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	<title>Comments on: Now We Know: “Ultimately, this is not about a process, it’s about results”</title>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 bibio44, BTW, Social Security and Medicare are both growing in an inverse ratio as to payees (that&#039;s &lt;i&gt; payers&lt;/i&gt; to you) to recipients. Less and less of the former and exponentially growing numbers of the latter.

So if the administration and congress cannot reform these programs that are headed for one pressure cooker of a train wreck, can&#039;t manage those, what makes them competent to administer any new ones?

Again they trot out the boilerplate of &quot;there is a crisis&quot;, &quot; we&#039;ve got to do it &lt;i&gt;NOW!&quot;,&lt;/i&gt; &quot;don&#039;t bother to read it, much less debate the merits of this Bill&quot;, &quot;We&#039;ve got to do this thing &lt;i&gt;NOW!&quot;,&lt;/i&gt; &quot;Don&#039;t you know there is a crisis?&quot;, If we don&#039;t do it &lt;i&gt;NOW!, there will be a Great Depression!!&quot;, &quot;We&#039;ve got &lt;i&gt;A CRISIS™!!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Did I mention there&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;crisis?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And so on round and round it goes, leaving it to weasels to parse David Axelrods use of the word &quot;ultimately&quot; or his directive that debate, much less &lt;i&gt;&quot;reading&quot;&lt;/i&gt; these Bills be suspended.

Just speak to  us of the state of Social Security and Medicare, and why no one should worry, because there is all these &lt;i&gt;cool&lt;/i&gt; green jobs gonna come, and free health care for all, and what else? Oh, I&#039;m sure there is something.

The Dems in congress are losing their will to sign on for this stuff. The Cap &amp; Trade bill that was to be pushed through Senate just after July 4th holiday has been postponed (plunging approval #s in inverse proportion to soaring disapproval #&#039;s perhaps?) until september.

They are getting skittish, so look for this stuff to start dragging on, like its supposed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 bibio44, BTW, Social Security and Medicare are both growing in an inverse ratio as to payees (that&#8217;s <i> payers</i> to you) to recipients. Less and less of the former and exponentially growing numbers of the latter.</p>
<p>So if the administration and congress cannot reform these programs that are headed for one pressure cooker of a train wreck, can&#8217;t manage those, what makes them competent to administer any new ones?</p>
<p>Again they trot out the boilerplate of &#8220;there is a crisis&#8221;, &#8221; we&#8217;ve got to do it <i>NOW!&#8221;,</i> &#8220;don&#8217;t bother to read it, much less debate the merits of this Bill&#8221;, &#8220;We&#8217;ve got to do this thing <i>NOW!&#8221;,</i> &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know there is a crisis?&#8221;, If we don&#8217;t do it <i>NOW!, there will be a Great Depression!!&#8221;, &#8220;We&#8217;ve got </i><i>A CRISIS™!!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Did I mention there&#8217;s a <i>crisis?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And so on round and round it goes, leaving it to weasels to parse David Axelrods use of the word &#8220;ultimately&#8221; or his directive that debate, much less <i>&#8220;reading&#8221;</i> these Bills be suspended.</p>
<p>Just speak to  us of the state of Social Security and Medicare, and why no one should worry, because there is all these <i>cool</i> green jobs gonna come, and free health care for all, and what else? Oh, I&#8217;m sure there is something.</p>
<p>The Dems in congress are losing their will to sign on for this stuff. The Cap &amp; Trade bill that was to be pushed through Senate just after July 4th holiday has been postponed (plunging approval #s in inverse proportion to soaring disapproval #&#8217;s perhaps?) until september.</p>
<p>They are getting skittish, so look for this stuff to start dragging on, like its supposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Wrong, Dave! Ultimately, politics in a democracy is very much about &lt;i&gt;process&lt;/i&gt; — note that I said “in a democracy.”&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Which, if logic and reason are your guides, proves that government is &lt;i&gt;designed&lt;/i&gt; to be conservative. It is designed to slow things down so that the frivolous and the fashionable is subjected to rigorous scrutiny in the hope that idiocy and usurpation[s] are driven out of policy.

So once Reid, Peloski, and 0bama have expropriated and looted the business and the personal, the gummit won&#039;t do anything constructive on anyone&#039;s account, except to preserve the political class through the institution of nepotism and a Gestapo that is necessary to enforce the socialist state. 

