mandarin. However, you have given evidence of being pretentious independent of the issue of studying Mandarin. Here you state:
. I would agree that the founding fathers, being human , were not also saints. The last founding father to hold significant power in the government was James Monroe, who was President from 1817-1825. The population of the US in 1790 was nearly 4 million, and increased to 9 million by 1820 with immigration and the Louisiana Purchase. You claim that millions were “”killed or imprisoned” by 1825, the last year that one of the founding fathers held significant politcal power, does not make sense. The numbers do not add up. When you make an ignorant statement, claiming to enlighten us knuckle draggers, you come across as pretentious.
Let us consider one of your statements on Chairman Mao.
We can separate the Beethoven had difficulty relating to people, but he was still a great composer. author from his works. Faulkner and Hemingway were alcoholics, but great writers.
When we get to the issue of political philosophy and Mao Tse Tung, we have to take into account the application of his philosophy during his years in power from 1949 to 1976. What you call “his policies” are simply applications of his philosophy. Political philosophy is created to apply to the real world. As such, when a given political Recall some old chestnuts , such as “the proof of the pudding is in the tasting,” or “by their fruits ye shall know them.” philosophy is applied to the real world, that is the best test of it. The proof of the Maoist pudding is his record from 1949-1976. When the political philospher himself is creating policy, you cannot separate his philosophy from his policy. The results of his policies show the results of his philosophies.
Correction:
We can separate the author of the work from the work.Beethoven had difficulty relating to people, but he was still a great composer. author from his works. Faulkner and Hemingway were alcoholics, but great writers.
I think we are all missing the big picture here…
Maybe ol’ lizard tongue is actually a here and she’s trying to tell us that “How to serve man” is ‘A cookbook’!
How to ‘serve’ man. Socialism/Marxism/Communism
So apropos.
You’re cooked.
Moho,
Hmmm. Apparently you think critical thinking is changing the subject and then rewording your points, without adding any new information, failing to respond to the arguments made against them and insulting people.
I’m underwhelmed.
Yours,
Tom DeGisi
Degisi:
A lesson in critical thinking.
If you are arguing A for Dunn, then you must also argue A for Bush. This is not changing the subject, but forcing you to admit that your point is biased, i.e., you support holding Dunn at face value for her comments, but no Bush. You people have a lot of trouble with this concept, apparently, because you are not accustomed to using the same set of principles equally to all issues or people. Its not the first time I’ve had to point out the difference between changing the subject and pointing out a flaw in logic by offering a similar example. Its sad, really.
moho: too many quick quotes for just a person pitching forth his or her thoughts on a thread. you gave up the ghost by showing who you really are which is a plant from either CAP/MM or Kos.
Really doesn’t matter because for me it shows you are just a tool. you have neither the intellectual capacity nor the inherent creativity to debate here on your own.
everything you and DS have written has not been your own. you are a fake just like the ideology you defend. an ideology for of lies, delusions, double speak and other Orwellian thought control and illogiic. an ideology of oppression, control and death.
so keep defending it while you can. there will be a back lash and it will be driven by Americans who want their nation back.
There are those who found Dunn’s comments lip-smackingly good.
The fundamental disconnect between those who are dismayed that a White House official cites Mao as “a favorite philosopher” and those who think it’s not a big deal at all is based on rather clear sets of personal beliefs held by the both sides. The defenders -quite smug in their self-perception as political and philosophical sophisticates- will invariably turn a blind eye to 80 years of horrific consequences of communist/totalitarian ideology in practice. Similarly they will excuse it as merely a poor implementation of a fundamentally good set of ideas. Anita Dunn probably falls in to that camp. Of course, such people tend to believe hell is a good system that happens to be run by bad people.
One not so distant anecdote via Mark Steyn: The NYT Times ran a feature story on 9/10/2001 about a NYC group retirement home for elderly communist party members who had their heyday in the 1930′s. Portraits and busts of Stalin adorned the common sitting room. The residents were interviewed and allowed to wax nostalgic for the good old days of party activism and the grand dream of a workers’ paradise. The tone of the article was unabashedly sentimental and utterly unquestioning of the communist party doctrine and its true believers. You got the clear impression the writer thought the old folks were cute.
Imagine this NYT story being written about a retirement home for former Nazi Party members. Nah, forget it – it would never happen.
Back to the present: imagine if a Bush administration official had given a speech citing some favorite axioms from Adolf Hitler, Naturally everyone – particularly the political/philosophical sophisticates and the poltical editors of the media would pass it off as not a big deal- after all, Hitler may have done some bad things but some of his philosophical utterings had universal merit to them and deserve to be aired and discussed.
Nah- it would never happen.
DaveM
What do communism, Maoism and Stalinism mean? What are you, stupid? They mean mass murder, slavery, starvation and terror. And they don’t mean anything else. That’s why people like Anita Dunn and Barack Obama worhsip them: they want the power to do murder, slavery, starvation and terror.
If you think that these “ideas” mean anything else, well, you have a hundred years of history to sort through to find it. Good effing luck. Waiting to hear back.
