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		<title>By: Brittancus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittancus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REMEMBER WHO VOTED TO SAVE AMERICAN JOBS AND THOSE WHO BETRAYED US.

Don&#039;t believe for one minute, we are out of the quicksand yet? The illegal immigration enforcement battle has just began. Starting when Senate Leader Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and even President Obama begin their devious manipulating  when the amendments enter closed door sessions. Our victories may have seemed successful and closed, but it now enter the dark domain of the conference committees. This is where our laws and brought and sold by the highest bidders, because the  vicious cycle comes with open border, the free traders who have already been lobbying hard and have large war chests. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) authored  the completion of 700-miles of fencing along the southwest border, not just pathetic vehicular barriers and a virtual barrier.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) that would require all federal contractors to check the eligibility of new hires through E-Verify. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) tried to table the amendment, but the motion was defeated. The amendment also calls for a permanent reauthorization of E-Verify, which is set to expire in September.Sen. Charles Grassley&#039;s (R-Iowa) E-Verify amendment to the Homeland Security spending bill allows employers to check the workplace eligibility of all employees--NOT JUST NEW HIRES.  Sen. David Vitter&#039;s (R-La.) No-Match amendment prevents further delay in the implementation of a Bush Administration rule allowing the Social Security to send No-Match letters to employers.

All the anti-sovereignty, pro-illegal immigrant groups are already swallowing their own bile, but will be on the doorstep on the Congress in the following days. The American people must be vigilant against many  organization, who not only want to squash  E-Verify completely, but de-construct the border  wall. Council of Foreign Relations wants no barriers between the North American countries, so it doesn&#039;t inhibit the free movement of cheap labor. The US Chamber of Commerce seems to believe American workers should be in competition with anybody who climbs the border wall?  Who would ever think trade unions such as AFL-CIO, would in their leadership condone illegal labor in their membership. ACLU group like many others are secretly financed by taxpayer dollars, as is LA Raza and other radical organizations. If we didn&#039;t have the bloggers and a moderate media, the public would be left unaware of the weakening of ICE RAIDS, 287(g) police enforcement the REAL ID ACT.

Almost every law on the books that includes 287(g) for local enforcement is always weakened or even snuffed out by political conspirators. Any activist knows whose behind annulling the 287(g) police questioning, arrest and detain of illegal aliens? Our lady at the Homeland Security office, Madam Janet Napolitano. She keeps opening her mouth and with a forked tongue, swears she adamantly supported E-Verify and other programs, while secretly she and her minions underfund working laws, just as she did when she was governor of Arizona? Sheriff Joe Ariapo showed most of these genuflecting elected officials the door, and he certainly has major backing of voters in Maricopa county. They have had enough of spreading crime and utter indifference to American law.


Their is a commitment by the Catholic church to undermine federal immigration laws, that is outrageous and they should lose the tax exempt status.  But remember that although the coming AMNESTY is a disastrous crisis,  the  following  waves  of  illegal potential  squatters will be  our Armageddon.  The acceleration towards the genesis of Overpopulation. If we allow the politicians to enact another immigration reform program, it will become a calamity as was the 1986 AMNESTY.

