Comments on: Why Steven Rattner is above the law http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:59:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sic Semper Tyrannis « The 3 Monkeys Guide to Health http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-29024 Sic Semper Tyrannis « The 3 Monkeys Guide to Health Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:13:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-29024 [...] laws of our country governing commerce are made by a group of individuals who have never run a business, never met a payroll, have trouble with taxes and who consider major ethical violations to be [...] [...] laws of our country governing commerce are made by a group of individuals who have never run a business, never met a payroll, have trouble with taxes and who consider major ethical violations to be [...]

]]> By: Bilbo http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15697 Bilbo Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:26:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15697 To Jim, You silly fellow! Waterboarding is not "torture" by any international convention signed by the U.S. (that I know of) since it inflicts no bodily injury or permanent psychological damage. These facts can be attested to by the numerous U.S. special forces that undergo waterboarding every year as part of their training. Thus, one can indeed say in truth that John McCain WAS tortured (e.g., having his arms pulled out of their sockets) while the (grand total of) THREE terrorists that were waterboarded were not tortured. See how it works? Also, a rise of 3% in the top marginal tax bracket is not what conservatives are calling socialism. Rather, it is the huge (sometimes controlling) ownership by the U.S. government in car companies, banks, etc. and the call for socialized medicine by the Obama administration that makes conservatives worry that socialism is on the way. This is all totally unconstitutional, but who cares about that except conservatives? Also, where will all the money come from to pay off these huge deficits that Obama has created? Increased taxes FOR ALL over the long run will be the answer (maybe you don't smoke, but you should look into the excise tax hikes that are beginning to be instituted. They are REGRESSIVE and substantial). Are you eyes beginning to open? Oh, don't ever call George W. Bush or his cronies "conservatives"either. The "neo-cons" take their philosophy from the left, just like Obama. Ever wonder where the "neo" in "neo-conservatives" comes from? Bush might have been a social conservative, but he was no fiscal conservative! Bush spent money like a drunken sailor (including domestic social spending). I am a conservative and I hated Bush and many of his policies. But I DESPISE Obama and almost all of his policies. Bush & Cheney like Nazis, huh? That's a bold statement. . To Jim,
You silly fellow! Waterboarding is not “torture” by any international convention signed by the U.S. (that I know of) since it inflicts no bodily injury or permanent psychological damage. These facts can be attested to by the numerous U.S. special forces that undergo waterboarding every year as part of their training. Thus, one can indeed say in truth that John McCain WAS tortured (e.g., having his arms pulled out of their sockets) while the (grand total of) THREE terrorists that were waterboarded were not tortured. See how it works?
Also, a rise of 3% in the top marginal tax bracket is not what conservatives are calling socialism. Rather, it is the huge (sometimes controlling) ownership by the U.S. government in car companies, banks, etc. and the call for socialized medicine by the Obama administration that makes conservatives worry that socialism is on the way. This is all totally unconstitutional, but who cares about that except conservatives? Also, where will all the money come from to pay off these huge deficits that Obama has created? Increased taxes FOR ALL over the long run will be the answer (maybe you don’t smoke, but you should look into the excise tax hikes that are beginning to be instituted. They are REGRESSIVE and substantial). Are you eyes beginning to open?
Oh, don’t ever call George W. Bush or his cronies “conservatives”either. The “neo-cons” take their philosophy from the left, just like Obama. Ever wonder where the “neo” in “neo-conservatives” comes from? Bush might have been a social conservative, but he was no fiscal conservative! Bush spent money like a drunken sailor (including domestic social spending). I am a conservative and I hated Bush and many of his policies. But I DESPISE Obama and almost all of his policies.
Bush & Cheney like Nazis, huh? That’s a bold statement.
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]]> By: Steynian 349 « Free Canuckistan! http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15514 Steynian 349 « Free Canuckistan! Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:45:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15514 [...] ROGER KIMBALL– Why Steven Rattner is above the law: “As Detroit goes,” it used to be said, “so goes [...] [...] ROGER KIMBALL– Why Steven Rattner is above the law: “As Detroit goes,” it used to be said, “so goes [...]

