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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/10/09/obama-wins-yasser-arafat-peace-prize-world-amazed/#comment-39242</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t find Churchil’s statement to ring quite true these days but than again we would have to consider what he meant by conservative.&lt;/i&gt;

Once again, Cichawoda reminds us that she knows as much history as my dog knows calculus.

It&#039;s been a few years since I read William Manchester&#039;s biography of Churchill, but off the top of my head I can recall that Churchill opposed the British unions during the Great Strike of 1928, fought (and was a POW) in the Boer War, and wanted the UK to rearm during the &#039;30&#039;s (Cichawoda undoubtably would have denounced him as a warmonger).  He believed in the British Empire and firmly opposed the USSR (he coined the phrase &quot;The Iron Curtain.&quot;) 

It is true we do not know his views on topics like abortion and gay marriage - simply because such things were not issues in his day.  Nobody, left or right, argued for them.  Homosexual acts were illegal in Britain until the early &#039;60&#039;s.

So, pray tell, oh boneheaded one, where you get the idea that conservativism was somehow kinder and gentler in Churchill&#039;s day?  

&lt;i&gt;I am fairly old and looking around at my peer I don’t find Churchil’s statement to ring quite true these days &lt;/i&gt;

Ha!  So you&#039;re not a spring chicken either, eh? Well, remember the quote ends :&quot;if you&#039;re not a conservative by 40, you have no brain.&quot;

So you have no brain and neither do your friends.  The fact that airheads of a feather flock together doesn&#039;t prove Churchill was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t find Churchil’s statement to ring quite true these days but than again we would have to consider what he meant by conservative.</i></p>
<p>Once again, Cichawoda reminds us that she knows as much history as my dog knows calculus.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a few years since I read William Manchester&#8217;s biography of Churchill, but off the top of my head I can recall that Churchill opposed the British unions during the Great Strike of 1928, fought (and was a POW) in the Boer War, and wanted the UK to rearm during the &#8217;30&#8242;s (Cichawoda undoubtably would have denounced him as a warmonger).  He believed in the British Empire and firmly opposed the USSR (he coined the phrase &#8220;The Iron Curtain.&#8221;) </p>
<p>It is true we do not know his views on topics like abortion and gay marriage &#8211; simply because such things were not issues in his day.  Nobody, left or right, argued for them.  Homosexual acts were illegal in Britain until the early &#8217;60&#8242;s.</p>
<p>So, pray tell, oh boneheaded one, where you get the idea that conservativism was somehow kinder and gentler in Churchill&#8217;s day?  </p>
<p><i>I am fairly old and looking around at my peer I don’t find Churchil’s statement to ring quite true these days </i></p>
<p>Ha!  So you&#8217;re not a spring chicken either, eh? Well, remember the quote ends :&#8221;if you&#8217;re not a conservative by 40, you have no brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you have no brain and neither do your friends.  The fact that airheads of a feather flock together doesn&#8217;t prove Churchill was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Cichawoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cichawoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>205. DaRick:
&quot;according to Rasmussen Reports (not exactly a far-right poll&quot;
I find Pollster.com statistically more convincing because it is an agglomerate of all current pols:  http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

Myself - I am fairly old and looking around at my peer I don&#039;t find Churchil&#039;s statement to ring quite true these days but than again we would have to consider what he meant by conservative. I think he would find that what currently passes of as conservative in American was way of in the realm of what was considered loony in his day.

I think you underestimate Obama and his team. By the next State of the Union he will have a lot to show (stuff you might not like but what many Americans demand) and a new and renewed mandate with the majority to further and consolidate the changes most Americans need for a safe and prosperous future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>205. DaRick:<br />
&#8220;according to Rasmussen Reports (not exactly a far-right poll&#8221;<br />
I find Pollster.com statistically more convincing because it is an agglomerate of all current pols:  <a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php</a></p>
<p>Myself &#8211; I am fairly old and looking around at my peer I don&#8217;t find Churchil&#8217;s statement to ring quite true these days but than again we would have to consider what he meant by conservative. I think he would find that what currently passes of as conservative in American was way of in the realm of what was considered loony in his day.</p>
<p>I think you underestimate Obama and his team. By the next State of the Union he will have a lot to show (stuff you might not like but what many Americans demand) and a new and renewed mandate with the majority to further and consolidate the changes most Americans need for a safe and prosperous future.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actually it just shows that the Nobel people have focused on positive achievements while ignoring negative aspects&lt;/i&gt;

Uh, so, tell me again what Obama&#039;s positive achievements are, o ye of remarkably unconvoluted mind (i.e. simpleton).

Here&#039;s something he&#039;s managed to achieve in just the past few days:  he&#039;s p.o.ed Andrew Sullivan and other left-wing gay bloggers because it&#039;s dawning on them that he&#039;s all talk, no action.  Tossing gays under the bus, well, that&#039;s quite a feat, I must say.  