California--a SANCTUARY STATE--is now bearing a heavy burden, for voting into office--TAX AND SPEND--legislators, who allowed the state to become a refuge for millions of illegal aliens and families, that have drained the government coffers dry. THE GATHERING STORM OF FURIOUS VOTERS FROM ACROSS AMERICA, CANNOT NOT, MUST NOT STOP CONTACTING THEIR SENATE AND CONGRESS. 202-224-3121  THE US TAXPAYER MUST REMAIN ALERT AND LET THESE POLITICIANS UP THERE KNOW WHOSE IN CHARGE. THAT THEIR JOBS ARE ON THE LINE, LIKE THE MILLIONS OF AMERICAN WORKERS. GOOGLE THE INTERNET, TO DECIDE THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF. OR GO TO NUMBERSUSA, CAPSWEB, JUDICIALWATCH &amp; AMERICANPATROL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REMEMBER WHO VOTED TO SAVE AMERICAN JOBS AND THOSE WHO BETRAYED US.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe for one minute, we are out of the quicksand yet? The illegal immigration enforcement battle has just began. Starting when Senate Leader Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and even President Obama begin their devious manipulating  when the amendments enter closed door sessions. Our victories may have seemed successful and closed, but it now enter the dark domain of the conference committees. This is where our laws and brought and sold by the highest bidders, because the  vicious cycle comes with open border, the free traders who have already been lobbying hard and have large war chests. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) authored  the completion of 700-miles of fencing along the southwest border, not just pathetic vehicular barriers and a virtual barrier.</p>
<p>Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) that would require all federal contractors to check the eligibility of new hires through E-Verify. Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) tried to table the amendment, but the motion was defeated. The amendment also calls for a permanent reauthorization of E-Verify, which is set to expire in September.Sen. Charles Grassley&#8217;s (R-Iowa) E-Verify amendment to the Homeland Security spending bill allows employers to check the workplace eligibility of all employees&#8211;NOT JUST NEW HIRES.  Sen. David Vitter&#8217;s (R-La.) No-Match amendment prevents further delay in the implementation of a Bush Administration rule allowing the Social Security to send No-Match letters to employers.</p>
<p>All the anti-sovereignty, pro-illegal immigrant groups are already swallowing their own bile, but will be on the doorstep on the Congress in the following days. The American people must be vigilant against many  organization, who not only want to squash  E-Verify completely, but de-construct the border  wall. Council of Foreign Relations wants no barriers between the North American countries, so it doesn&#8217;t inhibit the free movement of cheap labor. The US Chamber of Commerce seems to believe American workers should be in competition with anybody who climbs the border wall?  Who would ever think trade unions such as AFL-CIO, would in their leadership condone illegal labor in their membership. ACLU group like many others are secretly financed by taxpayer dollars, as is LA Raza and other radical organizations. If we didn&#8217;t have the bloggers and a moderate media, the public would be left unaware of the weakening of ICE RAIDS, 287(g) police enforcement the REAL ID ACT.</p>
<p>Almost every law on the books that includes 287(g) for local enforcement is always weakened or even snuffed out by political conspirators. Any activist knows whose behind annulling the 287(g) police questioning, arrest and detain of illegal aliens? Our lady at the Homeland Security office, Madam Janet Napolitano. She keeps opening her mouth and with a forked tongue, swears she adamantly supported E-Verify and other programs, while secretly she and her minions underfund working laws, just as she did when she was governor of Arizona? Sheriff Joe Ariapo showed most of these genuflecting elected officials the door, and he certainly has major backing of voters in Maricopa county. They have had enough of spreading crime and utter indifference to American law.</p>
<p>Their is a commitment by the Catholic church to undermine federal immigration laws, that is outrageous and they should lose the tax exempt status.  But remember that although the coming AMNESTY is a disastrous crisis,  the  following  waves  of  illegal potential  squatters will be  our Armageddon.  The acceleration towards the genesis of Overpopulation. If we allow the politicians to enact another immigration reform program, it will become a calamity as was the 1986 AMNESTY.</p>
<p>California&#8211;a SANCTUARY STATE&#8211;is now bearing a heavy burden, for voting into office&#8211;TAX AND SPEND&#8211;legislators, who allowed the state to become a refuge for millions of illegal aliens and families, that have drained the government coffers dry. THE GATHERING STORM OF FURIOUS VOTERS FROM ACROSS AMERICA, CANNOT NOT, MUST NOT STOP CONTACTING THEIR SENATE AND CONGRESS. 202-224-3121  THE US TAXPAYER MUST REMAIN ALERT AND LET THESE POLITICIANS UP THERE KNOW WHOSE IN CHARGE. THAT THEIR JOBS ARE ON THE LINE, LIKE THE MILLIONS OF AMERICAN WORKERS. GOOGLE THE INTERNET, TO DECIDE THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF. OR GO TO NUMBERSUSA, CAPSWEB, JUDICIALWATCH &amp; AMERICANPATROL</p>
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		<title>By: Les Hardie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Hardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visualizing the debt: if we say that Obama is increasing our mortgages by $400,000, THAT really hits home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visualizing the debt: if we say that Obama is increasing our mortgages by $400,000, THAT really hits home.</p>
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		<title>By: Waymad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waymad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waxman-Markey to Smoot-Hawley - a series of innocuous Adjustments.

The rules:  
1 - treat WaxMan as two words conjoined. Each word must be valid.
2 - changes to &#039;Markey&#039; must all be proper names.
3 - change one character in each word in each iteration.

