I guess we should forget the death of millions in Germany at the hands of Hitler because he brought around economic change in Germany(post ww I) and under his leadership the Nazis brought forth the Autobahn, jet propulsion, and the Volkswagon.

Thomas Jefferson is no longer a Founding Father he is simply an evil slave owner.
Christopher Columbus no longer is the man who opened America to Western Civilization he is a American Indian Oppressor.
The United States is no longer the country that fought a war to abolish slavery, we are simply slave owners.

If that reasoning continues what will come next?

Obama is no longer the poster child for liberal radicals, he is a cokehead (he admitted to using cocaine)

How does that sit with you Anti-American revisionists?

The Taking and Displaying of Human Body Parts as Trophies by Amerindians‎
by Richard J. Chacon, David H. Dye (2007)

There’s a primer via Google Books.

Let’s look at the other “powers” who couldn’t but would’ve, if they could’ve, shall we?

Islam- already in deep decline by 1492, but they would’ve slaughtered everyone in their path, as they are wont to do. In fact, because they lost to the Polish army in Vienna, the pathetic, beaten, hulk fixed its sights on India, where they thought resistance was less of a risk. And guess what? They slaughtered and destroyed everything in their path there. Do a google search of Islam 1499-1750 and behold the carnage there in Asia.

Russia- Peter the Great said that if he could conquer all the way to the Persian Gulf for russia, he would then rule the world. He didn’t succeed, and soviet union was keenly aware of Peter’s strategy, russian republic of today (such as it is) is too. Look at history of Eastern Europe under Soviet rule, Romania, Moldova, Yugoslavia, etc. Bloody fripping repression.

China- Colonized most of Asia, but were starting to decline by this point. They measured their influence culturally, and could not enforce it militarily after a while. Chinese, with their frugal, hard working ethic, were and are to this day resented in places such as Indonesia, Malaysia. When Geithner crashed the Indonesian and Malay economy in 1997, much anger and resentment toward ‘ethnic chinese’ there spilled over into outright violence against ethnic chinese there, based on centuries of ‘ethnic’ chinese presence there.

So, who’s left?

Japan, Japan unified in 1700′s, but would have to wait until 20th century to begin their reign of terror, after their defeat by U.S., Soviet Union would try to annex what Japan controlled in Manchuria, and were driven out.

No nation or empire was able to do what they wanted to do in 1492, except disparate and competing nations such as Holland, Spain, etc in 1492.

That competing nations in Europe held no single monopoly on colonisation in 1500′s: they fought for influence in the Americas. If there was such a thing as a ‘Europe’, beyond the geographical designations, then they were poised to expand based on the progress they had made specifically for having fought expansionist, Imperial Islam for centuries, and defeated them decisively the very year Columbus set sail.

I’ll take European progress and influence over the evil empire of Islam any day, and the casual, lazy leftist, who cloaks his european, marxist ideology in a finger-pointing exercise directed at “all things” “europe” and “america” [read U.S.] conveniently omitting all things, I emphasize all things historically Islam in favour of europen marxist expansionism is just so much Ward Churchill and the Gnome Chompski. Specious, irrelevant, lazy, slacker, vapid, morose, vacuous, nihilistic, pagan, psychotic, projective, deceptive, disingenuous, propagandik, racist, totalitarian, Imperialistic excrement and dogma. Lacking any real, plausible context whatsoever.

Perpetrated by those of no imagination, who never created anything of value whatsoever. and their toadies.

There are roughly 300,000,000 millions murdered through the use of athiest totalitarian socialist regimes. Under the despotic rule of names such as Pol Pot, Whore Chi Men, Mao (70 millions murdered), Stalin (“One murder is a tragedy, 1 millions murdered in a statistic), Lenin, Hitler, Castro, Chichescu, Castro, Chavez, Chirac, Blair, Mussolini, Wilson, FDR, Mufti of Jerusalem, Saddam, Bashir Assad, Gamal Nasser, Mullah Omar, Ayatollah KKKhomeini (he is (was) 1/2 scottish and 1/2 Indian, not Persian) and so on.

Some with a bullet to the back of the head, but the vast majority worked and starved to death.

American Indian tribes murdered each other, in centuries old revenge cycles for centuries. american Indian tribes continually allied themselves with European colonists with the intent of obliterating, or at lest severely harming their (other) rival Indian tribes: Even the Apache were terrified of the Comanche: the comanche would wait until the men left the village to hunt, and kill and steal everything in the village, and then eat the bodies of those they slaughtered, women and children. Noble savages. Yeah right…

the leftist paradigm is a nihilist, cult of death, with infant sacrifice as its sacrament. No wonder they have so much in common with other, superstitious cults of murder and death, and their proclivity for specious argument, and Sophistry.

How else to put themselves in charge, in power, in “control” of that which they did nothing, nothing to earn? And by doing so, merely con the weak and blitzkrieged into guilt and surrender of those things they worked honestly to gain.

I won’t apologise for European or United states heritage in the face of psychotic, pathological liars posing as “academics” with absolutely no scholarship under their belts, other than the trojan horse propagandikkk brainwashing ruse of european atheist marxism as their contribution

And 0 is a europeed’on, marxist oreo cookie. Raised on that Sheid, by europeon ideologist Frank Davis and others his white europeon grandparents brainwashed him with. And he throws them under the bus, or evokes their war service, when convenient, as the opportunistic coward he is.

“Brown” University academics can kiss my hind, and suck up all that europeon marxist death cult nihilism, since that’s where it all originates, in the first place.

@ Christina

Study Chinese history. Really. Study it and leave your generalizations at home.

So it is, though I would exclude China from your example: until the advent of communism, it had been a fully articulated and rich civilization, despite its authoritarianism, conformity, and the ups and downs of history.
Your Hobbesian definition fits the Muslim world perfectly.

Sorry for losing my temper on your blog, but thanks to the moderator for letting my “offensive speech” go through… There’s only so much school/academia-cultivated ignorance I can take. No matter how polite you want to be, what do you call someone who believes millions were killed by “European exploitation” in China and has, moreover, the nerve to assert it as evidence in an argument, without any sign of skepticism in the facts and numbers he/she deploys?? An “ignoramus” or “stultus”? Or maybe “idiota,” which takes us straight back to “moron”:

http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8632

I think we’ve come to a point where what I call “directed/cultivated ignorance” (nothing to do with simple lack of education; people like “Urf” are, usually, “well-educated” in academic terms) has to be named as such, pointed out, its voluntary practitioners exposed at every step they utter lies and propaganda.

I also want to thank you for mentioning Keith Windshuttle and his superb book. His is pure scholarship, flawless analysis in debunking post-modern myths about the evils perpetrated by the “white man.” Plus, each chapter reads like a mystery, an exquisite exploration of facts entangled with their interpretive history.