DaRick:  At some point, the ditzy college Obamabots are going to enter the real world and it will slowly dawn on them that the Dems do to taxpayers what Polanski does to 13 year old girls.  And that they, and their children, will bear the brunt of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually it just shows that the Nobel people have focused on positive achievements while ignoring negative aspects</i></p>
<p>Uh, so, tell me again what Obama&#8217;s positive achievements are, o ye of remarkably unconvoluted mind (i.e. simpleton).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something he&#8217;s managed to achieve in just the past few days:  he&#8217;s p.o.ed Andrew Sullivan and other left-wing gay bloggers because it&#8217;s dawning on them that he&#8217;s all talk, no action.  Tossing gays under the bus, well, that&#8217;s quite a feat, I must say.  </p>
<p>DaRick:  At some point, the ditzy college Obamabots are going to enter the real world and it will slowly dawn on them that the Dems do to taxpayers what Polanski does to 13 year old girls.  And that they, and their children, will bear the brunt of it.</p>
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		<title>By: DaRick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cichawooda:

&quot;Judging by approval ratings, although down from a peak of 70% approval earlier this year to “just” 58% today the approval ratings are going back up. Yes Obama and his polisies are favored by the majority of Americans and especialy the young. I know that a lot of you have been saying “The young don’t know anything.” – but they are the future and most of you will not be around to see if you were right or not.&quot;

Actually, I am fairly young myself, believe it or not. It is just that I&#039;ve gone from being a centrist on most issues to being center-right over the past few years. Young people also tend to become more conservative as they age, as they are burdened by kids and not as carefree as before.

As Winston Churchill said:

&quot;Anybody who is not a liberal at 20 has no heart. Anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain.&quot;

Like I&#039;ve said, Obama is popular (or relatively popular) now because it is early in his tenure, the media are spellbound and because he will always have a core constituency (the Jeremiah Wright-esque nutcases). It is not really a reflection of how great he is. I mean, bloody hell, even ol&#039; George managed a high approval rating (in the 70&#039;s, IIRC) post 9/11. 

Your 58% doesn&#039;t really stand up to scrutiny, either - especially given that&#039;s the number who thought that undue politics was involved in the Nobel Peace Prize. His approval rating, as of October 11, is closer to 49%, with more people viciously against him than rabidly for him, according to Rasmussen Reports (not exactly a far-right poll).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cichawooda:</p>
<p>&#8220;Judging by approval ratings, although down from a peak of 70% approval earlier this year to “just” 58% today the approval ratings are going back up. Yes Obama and his polisies are favored by the majority of Americans and especialy the young. I know that a lot of you have been saying “The young don’t know anything.” – but they are the future and most of you will not be around to see if you were right or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I am fairly young myself, believe it or not. It is just that I&#8217;ve gone from being a centrist on most issues to being center-right over the past few years. Young people also tend to become more conservative as they age, as they are burdened by kids and not as carefree as before.</p>
<p>As Winston Churchill said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Anybody who is not a liberal at 20 has no heart. Anybody who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like I&#8217;ve said, Obama is popular (or relatively popular) now because it is early in his tenure, the media are spellbound and because he will always have a core constituency (the Jeremiah Wright-esque nutcases). It is not really a reflection of how great he is. I mean, bloody hell, even ol&#8217; George managed a high approval rating (in the 70&#8242;s, IIRC) post 9/11. </p>
<p>Your 58% doesn&#8217;t really stand up to scrutiny, either &#8211; especially given that&#8217;s the number who thought that undue politics was involved in the Nobel Peace Prize. His approval rating, as of October 11, is closer to 49%, with more people viciously against him than rabidly for him, according to Rasmussen Reports (not exactly a far-right poll).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll" rel="nofollow">http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they should start calling it the Nobel Bribe™. 

No wonder 0bama &lt;i&gt;pines&lt;/i&gt; for Islam? It&#039;s his only hope of reining in that fire breathing spouse of his. 

Ever notice her response to his winning the election that night?  Wouldn&#039;t even share a kiss with him on stage; spurned his efforts there in front of everyone. I guess there&#039;s no pleasing some people. 

What do you give the man who has everything? Answer: Iz-slum. Who needs to live like a king when you can like a sheik or a sultan or a shee-mam. Strike a deal with the Taliban, (that will put the women in their place) give the Taliban a voice in their own (OCCUPIED!!) land. After all, aren&#039;t they being spurned too in their efforts to bring islam back to (occupied) Afghanistan by the failed policies of the past? 

