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		<title>By: Hans Moleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Moleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday, in 2 separate incidents, pirates were captured and then released.  Read about it here:(www.mistermoleman.com, second post).

Europe (and possibly now America) are now truly committed to a legalistic, constitutional-rights-protected, police response to every attack, from terrorism to piracy to direct military attacks on our soil.   We would do well to recall Supreme Court Justice Jackson’s (dissenting) comment in the 1930’s Terminiello case, that “the Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact.”  War cannot be waged by policemen armed with Miranda cards;  the UN has tried that many times, from watching genocide in Rwanda to watching rocket attacks on the Lebanon-Israel border.

Obama got off to a good start on confronting pirates, using the right kind of diplomatic negotiations (”Saying ‘Nice doggie’, while looking around for a rock.”)  Now he needs to step up to the big question: Who polices the seas?  In the past, the answer was simple, whether it was piracy or the slave trade: the dominant navy.

We all learned the clever line from the Vietnam War that “we can’t be the cops of the world.”  What we haven’t yet learned is the true nature of a world without cops, with only Dutch and Canadian crossing guards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, in 2 separate incidents, pirates were captured and then released.  Read about it here:(www.mistermoleman.com, second post).</p>
<p>Europe (and possibly now America) are now truly committed to a legalistic, constitutional-rights-protected, police response to every attack, from terrorism to piracy to direct military attacks on our soil.   We would do well to recall Supreme Court Justice Jackson’s (dissenting) comment in the 1930’s Terminiello case, that “the Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact.”  War cannot be waged by policemen armed with Miranda cards;  the UN has tried that many times, from watching genocide in Rwanda to watching rocket attacks on the Lebanon-Israel border.</p>
<p>Obama got off to a good start on confronting pirates, using the right kind of diplomatic negotiations (”Saying ‘Nice doggie’, while looking around for a rock.”)  Now he needs to step up to the big question: Who polices the seas?  In the past, the answer was simple, whether it was piracy or the slave trade: the dominant navy.</p>
<p>We all learned the clever line from the Vietnam War that “we can’t be the cops of the world.”  What we haven’t yet learned is the true nature of a world without cops, with only Dutch and Canadian crossing guards.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the rest of you soros teabaggers: 

George soros became a National Socialist (NAZI) informant at the age of 10, informing on others from his neighborhood to the Gestapo and SS, so to be sent to death camps; he&#039;ll inform on his neighbors to spare his neck, but after he&#039;s done with you, what will you expect in return? A job at staats polizei?

You should consider the source of whom you serve. He will betray you too, he&#039;s betrayed every other in his path so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the rest of you soros teabaggers: </p>
<p>George soros became a National Socialist (NAZI) informant at the age of 10, informing on others from his neighborhood to the Gestapo and SS, so to be sent to death camps; he&#8217;ll inform on his neighbors to spare his neck, but after he&#8217;s done with you, what will you expect in return? A job at staats polizei?</p>
<p>You should consider the source of whom you serve. He will betray you too, he&#8217;s betrayed every other in his path so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that barbarism is never finally defeated is irrelevant. Why would we be discussing barbarism or piracy today if it had withered or been defeated long ago?

The British navy shut down the slave trade market around the circumference of Africa in the 19th century. no small feat. (The circumference of africa is equal to the circumference of the earth)

Oh yeah, they shut it down, all except for the Saudi slave trade which continues to this day.

the saudi&#039;s slave traders would kidnap east africans, and when the British ships of superior speed and range approached the Saudi boats, the slavers would &lt;i&gt;slit the throats of their captives&lt;/i&gt; with a scimitar and dump them into the sea, &lt;i&gt;ridding themselves of the &lt;b&gt;contraband&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. They should have taken all thay saudi trash back somewhere to  serve as slaves themselves, in a nice turnabout, but slavery was verboten, by then (now) wasn&#039;t it? 

And besides, it wouldn&#039;t have put an end to the practice of piracy or slavery, or so these apologists for slavery and piracy keep insisting.