There is a huge difference in studying people like Mao and Hitler so that the world can learn how to avoid and defeat such monsters, and individuals like Anita Dunn who actually ADMIRE sick bastards like Mao. If liberals and people today can’t see the difference, then those are the same people who will end up with another Mao or Hitler. Remember, Hitler was always a national SOCIALIST. Hitler probably would have admired Mao, just like a homicidal maniac would admire a serial killer. But what troubles me the most is that nowhere, nowhere in Anita Dunn’s speech did she mention a great American political thinker or statesman, like John Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, or Washington. That is probably the worst part of what she did and she also did a disservice to the high school students she was talking to by not mentioning any of those great American thinkers. No, she held up Mao to these kids as an example of a political role model. She should not only be fired immediately, she should be prevented from ever being part of the US Federal Governmet for the rest of her miserable life. What scum.
Furthermore, the Right is using the Left’s own words to destroy them; Glenn Beck put a spotlight on this Communist Mao lover. Nothing more. Why is she is White House? President Obama is a rigid radical ideologue; he acts like Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, & every other revolutionary Marxist before him–not the POTUS. The Left cannot defend this woman. All they can do is obfuscate & try to change the subject. However, the Sleeping Giant is wide awake & does not want a Hammer & Sickle are part of out US government.
One great advantage offered to America by Obama’s clique of thug czars is that it is now possible to attack and perhaps lame his presidency by exposing them one by one. They are all of the same make and a consistent strategy must be followed to get each one of them exposed and removed from office, like Van Jones. If this strategy will succeed we’ll reach the point when Obama is left alone and then the full force of attack should be directed at him. For he is the one who appointed all these thugs.
@161. blotto:
there will be a back lash and it will be driven by Americans who want their nation back.
Do you really want to hurt me?
Peace.
DS
You give the leftist liberals and Democraps far too much credit. They are indeed this radical and crazy. That’s why I left that deranged political ideology and became a right wing conservative Republican. I’ll take a few rednecks and NWO types any day over those leftist Che/Castro/Stalin/Viet Cong/Stalin/Mao/taliban worshipping nutjobs. At least rednecks and ultra-isolationist types still love their country and believe in traditional values.
Michael…”row the boat ashore”…but we hopefully it sinks as you and your ilk drown in a sea of lies and ignorance. You pitiful putz.
“”"”"” 165. Libertyship46:
. . . . . But what troubles me the most is that nowhere, nowhere in Anita Dunn’s speech did she mention a great American political thinker or statesman, like John Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, or Washington. That is probably the worst part of what she did and she also did a disservice to the high school students she was talking to by not mentioning any of those great American thinkers. “”"”"”"
Seriously, couldn’t she have used Washington on the eve of crossing the Delaware or something?
Sorry….I just had to do the typo thing…hear here!
I agree..that is one coked up old broad.
Michael at #27- Your arguments are absurd and since you can’t win a true debate you resort to name calling. Nothing new from the left. Instead of only reading Huffpo and The Daily Kos, try opening your mind (TRY!!!) and read Liberal Fascism. I’m sure you’ll dismiss it right away because that’s who you are, but you really should get educated about the left. The left believes in the power of the state. The right believes in the power of the individual. Now who’s the fascist? Conservatives believe in less government and the left believes in totalitarian government. We’re seeing it played out under this current, massively corrupt administration. Richard Nixon would blush.
You lash out like the left always lashes out- by projecting. In the words of Whitaker Chambers- “Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks, guilt does.”
Conservatives don’t admire Stalin (aka Uncle Joe), Mussolini, Mao, Chavez, Castro, Gueverra, but the left sure does. That’s indisputable. Conservatives admire Washington, Adams, Franklin, etal. I’ll take our heroes over the left’s heroes any day of the week.
#146 Misanthropicus
You nailed it. Great comment
Anita Dunn, aka Passionaria, Mao Tze Dun priestess, married w/ Robert Bauer who is a partner in Perkins & Coie, Obama’s lawyers (in the Obama BC/presidential (i)legitimacy issue – see post # 132)
Birther or not, one cannot be but a bit struck (again) by another coincidence -
From Daily Post & Mail/ John Charlton/Oct.17,2009 -
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[...] UNIMAGINABLE, UNBELIEVABLE, OUTRAGEOUS MOVE -
“In a stunning blow to the impartiality of the American Judicial system, Federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case Barnett vs. Obama, has just hired a lawyer who works for a law firm where Robert F. Bauer, one of Obama’s top lawyers is a partner. And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss [...]
Siddharth Velamoor is the lawyer chosen by Carter to serve as one of his two official clerks, from Oct. 1, 2009, till Sept. 30, 2010, according to Wikipedia. Velamoor is listed as an associate with Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Seattle, Washington. [...]”
* More on Daily Post & Mail *
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Where is all the talk about “even the slightest appearence of improperty blah-blah-blah…?
There are markets (most specifically, defense) where tradition, and prudence, make this sort of monopsony power a reasonable kind of “statism”, but arguing that power should be extended to every conceivable market is highly dubious.
I agree with your quibble, veni. Very well stated.