Yes, the war has become &quot;unsustainable&quot;, (to use his word). Where are the trolls to harangue us with the &lt;i&gt;trillions&lt;/i&gt; spent &lt;i&gt;every day&lt;/i&gt;  in the HALIBURTON wars in the middle east? So send in the trolls. Don&#039;t bother, there here.

vivo obamo, 
(dit-dah-dit, dah, dah, didit)
vivo obamo
(dit-dah-dit, dah, dah, didit)
vivo, vivo obamoooooooooooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should start calling it the Nobel Bribe™. </p>
<p>No wonder 0bama <i>pines</i> for Islam? It&#8217;s his only hope of reining in that fire breathing spouse of his. </p>
<p>Ever notice her response to his winning the election that night?  Wouldn&#8217;t even share a kiss with him on stage; spurned his efforts there in front of everyone. I guess there&#8217;s no pleasing some people. </p>
<p>What do you give the man who has everything? Answer: Iz-slum. Who needs to live like a king when you can like a sheik or a sultan or a shee-mam. Strike a deal with the Taliban, (that will put the women in their place) give the Taliban a voice in their own (OCCUPIED!!) land. After all, aren&#8217;t they being spurned too in their efforts to bring islam back to (occupied) Afghanistan by the failed policies of the past? </p>
<p>Yes, the war has become &#8220;unsustainable&#8221;, (to use his word). Where are the trolls to harangue us with the <i>trillions</i> spent <i>every day</i>  in the HALIBURTON wars in the middle east? So send in the trolls. Don&#8217;t bother, there here.</p>
<p>vivo obamo,<br />
(dit-dah-dit, dah, dah, didit)<br />
vivo obamo<br />
(dit-dah-dit, dah, dah, didit)<br />
vivo, vivo obamoooooooooooo!</p>
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		<title>By: Token Conservative &#183; Some reactions to the Nobel: The apotheosis of Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Token Conservative &#183; Some reactions to the Nobel: The apotheosis of Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>201. Donna V.:

&quot;If Kissinger was a poor choice for the Peace Prize, you would think that might lead people to question the judg(e)ment of the Committee members when it came to other picks.&quot;

Actually it just shows that the Nobel people have focused on positive achievements while ignoring negative aspects.  Their thinking was different from other convoluted minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>201. Donna V.:</p>
<p>&#8220;If Kissinger was a poor choice for the Peace Prize, you would think that might lead people to question the judg(e)ment of the Committee members when it came to other picks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually it just shows that the Nobel people have focused on positive achievements while ignoring negative aspects.  Their thinking was different from other convoluted minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivo: you asked for the name of a US conservative who had won the Peace Prize.  I supplied it.  I also gave my opinion that the Prize is a meaningless one.

If Kissinger was a poor choice for the Peace Prize, you would think that might lead people to question the judgement of the Committee members when it came to other picks.  But apparently it doesn&#039;t -  not when you&#039;re a  leftist who is a stranger to logical thought.

The only Nobel prizes which truly mean something are the science ones, awards which are given for something concrete and objective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivo: you asked for the name of a US conservative who had won the Peace Prize.  I supplied it.  I also gave my opinion that the Prize is a meaningless one.</p>
<p>If Kissinger was a poor choice for the Peace Prize, you would think that might lead people to question the judgement of the Committee members when it came to other picks.  But apparently it doesn&#8217;t &#8211;  not when you&#8217;re a  leftist who is a stranger to logical thought.</p>
<p>The only Nobel prizes which truly mean something are the science ones, awards which are given for something concrete and objective.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that the Nobel committee did Obama (or its own reputation) no favor by giving him the award, the predictable snottiness of your remarks don&#039;t help you either, Mr. Kimball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that the Nobel committee did Obama (or its own reputation) no favor by giving him the award, the predictable snottiness of your remarks don&#8217;t help you either, Mr. Kimball.</p>
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		<title>By: Cichawoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cichawoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>196. DaRick:
&quot;It is somewhat evident that Obama is NOT America.&quot;

Judging by approval ratings, although down from a peak of 70% approval earlier this year to &quot;just&quot; 58% today the approval ratings are going back up. Yes Obama and his polisies are favored by the majority of Americans and especialy the young. I know that a lot of you have been saying &quot;The young don&#039;t know anything.&quot; - but they are the future and most of you will not be around to see if you were right or not.

197. HonestJon:
&quot;rename it “The Noble Puss Prize.” For obvious reasons…&quot;

Only cowards are afraid to work towards peace. Like with dogs - the most fearful are the first to bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>196. DaRick:<br />
&#8220;It is somewhat evident that Obama is NOT America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Judging by approval ratings, although down from a peak of 70% approval earlier this year to &#8220;just&#8221; 58% today the approval ratings are going back up. Yes Obama and his polisies are favored by the majority of Americans and especialy the young. I know that a lot of you have been saying &#8220;The young don&#8217;t know anything.&#8221; &#8211; but they are the future and most of you will not be around to see if you were right or not.</p>
<p>197. HonestJon:<br />
&#8220;rename it “The Noble Puss Prize.” For obvious reasons…&#8221;</p>
<p>Only cowards are afraid to work towards peace. Like with dogs &#8211; the most fearful are the first to bit.</p>
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