So let&#039;s look instead at the &quot;root causes&quot; of slavery and piracy, now shall we? If we want to look at where slavery and piracy &lt;i&gt;originate&lt;/i&gt;, then we must look at the &quot;structure&quot; of those criminal organisations who still engage in it.

Jesus said &quot;there will always be wars, and rumours of war&quot;. 

Pirates and tribes love to boast of wielding &quot;war&quot; and carelessly spreading rumours of war, on their &quot;enemies&quot;.

And of course, the &lt;i&gt;media&lt;/i&gt; will &lt;i&gt;tart&lt;/i&gt; them up, and romanticise them, (re- distract from) the pirates and the slaver tribes, as (here we go again) the poor, the oppressed, the &quot;freedom fighters&quot; , the &quot;america haters&quot; just like children playing with matches and petrol  cans...

All from the safety and protection of their Eloi parapet.

and this is also true as well for the primitive, superstitious &lt;i&gt;structure&lt;/i&gt; that is the &lt;i&gt; tribe, the clan, (the crime syndicate)&lt;/i&gt;, where the practice of slavery and primitivism &lt;i&gt;originates&lt;/i&gt;, and still flourishes...

That the British stamped out the slave trade in all but one place (the saudi route back from africa) only goes to show how much unfinished businass there remains with these barbarous tribes and clans.

Meanwhile, the president teabaggs the saudi slaver in full view of the cameras, (with only one hand), then denies it, saying he was bent over to grasp the putrid slaver of his east african ancestors with both hands, when the video, and photos contradict this, and show his left hand by his side, dutifully following  the &#039;custom&#039; and protocol when dealing with muslim tribes.

I wonder how many, working so diligently, think they are going to get bumped up to the presidents personal teabagger, I can think of one here tonight; he reads &lt;i&gt;&quot;mastubation for dummies&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, because he was told that he is the one he has been waiting for. 

He&#039;s going to junior college, and majoring in &quot;Off Topic Studies&quot;, with a minor in personal attacks and regurgitation. His mom, or one of his handlers has called him away, because its past his bedtime, and he isn&#039;t going to get that world of warcraft console unless he does. But he wants to share his dream with us of being lifted away from these boards, and teabagging the president.

I suspect he is also one of those food perverts, who puts his boogers on the pizza dough. But then again, its obvious he has never worked or held a real job before in his life: as he has never learned to show anyone, least of all his frushtrated and dissappointed self, any respect whatsoever.