That it’s so “in” to be a Communist now just amazes me. The Commies have come out of the closet. Problem is, one is in the White House today.
http://animal-farm.us/change/communist-in-chief-705
…. more on Obama’s interesting associates:
Timothy F. Geithner is generally viewed as a Wall Street figure (or dilligent cog) – however, he’s a person with a certain internationalist, 3′rd World past and interests:
Mister Geithner’s father (Peter F. Geithner), is still the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York – and during the 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation’s microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by… Ann Dunham-Soetoro, mother of …. Barack Obama… and during the travels entamed by that endeavor, the kids met more than once, opportunity to talk oppression and assess each other’s potential…
Apparently this Obama Potemkiniade has been set up long ago, and the props, extras, supporting & main characters carefully selected -
When the political philospher himself is creating policy, you cannot separate his philosophy from his policy. The results of his policies show the results of his philosophies.
Bingo, Gringo! Admiring Mao’s political philosophy is not akin to admiring the bon mots of Oscar Wilde. The man applied his philosophy to a country and millions died as a result.
David S. [troll 3.0], is the lowest scum on the earth.
You have been warned.
OT: Women who are moist for mao are tongue tied.
Isn’t it ironic, that Anita Dunn is babbling away about Chairman Mao, with a Christian cross just to the right of the screen? Mao’s Communist revolution did more to destroy the Christian church in China than any other factor in the history of that troubled land. Even the most restrained estimates of Mao’s death toll are OVER 10 million people, with many estimates in excess of 50 million. THIS is the political ‘philosopher’ that the Interim White House Communications Director holds in such high esteem? Don’t look for her to depart from Comrade 0bama’s staff any time soon, her husband is the President’s personal lawyer. Senator Joe McCarthy warned us about Communist subversion in 1950, but nobody was paying attention. How about now?
I’m wondering how and when it will all begin? When it will it all manifest itself that we are not…nor have we ever been a passive people. MaoBama underestimates too many of us. As we are willing to engage an enemy in Iraq, Pakistan or Afghanistan….MaoBama needs to know…we are ready to engage him right here…right now. Let the games begin in earnest. The survival of this Republic has never been more jeopardized since 1/20/2009.
39. David S.
“Quite inspiring actually. You don’t have to be a Mao fan to appreciate the brevity and wit – of course, he’s a bit more clever in Mandarin.”
Are 50 million deaths more clever in Mandarin?
42. biblio44.
“That’s nothing. I have a list of 48 card-carrying commies in the State Department!”
Could there be more?
55. Middleman.
“Gingrich quotes Mao too.”
Is everybody allowed to quote Mao?
73. Now and Then.
68. misanthropicus:
“ping. ping. ping . . Respond to query from homebase . . . ping. ping . . . native communique demands ping back from agent thropilicus . . . implant requires servicing . . . ping. ping . . . fractured syntax risks revealing true genetics . . . digital earwig now prime transponder . . . ping. ping . . . blue air . . . ping. ping . . . “
What’s the freakuency Now and Then?
80. Moho.
“Yeah, telling young people to follow their own path, that’s criminal.”
Is telling Conservatives to follow their own path criminal?
95. biblio44.
“And to think that Roger Simon thought I was kidding when I said the current Right is a direct descendant of the John Birch Society.”
And the left is a direct descendent of… a monkey?
102. Moho.
“You’re really this scared of opposing ideas? Oh well…good thing your readership is too dumb to use google…”
Could they be too smart to Moho? Is the Moho a dance?
112. David S.
“And you call me pretentious!”
Could you please be a little more pretentious?
124. Now and Then.
“We want to help our citizens and the world, you want to play cowboys and indians.”
Your citizens? Don’t you own the cowboy and indians too?
137. Moho.
“The more significant problem with interpreting this clip as evidence that Dunn is a revolutionary communist is that it lacks context.”
Could 50 million murders be a “context”?
147. Moho.
“Beck, secret admirer of Mao:”
Who do you secretly admire? Beck? Jeff or Glenn, or just Beck?
150. Moho.
“Its you who’ve chosen to align yourself with dipsh^ts like Kimball, wearing a conservative costumes…”
Will you be vivo for Halloween? Blue lipstick, short dress, no underpants and Modern Liberal unshaven legs?
159. Moho.
“Its not the first time I’ve had to point out the difference between changing the subject and pointing out a flaw in logic by offering a similar example. Its sad, really.”
Are you god? Or something? Or just Now and Then?
168. David S.
“Do you really want to hurt me?”
Are you Boy David?
#147 Moho – Let me get this straight. Goldwater’s campaign manager, the guy who has to fight the war to win, said he admires Mao’s successful military tactics. Mao was very effective in war, no doubt. The largest pocketing of troops in history was done by Mao, some 649,000 enemy troops taken. Massive victory. His tactics and strategies were effective. So were those of the Khans, and the Huns, and so on. Recognizing their brilliance in war is a far cry from embracing their POLITICAL philosophy.