WaxMan    Markey
WaxMat    Marley
SaxMat    Harley
SaxOat    Hawley
SamOat    Hawley
Smoat     Hawley
Smoot     Hawley

The Deniers amongst you may have spotted that SamOat became Smoat, and that this may trangress Rule #1 and possibly #3.  However, there is a consensus amongst the members of the  Supreme Noun-Benders And Fictioneers Union, that these Adjustments are valid.  Indeed, the Literature is Settled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waxman-Markey to Smoot-Hawley &#8211; a series of innocuous Adjustments.</p>
<p>The rules:<br />
1 &#8211; treat WaxMan as two words conjoined. Each word must be valid.<br />
2 &#8211; changes to &#8216;Markey&#8217; must all be proper names.<br />
3 &#8211; change one character in each word in each iteration.</p>
<p>WaxMan    Markey<br />
WaxMat    Marley<br />
SaxMat    Harley<br />
SaxOat    Hawley<br />
SamOat    Hawley<br />
Smoat     Hawley<br />
Smoot     Hawley</p>
<p>The Deniers amongst you may have spotted that SamOat became Smoat, and that this may trangress Rule #1 and possibly #3.  However, there is a consensus amongst the members of the  Supreme Noun-Benders And Fictioneers Union, that these Adjustments are valid.  Indeed, the Literature is Settled.</p>
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		<title>By: Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How extremely funny it is seeing all these left wing &#039;neolib&#039; &#039;Numpties&#039; STILL bleating about Global warming when it has been COOLING since 1998. What this  proves that it must take longer than ten years to get something through their thick skulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How extremely funny it is seeing all these left wing &#8216;neolib&#8217; &#8216;Numpties&#8217; STILL bleating about Global warming when it has been COOLING since 1998. What this  proves that it must take longer than ten years to get something through their thick skulls.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul -Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul -Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15.  Boris, it&#039;s already been pointed out, &#039;global warming&#039; has become &#039;global cooling&#039;.  The reason is the sun. See http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/solar/lassen1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15.  Boris, it&#8217;s already been pointed out, &#8216;global warming&#8217; has become &#8216;global cooling&#8217;.  The reason is the sun. See <a href="http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/solar/lassen1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/solar/lassen1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: middleagedpatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>middleagedpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is not being talked about is how unequally &quot;cap and tax&quot; will be distributed. Agriculture, forestry, high energy use manufacturing, transportation, etc. will obviously bear the brunt of these taxes and their costs of operation will further sky rocket. 

It also opens a Pandora&#039;s box of possibility for easily setting up corrupt market monopolies in an elaborate &quot;pay to play&quot; system. Ex: farms could easily be collectivized under &quot;cap and trade&quot;. Further nationalization of industry (like car making) is another example. 
The real cost of this bill will be found in the way the &quot;ripple effect&quot; plays out.As with the animals of &quot;Animal Farm&quot; some animals will definately find they are &quot;more equal than others&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is not being talked about is how unequally &#8220;cap and tax&#8221; will be distributed. Agriculture, forestry, high energy use manufacturing, transportation, etc. will obviously bear the brunt of these taxes and their costs of operation will further sky rocket. </p>
<p>It also opens a Pandora&#8217;s box of possibility for easily setting up corrupt market monopolies in an elaborate &#8220;pay to play&#8221; system. Ex: farms could easily be collectivized under &#8220;cap and trade&#8221;. Further nationalization of industry (like car making) is another example.<br />
The real cost of this bill will be found in the way the &#8220;ripple effect&#8221; plays out.As with the animals of &#8220;Animal Farm&#8221; some animals will definately find they are &#8220;more equal than others&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Strawman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pascal&#039;s Wager is also a &quot;heads I win/tails you lose&quot; proposition. Often AGW measures are presented as a kind of Pascal&#039;s Wager in policy drag. They not only ignore the severity of the downside, they commit the unforgivable sin of insisting that their solution, worst case, will save us. 

If the worst case really is as bad as the IPCC claims (and I&#039;m decidedly not claiming that it is), all the cap&#039;n tax in the world won&#039;t save our sorry souls or our sorry butts. 