Pity this hopeless sinner, for he is days away from his suicide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that barbarism is never finally defeated is irrelevant. Why would we be discussing barbarism or piracy today if it had withered or been defeated long ago?</p>
<p>The British navy shut down the slave trade market around the circumference of Africa in the 19th century. no small feat. (The circumference of africa is equal to the circumference of the earth)</p>
<p>Oh yeah, they shut it down, all except for the Saudi slave trade which continues to this day.</p>
<p>the saudi&#8217;s slave traders would kidnap east africans, and when the British ships of superior speed and range approached the Saudi boats, the slavers would <i>slit the throats of their captives</i> with a scimitar and dump them into the sea, <i>ridding themselves of the <b>contraband</b></i>. They should have taken all thay saudi trash back somewhere to  serve as slaves themselves, in a nice turnabout, but slavery was verboten, by then (now) wasn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>And besides, it wouldn&#8217;t have put an end to the practice of piracy or slavery, or so these apologists for slavery and piracy keep insisting.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s look instead at the &#8220;root causes&#8221; of slavery and piracy, now shall we? If we want to look at where slavery and piracy <i>originate</i>, then we must look at the &#8220;structure&#8221; of those criminal organisations who still engage in it.</p>
<p>Jesus said &#8220;there will always be wars, and rumours of war&#8221;. </p>
<p>Pirates and tribes love to boast of wielding &#8220;war&#8221; and carelessly spreading rumours of war, on their &#8220;enemies&#8221;.</p>
<p>And of course, the <i>media</i> will <i>tart</i> them up, and romanticise them, (re- distract from) the pirates and the slaver tribes, as (here we go again) the poor, the oppressed, the &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221; , the &#8220;america haters&#8221; just like children playing with matches and petrol  cans&#8230;</p>
<p>All from the safety and protection of their Eloi parapet.</p>
<p>and this is also true as well for the primitive, superstitious <i>structure</i> that is the <i> tribe, the clan, (the crime syndicate)</i>, where the practice of slavery and primitivism <i>originates</i>, and still flourishes&#8230;</p>
<p>That the British stamped out the slave trade in all but one place (the saudi route back from africa) only goes to show how much unfinished businass there remains with these barbarous tribes and clans.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the president teabaggs the saudi slaver in full view of the cameras, (with only one hand), then denies it, saying he was bent over to grasp the putrid slaver of his east african ancestors with both hands, when the video, and photos contradict this, and show his left hand by his side, dutifully following  the &#8216;custom&#8217; and protocol when dealing with muslim tribes.</p>
<p>I wonder how many, working so diligently, think they are going to get bumped up to the presidents personal teabagger, I can think of one here tonight; he reads <i>&#8220;mastubation for dummies&#8221;</i>, because he was told that he is the one he has been waiting for. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s going to junior college, and majoring in &#8220;Off Topic Studies&#8221;, with a minor in personal attacks and regurgitation. His mom, or one of his handlers has called him away, because its past his bedtime, and he isn&#8217;t going to get that world of warcraft console unless he does. But he wants to share his dream with us of being lifted away from these boards, and teabagging the president.</p>
<p>I suspect he is also one of those food perverts, who puts his boogers on the pizza dough. But then again, its obvious he has never worked or held a real job before in his life: as he has never learned to show anyone, least of all his frushtrated and dissappointed self, any respect whatsoever.</p>
<p>Pity this hopeless sinner, for he is days away from his suicide</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Thomson:
talking about Harvard, perfect example for you: W! Time to get rid of the family connection clauses.</description>
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talking about Harvard, perfect example for you: W! Time to get rid of the family connection clauses.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred
thanks for inventing yet another conspiracy. But who would bother when Kimball&#039;s utter lack of logc and integrity are so blatant that any honest intelligent person can drive a tank through it&#039;s holes.
That&#039;s right, someone disagrees with crackpotted morons so they have to be some evil conspirator, planning the downfall of hte US. Get your gun and web gear and stand guard duty soldier!
So you once bought all the left wing hokum, now you buy all the right wing hokum hook, line and sinker, because you are just a dumb sucker who can&#039;t think outside some labyrinth of canned crackpot theories and conspiracies! Wanna buy some land in Florida?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred<br />
thanks for inventing yet another conspiracy. But who would bother when Kimball&#8217;s utter lack of logc and integrity are so blatant that any honest intelligent person can drive a tank through it&#8217;s holes.<br />
That&#8217;s right, someone disagrees with crackpotted morons so they have to be some evil conspirator, planning the downfall of hte US. Get your gun and web gear and stand guard duty soldier!<br />
So you once bought all the left wing hokum, now you buy all the right wing hokum hook, line and sinker, because you are just a dumb sucker who can&#8217;t think outside some labyrinth of canned crackpot theories and conspiracies! Wanna buy some land in Florida?</p>
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		<title>By: The Historian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LET&#039;S HIJACK THE PIRATES BUSINESS MODEL
They are doing way better than Wall Street!