So, you make the absurd leap that Beck is a secret Maoist, because he appreciated the POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY of Goldwater, because Goldwater’s CAMPAIGN MANAGER appreciated the MILITARY prowess of Mao? What a ridiculous chain of evidence for your “J’accuse!”
So, tell me, from which Leftist site did you get this anti-Beck propoganda, as well as all the other things your type cut and paste here? Seriously, Beck is an opinion journalist. He is upfront about this. He is devastatingly effective, and his ratings reflect this. Not being able to counter his arguments, you attack the messenger. I know jobs are scarce these days, but this is beneath the dignity of a man.
I missed this pearl from Matthew earlier:
Does ANYONE on teh rights know what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean? Any clue at all?
Gee, Matt, yeah, it looks like we all think communism really sucks. Don’t know where we got that crazy idea from. 100 million people died under Communist regimes during the 20th century, but gee, we’re just not getting the nuances, I suppose.
Why don’t you pop on over to the comments section of the PJM article written by Oleg Atbashian and tell an ex-citizen of the old USSR he really doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. ‘Cause it’s people like Oleg Atbashian that give us wingnuts the idea that Communism really isn’t a lot of fun.
John McCain’s a Maoist too, OH NOESSSSSSS!
“You know Michael, in the words of Chairman Mao, it’s always darkest before it’s totally black…” – John McCain (The Weekly Standard) http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/07/mccain_blogger_call.asp
“In the words of Chairman Mao, it’s always darkest before it’s black,” McCain cracked. He said this while surrounded by a crush of perhaps 30 or 40 reporters”(The New Republic) http://bit.ly/1P5lMn
“”I think we had some difficulties and righted the ship,” McCain told Letterman. “For a while there, I was reminded of the words of Chairman Mao, who said it’s always darkest before it’s totally black.” (NPR) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89511940
Michael wrote:
“It would be like me saying to you, ‘you know who my favorite political philosopher is? Adolf Hitler.’ Have you read Mein Kampf? …” Beck said.
When I heard Glenn say that, I thought “Glenn that is going to be taken out of context by the left” – like you did, Michael.
The preceding comment was “Mao is her favorite philosopher?? – a man who killed 70 million people!!” which puts his comment into perspective.
Having already said in earlier comments that he considered Hitler insane – shame on you, Michael, but entirely typical of the left to besmirch with out-of-context quotes.
I know lots and lots of well meaning people with truly bad ideas.
Isn’t this the deiscription of “progressivism” in a nut shell?
@104 — Matthew
“Does ANYONE on teh rights know what communism/stalinism/maoism actually mean? Any clue at all?”
Yes. I’ve read the Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. I suggest that you read, too, so that you will know what communism/stalinism/maoism is about.
Cheers!
OK, so i see that it is time for a lesson from me and DS and Michael. We do want power, but you want power too! Bush got power but he did nothing with it! So yes, we HATE Bush because he debased power. Power is our GOD. It must be revered. You can NOT use it to give as charity to Africa! That was wrong.
Today we celbrate that another of our family has come out of the troll closet and can finally reveal her true name: “Anita Dunn”. Her troll name was YellowJoy. We celebrate her liberation – and it WILL be a hate crime to hate people like us.
As soon as we molt our carapaces we can be the beautiful butterfly that Anita has now become. She appears to have taken the form of a Butterfly with a Snake body. Magnificent. Something to be expected from the proto-Demi God Elite.
Oh, Donna V. You seem like a good lass. Perhaps you should join the insect hive mind and become one with… THE ONE…
If you refuse… don’t fall asleep… watch out for the pod people.
That tongue thrusting reminds me of a snake in the grass. A slithering, deceptive snake.
168. Not really, but we will if you make us. We know you’re just a pathetic fool, but if you get involved, you’ll be dangerous.
Dave M:
“To Dearest Matthew”
I’m sure you don’t mean that
“I was in East Berlin in June 1989 and Cuba in February 2004, but I would really like your insights. Please, do tell.”
Good for you. But someone with your direct experience shouldn’t need to ask. In theory, socialism/communism is the elimination of private property and direct management of production by the state (to simplify somewhat). In practice, it usually leads to widespread surveillance of people’s private activities, squashing of dissident ideas and publications, a corrupt police and judicial system to punish and remove enemies of the regime and personal incomes that are completely disconnected from merit or productivity (or even supply or demand).
NONE of that is evident in today’s america, nor in any proposals currently put forward by barack obama. Seeing a role for government in providing health insurance is not socialism – there might be a word for it, but socialism isn’t it. Socialism is not a 2% increase in personal income tax. It’s not the creation of a new regulation or government department. It’s a completely different economic and political system (that happens to not work, I’m sure we agree)
It’s an indication of how dumbed-down political debate has become that a statement like “obama is a socialist” can even be taken seriously. It’s a stupid claim, made by people who apparently don’t know socialism from a hole in the ground. “Bush is a fascist” was an equally stupid claim, presumably made by people who didn’t have the foggiest idea what fascism meant.
The worst mass murderer in history is a favorite of the Obama Administration. I posted a blog on another website comparing Obama to Adolf Hitler and liberals there went nuts. I can see now that maybe I was being too kind.