]]> By: Will http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15465 Will Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:04:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15465 Boy, we conservatives really sound hypocritical at times like these. The denial and crass of these pundits - from Rush to Kimball to Krauthammer etc etc - is bewildering. I know that we should be pissed about Rattner, but it's not like the NY Times is denying it or playing it down. The opposite is being done by conservatives (and when did being a conservative mean one should be pro-torture?) in the Washington Times, National Review and others: these publications are taking stances for the mere act of taking a different stance. Devil's advocate my ass. What happened to a thorough and level headed understanding of conservatism instead of this nasty "let's make Obama fail" mongering. Boy, we conservatives really sound hypocritical at times like these. The denial and crass of these pundits – from Rush to Kimball to Krauthammer etc etc – is bewildering. I know that we should be pissed about Rattner, but it’s not like the NY Times is denying it or playing it down. The opposite is being done by conservatives (and when did being a conservative mean one should be pro-torture?) in the Washington Times, National Review and others: these publications are taking stances for the mere act of taking a different stance. Devil’s advocate my ass. What happened to a thorough and level headed understanding of conservatism instead of this nasty “let’s make Obama fail” mongering.

]]> By: Jim http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15451 Jim Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:03:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15451 MainStreet: Actually, Bush did receive torture advice. If you deny that the procedures Bush and Cheney ordered were torture, then you must deny that John McCain was tortured. Waterboarding, to take only one example, has always been considered torture under US law. Waterboarding is featured in the torture museum in Cambodia, as an instance of the horrors perpetrated by Pol Pot's regime. I realize that you Kimballites are so busy calling a 3% increase in the top marginal tax bracket "socialism" to notice, but Bush and Cheney ordered torture. That you belittle this fact reveals something terrible about you and your characters. Remember, MainStreet, that among the Nazi officers hanged by the Allies after World War II were men who'd ordered lesser crimes than the ones Bush and Cheney ordered. By the way, I notice no discussion of any of this from Kimball. Conservatism, it would appear, is now defense of torture. God help us all. MainStreet:

Actually, Bush did receive torture advice. If you deny that the procedures Bush and Cheney ordered were torture, then you must deny that John McCain was tortured. Waterboarding, to take only one example, has always been considered torture under US law. Waterboarding is featured in the torture museum in Cambodia, as an instance of the horrors perpetrated by Pol Pot’s regime.

I realize that you Kimballites are so busy calling a 3% increase in the top marginal tax bracket “socialism” to notice, but Bush and Cheney ordered torture. That you belittle this fact reveals something terrible about you and your characters. Remember, MainStreet, that among the Nazi officers hanged by the Allies after World War II were men who’d ordered lesser crimes than the ones Bush and Cheney ordered.

By the way, I notice no discussion of any of this from Kimball. Conservatism, it would appear, is now defense of torture. God help us all.

]]> By: MainStreet http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15333 MainStreet Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:26:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15333 Sorry! Too busy looking into those who gave "torture" advice to Pres. Bush. Now that is where our problem is. Sorry! Too busy looking into those who gave “torture” advice to Pres. Bush. Now that is where our problem is.

]]> By: Rignerd http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15314 Rignerd Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:48:31 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15314 Some animals are more equal than others. Some animals are more equal than others.

]]> By: Moe Lane » Congress smoking cash. http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15295 Moe Lane » Congress smoking cash. Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:12:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15295 [...] thing. Visclosky, Thompson, Feinstein, Dodd, Moran, Durbin, Pelosi (with a nod to Harman), Summers, Rattner, Murtha… get the point? [...] thing. Visclosky, Thompson, Feinstein, Dodd, Moran, Durbin, Pelosi (with a nod to Harman), Summers, Rattner, Murtha… get the point?

]]> By: Congress smoking cash. - Moe_Lane’s blog - RedState http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15294 Congress smoking cash. - Moe_Lane’s blog - RedState Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:11:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15294 [...] thing. Visclosky, Thompson, Feinstein, Dodd, Moran, Durbin, Pelosi (with a nod to Harman), Summers, Rattner, Murtha… get the point? Because we can keep going: that list barely touches the House, not to [...] [...] thing. Visclosky, Thompson, Feinstein, Dodd, Moran, Durbin, Pelosi (with a nod to Harman), Summers, Rattner, Murtha… get the point? Because we can keep going: that list barely touches the House, not to [...]

]]> By: Herb http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/04/21/why-steven-rattner-is-above-the-law/#comment-15292 Herb Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:49:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball/?p=943#comment-15292 Oh the country is in the very best of hands! (tm) Instapundit Oh the country is in the very best of hands! ™ Instapundit

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