Reality is that cap&#039;n tax is kind of like an inverted Pascal&#039;s Wager - either way, we lose. And the bad guys win. Funny, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal&#8217;s Wager is also a &#8220;heads I win/tails you lose&#8221; proposition. Often AGW measures are presented as a kind of Pascal&#8217;s Wager in policy drag. They not only ignore the severity of the downside, they commit the unforgivable sin of insisting that their solution, worst case, will save us. </p>
<p>If the worst case really is as bad as the IPCC claims (and I&#8217;m decidedly not claiming that it is), all the cap&#8217;n tax in the world won&#8217;t save our sorry souls or our sorry butts. </p>
<p>Reality is that cap&#8217;n tax is kind of like an inverted Pascal&#8217;s Wager &#8211; either way, we lose. And the bad guys win. Funny, that.</p>
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		<title>By: JED</title>
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		<dc:creator>JED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>71 Strawman:
Pascal&#039;s Wager is about faith in a divinity. Arrhenius&#039;s law is a minor part of thermodynamics. It is great when a diversity of opinion is brought into play to try to solve open ended questions with multi-variables, and divergent end point scenarios. 
Where does that bridge go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71 Strawman:<br />
Pascal&#8217;s Wager is about faith in a divinity. Arrhenius&#8217;s law is a minor part of thermodynamics. It is great when a diversity of opinion is brought into play to try to solve open ended questions with multi-variables, and divergent end point scenarios.<br />
Where does that bridge go?</p>
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		<title>By: Strawman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>69, the &quot;Pascal&#039;s Wager&quot; argument. But even that&#039;s phony, because of the logarithmic nature of Arrhenius&#039; law. Pick any feedback factor, it doesn&#039;t matter, the result still is that knocking 10 or 20% off of emissions won&#039;t make a measurable difference. And that&#039;s not even taking into account the increases from India and China.

The truth is that if this is an actual problem, cap&#039;n tax is a joke as an answer. I actually find myself agreeing with the most radical environmentalists on one very narrow point: if we do have a real problem, this is pissing in the wind.

So no, this isn&#039;t even Pascal&#039;s Wager. This is more like buying a bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>69, the &#8220;Pascal&#8217;s Wager&#8221; argument. But even that&#8217;s phony, because of the logarithmic nature of Arrhenius&#8217; law. Pick any feedback factor, it doesn&#8217;t matter, the result still is that knocking 10 or 20% off of emissions won&#8217;t make a measurable difference. And that&#8217;s not even taking into account the increases from India and China.</p>
<p>The truth is that if this is an actual problem, cap&#8217;n tax is a joke as an answer. I actually find myself agreeing with the most radical environmentalists on one very narrow point: if we do have a real problem, this is pissing in the wind.</p>
<p>So no, this isn&#8217;t even Pascal&#8217;s Wager. This is more like buying a bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Rashputin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rashputin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the cap and trade wins then we turn green, if it loses then we turn toes up brown.&quot;


   ROFLMAO !!!   China and India combined account for what percentage of the planet&#039;s population?  Not only are you so wrong that you&#039;re hilarious, you&#039;re so wrong that you may surpass the idiots who were claiming that only particulate matter released in the US mattered back in the seventies when our use of fuel was sure to bring on an ice age.  Not the particulate matter from China, Russia, Europe, India, or anywhere else, only from the US.  Now, you tell is us that we&#039;re going, &quot;toes up brown&quot; based on what the US does, no matter what the vast majority of the people on the planet do?

  Gawd, it really is entertaining to see people so stupid that they&#039;re a danger to themselves post sanctimonious crap like that.  Thanks for the good laugh, I needed it.

  Have a wonderful last few days on the planet, brown toes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the cap and trade wins then we turn green, if it loses then we turn toes up brown.&#8221;</p>
<p>   ROFLMAO !!!   China and India combined account for what percentage of the planet&#8217;s population?  Not only are you so wrong that you&#8217;re hilarious, you&#8217;re so wrong that you may surpass the idiots who were claiming that only particulate matter released in the US mattered back in the seventies when our use of fuel was sure to bring on an ice age.  Not the particulate matter from China, Russia, Europe, India, or anywhere else, only from the US.  Now, you tell is us that we&#8217;re going, &#8220;toes up brown&#8221; based on what the US does, no matter what the vast majority of the people on the planet do?</p>
<p>  Gawd, it really is entertaining to see people so stupid that they&#8217;re a danger to themselves post sanctimonious crap like that.  Thanks for the good laugh, I needed it.</p>
<p>  Have a wonderful last few days on the planet, brown toes</p>
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