I am fed up with Maoists. Especially Nepali Maoists. On my visit there I have only hate hate relationship with them. On the other hand, I don’t give a damn to American Politics. I don’t care about White House. But I love America and her people and especially New York. Here is one poem about NY which am sharing you with all. It’s written by Nepali poet Bhuwan Thapaya, whom I found on Authorsden.com.
New York
by Bhuwan Thapaliya
Tuesday, October 06, 2009
Rated “G” by the Author.
My tribute to NY
——————————————————————————–
If I could
knit my kisses
into any form,
it would be
the New York City:
the soft slung
lips of peace.
Welcome to New York,
Behold! The romance
life unfolds.
All is wonderous
in the haven
of forgiveness,
the neon dreams
haven’t passed away
and all that’s left
aren’t shades of gray.
The bald eagles
are shaking their hips
over the balcony of bliss
yet again.
Copyright 2009 Bhuwan Thapaliya
Our Nepal, Our Pride
“You fight your war and I’ll fight mine.”
Is this not what obama does?
What else did her favorite philosopher Mao have to say:
“The guerilla campaigns being waged in China today are a page in history that has no precedent. Their influence will be confined not solely to China in her present anti-Japanese struggle, but will be world-wide.”
philosophy failed.
“political power come out the end of a gun fail.”
I thought progressives were anti-gun? They must mean they are anti-gun when it comes to you know citizens right to own and carry a gun. Machiavelli warned us about these people.
“The first law of war is to preserve ourselves and destory our enemy.”
Is this also not what Obama does?
I own a copy of Mao Tse-Tung’s: Guerrilla Warfare.
An let me tell you this is not a man one should choose to speak of in a postive light or even consider a creditable philosopher beyond warfare. Though I should add he copied all his warfare techniques from Sun Tzu.
The real slap in the face here is this she picked as her favorite philosopher a man who engineered the killing of many American soldiers in vietnam. Psychologically speaking: very telling.
ZAC D:
“Though I should add he copied all his warfare techniques from Sun Tzu”
I’m no expert, but I think he owed a thing or two to t.e. lawrence.
Tardive Dyskinesia? (I probably spelled this wrong)
Just looked up tardive d. on internet. Can be caused by cocaine, street drugs, drugs for psychosis, and bipolar disorder- wonder which category Mz. Dunn falls into?
In her Post, #7, Lucy says of the world’s most-prolific, ever, mass-murderer, (who also held the even more despicable title of world’s most-prolific, ever, child rapist — and whose self-annointing, self-appointing and self-perpetuating Peking-based gangster-basta*d barbarian heirs are accepted among “our” bloody bureaucrats and politicians as if deserving of inclusion among civilized Peoples:
“” Yes, Mao. The fount of wisdom, goodness, compassion. Who had syphilis and and said “I clean myself off in the ‘women’ I’m with.” “”
Women? Hardly likely! More often than not little girls — and small boys. The monstrous Mao (without a doubt a card-carrying 0zero “Democrat”) neither bathed nor much cared whom or what or which he raped.
Clearly the administration is Communist; but not because of health care. AIG and all the “too big to fail” firms are allowed to indulge in maximum risk taking with no potential downside, as the government–meaning you and me–will always be there to rescue their billions in executive bonuses.
Want proof that capitalism in the US is dead? #75 Had it, but missed it:
“No wonder people are buying guns and ammo at record rates! The cost of AR-15’s have gone through the roof”
Increased demand for a product generally causes the price to drop, unless there’s a shortage. I haven’t heard that guns are in short supply. Which, BTW, regardless of how I personally feel about gun control, is the main reason why a Maoist-style mass murder could never happen here. The government could never arm and control enough soldiers to outweigh the armed populace.
Re W/204/Brian Richard Allen RE #7:
1) “”Yes, Mao. The fount of wisdom, goodness, compassion. Who had syphilis and and said “I clean myself off in the ‘women’ I’m with.” “”
2) “[...] Women? Hardly likely! More often than not little girls — and small boys. [...]”
* Yes, and after the war, when enjoying the tranquility of his luminous chairmanship, mister Mao used to order groups of young women/ girls for extended, sexual gymnastic parties – yes, and chairman Mao had a personal hygiene problem, including a truly awful, crocodile breath.
And since here, remember “Chairman Mao Dances” interlude from “Nixon In China”? (John Adams/ Peter Sallars)? That’s a neat piece, yet I always found it a bit unsettling – probably that music & ballet unconsciously connects me to some readings about the enormous monstrosity that the Cultural Revolution was.
* And coming to my earlier question regarding Anita Dunn’s choice of political & strategy guiding light:
Why Mao of all the offerings on the shelf? While his success was unquestionable, the quotation in cause has no quotable value whatsoever – any fortune cookie would do it better.
Again, she could have found countless other lines to riff upon, from Marcus Aurelius to saint Augustin to… Yogi Bera, you name them.
Yet Dunn didn’t resist her impulse to seek & forward inspirational messages in other place than the 60-s/70-s lefty hagiography – and her choice, when seen in the larger context of Obama’s cabinet confirms a worrisome pattern.