So Churchill was right when he said that &quot;a socialist state cannot be constructed without a gestapo to enforce it.&quot;

And a socialist state enforced by a gestapo will be very &quot;conservative&quot; [as dhimmicrats like to think of it, &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; standard] &lt;i&gt;by design&lt;/i&gt; and will not be interested in change in the least, too busy as it will be with enforcing docile compliance to its iron fisted rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Wrong, Dave! Ultimately, politics in a democracy is very much about </i><i>process</i> — note that I said “in a democracy.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Which, if logic and reason are your guides, proves that government is <i>designed</i> to be conservative. It is designed to slow things down so that the frivolous and the fashionable is subjected to rigorous scrutiny in the hope that idiocy and usurpation[s] are driven out of policy.</p>
<p>So once Reid, Peloski, and 0bama have expropriated and looted the business and the personal, the gummit won&#8217;t do anything constructive on anyone&#8217;s account, except to preserve the political class through the institution of nepotism and a Gestapo that is necessary to enforce the socialist state. </p>
<p>So Churchill was right when he said that &#8220;a socialist state cannot be constructed without a gestapo to enforce it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a socialist state enforced by a gestapo will be very &#8220;conservative&#8221; [as dhimmicrats like to think of it, <i>their</i> standard] <i>by design</i> and will not be interested in change in the least, too busy as it will be with enforcing docile compliance to its iron fisted rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Polemicscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polemicscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger has a very good insight into the method of the Obama administration. Alinsky&#039;s &quot;Rules for Radicals&quot; is their textbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger has a very good insight into the method of the Obama administration. Alinsky&#8217;s &#8220;Rules for Radicals&#8221; is their textbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bibio44,

Look, here&#039;s the problem: we have too many Gletkins&#039; running around telling us Rubashovs&#039; how we&#039;re supposed to be serving the State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bibio44,</p>
<p>Look, here&#8217;s the problem: we have too many Gletkins&#8217; running around telling us Rubashovs&#8217; how we&#8217;re supposed to be serving the State.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is link:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/images/wm2544_table1.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/images/wm2544_table1.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/images/wm2544_table1.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax Rates - US States vs. European Nations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax Rates &#8211; US States vs. European Nations</p>
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		<title>By: bibio44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bibio44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ultimately, to revert once more to David Axelrod’s word....&quot;

And a very apt word it is in this case. &quot;Ultimately&quot; it IS about the results, just as it was for other measures passed during other administrations: Social Security, Medicare, the Voting Rights Act (or whatever the official title was), etc.  Saying that Axelrod wants to &quot;dispense with the political process&quot; is a false interpretation of his statement.  (BTW, as recent revelations attest, Bush/Cheney were masters at dispensing with the political process -- but I don&#039;t suppose you&#039;ll have an indignant post about that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ultimately, to revert once more to David Axelrod’s word&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a very apt word it is in this case. &#8220;Ultimately&#8221; it IS about the results, just as it was for other measures passed during other administrations: Social Security, Medicare, the Voting Rights Act (or whatever the official title was), etc.  Saying that Axelrod wants to &#8220;dispense with the political process&#8221; is a false interpretation of his statement.  (BTW, as recent revelations attest, Bush/Cheney were masters at dispensing with the political process &#8212; but I don&#8217;t suppose you&#8217;ll have an indignant post about that.)</p>
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		<title>By: steve macdonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the government that has mismanaged medicaid, medicare, VA, health care on Indian reservations, the post office, Amtrak, passed a $1,000,000,000,000 stimulus bill that no one had time to read which has failed to date and will continue to fail in the future, passed a second half fiscal year bill with over 8,000 earmarks and an 8% ncrease in discretionary spending after promising to eliminarte earmarks and spend wisely. The government has passed energy legislation that created no energy but spent billions, continued farm subsidies that were do to expire while lowering food output, took a $4 Billion water works request from the Army Core of Engineers and converted it to a $24 billion pork fest. The government has nationalized large chunks of the finance and automotive industries with zero likelihood of being able to efficiently manage them.
Given the above, very abbreviated record of accomplishments, bypassing the proccess of informed debate in the interest of getting an unachievable end result does stike one as being &quot;slightly bizzarre.&quot;
Worse, there are actually people who buy into all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the government that has mismanaged medicaid, medicare, VA, health care on Indian reservations, the post office, Amtrak, passed a $1,000,000,000,000 stimulus bill that no one had time to read which has failed to date and will continue to fail in the future, passed a second half fiscal year bill with over 8,000 earmarks and an 8% ncrease in discretionary spending after promising to eliminarte earmarks and spend wisely. The government has passed energy legislation that created no energy but spent billions, continued farm subsidies that were do to expire while lowering food output, took a $4 Billion water works request from the Army Core of Engineers and converted it to a $24 billion pork fest. The government has nationalized large chunks of the finance and automotive industries with zero likelihood of being able to efficiently manage them.<br />
Given the above, very abbreviated record of accomplishments, bypassing the proccess of informed debate in the interest of getting an unachievable end result does stike one as being &#8220;slightly bizzarre.&#8221;<br />
Worse, there are actually people who buy into all of this.</p>
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