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/hijacking-pirates-business-model.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LET&#8217;S HIJACK THE PIRATES BUSINESS MODEL<br />
They are doing way better than Wall Street!</p>
<p><a href="http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/hijacking-pirates-business-model.html" rel="nofollow">http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/hijacking-pirates-business-model.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snaphanen &#187; Det personificerede hykleri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snaphanen &#187; Det personificerede hykleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barbarism is never finally defeated; given propitious circumstances, men and women who seem quite orderly will commit every conceivable atrocity. The danger does not come merely from habitual hooligans; we are all potential recruits for anarchy. Unremitting effort is needed to keep men living together at peace; there is only a margin of energy left over for experiment however beneficent. Once the prisons of the mind have been opened, the orgy is on. There is no more agreeable position than that of dissident from a stable society. Theirs are all the solid advantages of other people&#8217;s creation and preservation, and all the fun of detecting hypocrisies and inconsistencies. There are times when dissidents are not only enviable but valuable. The work of preserving society is sometimes onerous, sometimes almost effortless. The more elaborate the society, the more vulnerable it is to attack, and the more complete its collapse in case of defeat. At a time like the present it is notably precarious. If it falls we shall see not merely the dissolution of a few joint-stock corporations, but of the spiritual and material achievements of our history. [...] Obama&#8217;s societal Blitzkrieg: the rise of piracy as a metaphor for the retribalization of the w... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Barbarism is never finally defeated; given propitious circumstances, men and women who seem quite orderly will commit every conceivable atrocity. The danger does not come merely from habitual hooligans; we are all potential recruits for anarchy. Unremitting effort is needed to keep men living together at peace; there is only a margin of energy left over for experiment however beneficent. Once the prisons of the mind have been opened, the orgy is on. There is no more agreeable position than that of dissident from a stable society. Theirs are all the solid advantages of other people&#8217;s creation and preservation, and all the fun of detecting hypocrisies and inconsistencies. There are times when dissidents are not only enviable but valuable. The work of preserving society is sometimes onerous, sometimes almost effortless. The more elaborate the society, the more vulnerable it is to attack, and the more complete its collapse in case of defeat. At a time like the present it is notably precarious. If it falls we shall see not merely the dissolution of a few joint-stock corporations, but of the spiritual and material achievements of our history. [...] Obama&#8217;s societal Blitzkrieg: the rise of piracy as a metaphor for the retribalization of the w&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JackT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to get to the root of the problem, just killing pirates on the seas will not make them go away. Somalia is huge, there are millions of others the clans can recruit. Besides, aren&#039;t you Republicans complaining about spending? Who&#039;s going to pay for all this anyway? The Somali coast line is 2000 miles long, we don&#039;t have the man power to patrol another counties coast waiting for pirates to trike. You people are ridiculous, guns will not solve all of our problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to get to the root of the problem, just killing pirates on the seas will not make them go away. Somalia is huge, there are millions of others the clans can recruit. Besides, aren&#8217;t you Republicans complaining about spending? Who&#8217;s going to pay for all this anyway? The Somali coast line is 2000 miles long, we don&#8217;t have the man power to patrol another counties coast waiting for pirates to trike. You people are ridiculous, guns will not solve all of our problems.</p>
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		<title>By: knoodsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>knoodsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>merchant ships are not armed due to business concerns; the shipping companies have thought it through and they have not (so far) chosen to accept the costs and liabilities.  it makes perfect sense.  we long ago ceased concerning ourselves with what might be the right, or at least bright, thing to do and think only in terms of monetary cost.  giving our president credit for allowing the rescue of captain phillips is obscene.  being held at gunpopint by pirates places one in imminent danger.  when the good guy leapt into the sea, the navy could hae destroyed the pirates and/or lifeboat. end of problem.  apparently, he had initially not allowed a rescue.  great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>merchant ships are not armed due to business concerns; the shipping companies have thought it through and they have not (so far) chosen to accept the costs and liabilities.  it makes perfect sense.  we long ago ceased concerning ourselves with what might be the right, or at least bright, thing to do and think only in terms of monetary cost.  giving our president credit for allowing the rescue of captain phillips is obscene.  being held at gunpopint by pirates places one in imminent danger.  when the good guy leapt into the sea, the navy could hae destroyed the pirates and/or lifeboat. end of problem.  apparently, he had initially not allowed a rescue.  great job.</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 345 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 345 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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