The Americans didn’t vote last year for a revolution – yet the words and the ways of Obama and his crew show that they see themselves as something like Lenin and his acolytes returning to Russia in 1917 -
No good -
Re W/204/Brian Richard Allen RE #7:
1) “”Yes, Mao. The fount of wisdom, goodness, compassion. Who had syphilis and and said “I clean myself off in the ‘women’ I’m with.” “”
2) “[...] Women? Hardly likely! More often than not little girls — and small boys. [...]”
* Yes, and after the war, when enjoying the tranquility of his luminous chairmanship, mister Mao used to order groups of young women/ girls for extended, sexual gymnastic parties – yes, and chairman Mao had a personal hygiene problem, including a truly awful, crocodile breath.
And since here, remember “Chairman Mao Dances” interlude from “Nixon In China”? (John Adams/ Peter Sallars)? That’s a neat piece, yet I always found it a bit unsettling – probably that music & ballet unconsciously connects me to some readings about the enormous monstrosity that the Cultural Revolution was.
* And coming to my earlier question regarding Anita Dunn’s choice of political & strategy guiding light:
Why Mao of all the offerings on the shelf? While his success was unquestionable, the quotation in cause has no quotable value whatsoever – any fortune cookie would do it better.
Again, she could have found countless other lines to riff upon, from Marcus Aurelius to saint Augustin to… Yogi Bera, you name them.
Yet Dunn didn’t resist her impulse to seek & forward inspirational messages in other place than the 60-s/70-s lefty hagiography – and her choice, when seen in the larger context of Obama’s cabinet confirms a worrisome pattern.
The Americans didn’t vote last year for a revolution – yet the words and the ways of Obama and his crew show that they see themselves as something like Lenin and his acolytes returning to Russia in 1917 -
No good -
Moho:
How one could possibly assume that if one opposes Dunn, they must support Bush, Rove, Gingrich, etc. is beyond me. There is more than a bipolar world in existence. There are actually people who think outside of the criteria you set up to impose your statist view on society. Accusing others of being biased based on assumptions of their views which are derived from your preconceived notions of right vs. left is a massive failure in logic. One could oppose both for the same reasons. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if every one of the above (Bush, Rove, Gingrich, Dunn, Obama, Beck, etc) each admired Mao. What do they all have in common? Well, they all favor using state power to impose their agenda on an unwilling and supposedly ignorant, hapless society that needs their “guidance.” They also all advocate the destruction of wealth through compulsory taxation to fund inefficient, market-destroying mechanisms that almost never work.
Or does the fact that Obama has put Bush’s policies on steroids make him a fan of Bush times two? Or is he twice the statist Bush was? Or just twice the arrogant idiot? I’m simply amazed that people can’t see how similar Bush and Obama are.
So were those of the Khans, and the Huns, and so on. Recognizing their brilliance in war is a far cry from embracing their POLITICAL philosophy.
I’d love to hear you explain how. Please do. Only the supreme ignorance and myopia of a middle American dipshitism could make such a statement. War is part of political philosophy you idiot. There are political philosophies that eschew war as a means of solving problems, and there are those that use it almost exclusively. In war, decisions are made to kill civilians or to starve towns. Making those decisions goes back to political philosophy.
Another thing Marc Malone.
Read more carefully. The article is quite clear that Shadegg was actually posing as Goldwater for years, in an op-ed column with Goldwater’s byline. If Beck loved the writings of Goldwater, he really loved the writings of Shadeg. And, of course, by the inferential lever that you are all using on Dunn, Mao.
Just to be clear, I don’t care if Beck loves Mao. The accusation is simply to stimulate your logic lobes, and show you that making any of these connections is, in fact, absurd. Dunn has made no other references to Maoism in her career, she has never spoken of any particular tenet of Maoism, nor written of it. The high school audience laughed at the juxtaposition, just as anyone with a brain would assume [you should be embarrassed that high school kids would get this irony, while you are out there starting a campaign to paint her as a Maoist].
Indeed, the whole point of that article is to show how easy it is to link anyone to anything if you’re willing to forego context and common sense. The way you people do. You see, there is no corresponding campaign to paint Beck as a Maoist, though its been clear that his 9-12 Project logo is disturbingly reminiscent of Soviet Era propaganda art, as well. The reason is that your political opponents aren’t quite as stupid, apparently, or gullible as you.
In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if every one of the above (Bush, Rove, Gingrich, Dunn, Obama, Beck, etc) each admired Mao. What do they all have in common? Well, they all favor using state power to impose their agenda on an unwilling and supposedly ignorant, hapless society that needs their “guidance.” They also all advocate the destruction of wealth through compulsory taxation to fund inefficient, market-destroying mechanisms that almost never work.
Well, if that’s your point, you’ll get no argument from me. They are quite similar, though I have to say that Bush was far worse and Obama is not much better. But you’ve picked an odd choice of commenter and site to make that comment. I’ve never seen you post here, never seen you criticize any of the commenters here. With all of these big government loving Republicans, you chose the person attacking them, and assumed that he backs Obama. That’s interesting. There’s a lot of people like you coming out of the woorwork, claiming that they opposed Bush, while aligning themselves against Obama with people who supported Bush. That’s the kind of manipulative stupidity that drives me crazy.
HoMo,
Your drivel is tiresome.
Please go back under the rock from whence you came.
ALL politicians are scum.
Get used to it.
WE the PEOPLE are under attack.
The really scary part of Dunn’s statement is that we are not surprised.
Delia said:
HoMo,
What I find most entertaining about you people is how easy it is to make you refer to type. You make a big stink about how you are unfairly painted as bigots, but you simply can’t help yourselves in the end. Its truly hilarious. Keep it up please. The second thing I find hilarious is that ardent Bush fanatics are now trying to paint themselves as crusading anarchists. LOL. Hilarious, really.
Moho,
I have nothing against you personally. And I never voted for Bush. In fact, I was busy getting educated in Europe by socialist demagogues both times (they don’t different much from their American colleagues in humanities), which is where I currently am.
What does this site have to do with my personal views? What are you doing here? I can’t really make any assumptions, but I fail to see how personal anything has to do with this discussion.
In defense of conservatives, Bush was no conservative, not by any stretch. Neither am I. He betrayed their philosophy, which I think is why you see so many pissed off former Bush supporters. Is that hypocritical? Maybe, or maybe there was some final straw that broke them. I have no idea. Maybe something like the 53 trillion in the red for unfunded entitlement programs or both of them increasing spending so much without any real justification instead of letting markets work. Maybe liberals will become disenchanted with Obama for not doing what they thought he would. Would they be hypocritical if they changed their minds? I see nothing wrong with changing your mind based on experience. But I think it’s the absence of principle that bothers you, as it does me. I just wish both sides would see through their rose classes and realize principle often fades in politics.
If you must know and if the name didn’t give you a clue, I consider myself more in the line of classical liberals (libertarians today). Friedman, Hayek, Rothbard, not too keen on Rand, Locke, etc. I do not hide my philosophy, nor will I. Free markets, peace, and small government. Keep the gov’t out of my bedroom, thought, and wallet. And that’s why I oppose both Republicans and Democrats, which are both statist in their policies and both anti-freedom.
HoMo,
You’re the one using the anagram. It’s not cute or clever unless you’re an actual homosexual which you are not, so it’s just tacky that you use that nom de plume.
Don’t play innocent with me about it. You use it for the very reason you accuse me of. You’re the bigot, sweetheart.
Rickrolllllllllllll
Soonerliberty
Well, I come here to excoriate these idiots. Nothing bothers me more than people who refuse to use anything but raw emotion in their political calculus. We probably are closer in opinion than we otherwise thought. I suggest this website, where you will find many liberals very disenchanted with Obama and the way our government works in general.
ttp://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
Read the piece about Goldman Sachs, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
Delia
Thanks for the laugh. Somehow the word Moho is bigoted, but “Homo” isn’t. Indeed, your political philosophy is “whatever I do is right”. I can see that you are perfectly at home here.
I must have missed it. What “Catholic” High School had this maoist as a keynote speaker?
Quoted from and linked to at:
MAO-MAOING THE ZIT CATCHERS
The Lizard people are going to eat our brains, MOHOMO.
Welcome to the Matrix.
Did you get that flu shot yet?
I can see youuuuuuuuu.
God bless you for trying to make satire a 24/7 J-O-B.
You haven’t the faintest idea where you are.
Pwned.
lol
140. Blackwell:
“Not as weirdly twisted as vivo.”
Paranoids and insane people think normal people are weird. Consult a psychiatrist.
Re #223/vivo: “[...] Paranoids and insane people think normal people are weird. Consult a psychiatrist.”
Vivo, even if one wants to define reality by polling people (instead of using hard science research and evidence, situation liberals always avoid), one ends up with:
1) a SOUND MAJORITY of people describing liberals as… gosh, different is the term,
2) while significantly LESS people would describe conservatives as… well, different.
So, if one wants to use the results of this poll for marketing his or her psychiatric services, and also has access to the MoveOnOrg, ACLU, Daily Kos or Huffington Post mailers… Bingo! That practice gonna get lots of clientele -
Mao was the greatest mass murder ever to darken the world with his shadow. Anyone who sees him as a favorite philosopher is warped.
We can learn from this monster what monsters like him believe and perhaps how to stop other horrors like him.
Anita needs to go.
Why would anyone be surprised when another Obama insider reveals herself/himself to be a socialist? Beats me.
The thing that really surprises me is that there are so many socialists in the Democrat Party. I knew there were some. I always thought that most of their voters did not know they were voting for socialism, but I have had to change my view. All Democrats are enemies of America.
At last! the Totalitarian thug reveals himself!I was wrong about David S ;he is not a Stalinist;he’s a Maoist,no wonder,he killed more people than even Stalin!I guess the S really stands for human or animal waste.
#216 DELIA re: MOHO is not an anagram for HOMO,it’s H’s misspelling for the spanish word for “turd”MOJON. He simply can’t resist alluding to his perversions on PJM.See also David S. Liberals, have always been fascinated by excrement;that’s why they are so sympathtic to Communism,mass murder,child rape,and performance “art”.
R C Moore – Dunn was speaking to the graduating class as St. Andrew’s Episcopal School in Potomac, MD, not to a Catholic audience. The ceremony was held at The Washington National Cathedral.
You really, really have to get a life – or a grip on reality.
Robert F. Bauer, the husband of Anita Dunn, is Obama´s personal attorney and a partner of Perkins Cole, LLPs office in DC, he´s the person in charge of hiding the bona fides papers of Mr. Obama from the American people, as well as Mr. Bauer has forced his subordinate at Perkins Cole, LLP, Mr. Siddharth Velamoor, to serve as one of two official clerks, before Federal Judge David O. Carter, in the hearing of the case Barnett vs Obama in Santa Ana, CA, from October 1, 2009 till September 30, 2010.
Impeach the Kenyan, then a British Protectorate, Mr. Barack Obama!!!
Too bad none of you people were very disturbed throughout the Bush administration when the people in power had no regard for the Constitution and trampled of the rule of law. What kind of political philosopher was Dick Cheney? If one were given to the same sort of “drama queen” overstatements a you, what sort of ridiculous exaggerated label could be pin on the Bushies?
A little intellectual honesty would be great. And calm down a bit. :”Where will it end, where will it end?” Laughable
How Beck jumps from Dunn’s declaration of appreciating an inspiring sentiment (granted one expressed by a controversial, but unquestionably politically savvy figure…but do we have to ignore all advice and wisdom unless we can admire the entire history of the person offering it?) to his assertion that this represents a threat to our democracy is the real danger to our Union in that video clip. Conflating a very effective philosophy (again, one admired by conservative icon Goldwater) with the murderous excesses of the eventual politician, corrupted by absolute power, as all men will be, is intellectually dishonest. But, hey, we are talking Beck here.
And Pete Sessions admirers the Taliban, You know the taliban who are killing US Troops every day.
The question is where was your outrage when President Bush gave a copy of MAo’s autobiography to Karl Rove and told him he could learn a lot from it. You feign outrage when someone in Obama’s administration admires Mao’s tactics, but when a Republican PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES actually does it conservatives don’t seem to care. And that my friend is the definition of hypocrisy
Yawn – more faux wingnut outrage. Where will it end?
Philosopher and propangandist are mutually exclusive roles? Someone ought to tell Nietzsche…
Kimball et alia should read the whole quote (from a speech) before they get their knickers in a twist and obfuscate further. It’s time to stop being deliberately stupid and taking cues from Beck the Entertainer, methinks :
“The third lesson and tip actually comes from two of my favorite political philosophers: Mao Tse-tung and Mother Theresa — not often coupled with each other, but the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point which is ‘you’re going to make choices; you’re going to challenge; you’re going to say why not; you’re going to figure out how to do things that have never been done before.”
Didn’t Richard Nixon TRAVEL TO CHINA and shake hands and break bread and drink toasts to this MASS MURDERER?!
A republican?! Well, he had good reason to didn’t he?
Didn’t the US govt borrow unprecedented amounts of money from COMMUNIST China under G.W.Bush?
Really, this effort on Beck’s part to smear someone for acknowledging a remarkable achievement on Mao’s part, even if he was a horrible person, is laughable.
Well, it’s better than having George W. Bush in the White House.
Glenn Beck is a genius. He certainly is much more LOVED than any other “news” figure on TV, and probably more than anybody in the current Regime. Beck said today that Robert Bauer, Anita’s hubby, is about to get a NEAT JOB, probably in the White House. Stay tuned…
Checking the Rove-Bush Mao biography reference, (the article is here), there is also this passage about then President Bush’s reading:
The nonfiction ran from biographies of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Carnegie, Mark Twain, Babe Ruth, King Leopold, William Jennings Bryan, Huey Long, LBJ and Genghis Khan. I think it safe to say that there is no underlying political message involved in this highly eclectic list. It does, however, bespeak of a wide interest in history.
It is a world away from “the two people I turn to most”.
In the Communist Manifesto Karl Marx said the means of communication must be controlled so the Maoist Obama White House has no choice. If you are not sufficiently Socialist, you are on the Obama White House Enemies List.
Albert’s post simply goes to the point that 63% of Americans per a NBC/WSJ pollsay Obama inherited the economy, but at least that number also don’t know that the Democrats have controlled Congress (and the money) since January, 2007. Guess when the bottom dropped out, with Democrats. If you never saw “Howe Barack Obama got elected”, see it – it proves how ignorant people can destroy a country. Yikes, the vast majority of Dems actually though Srah Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard (it was ina Fey on SNL) and they attributed Obama and Biden gaffes to McCain and Palin. If Americans could have a truthful press for even one week, there would be cries for his impeachment from black and white alike.
Such brilliance and yet you can’t distinguish between simply quoting someone and expressing admiration for a person. That’s intellectually beyond your ken, I see.
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