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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Enemy Combatants,&#8221; David Hume, and &#8220;Islamophobia&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/03/15/enemy-combatants-david-hume-and-islamophobia/#comment-13397</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ChipD, you &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; a chip off the ol&#039; pile:

In your concern for &quot;abandoning the Geneva Convention&quot;, have you concern for who it was that first abandoned said Geneva Conventions?

So, Listen Up. for I will add, for the sake of clarity, that it, now and  forever shall be further mentioned, as The &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rules&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of the Geneva Conventions.

And those &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rules&lt;/b&lt;/i&gt; state quite clearly, that those nations who engage in warfare against (an)other nation(s) &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;wear&lt;/i&gt;that nations &lt;b&gt;uniform&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;bear&lt;/i&gt; that &lt;b&gt;nations &lt;i&gt;insignia&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, in order to &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;qualify&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; for those  prisoner protections provided to &lt;i&gt;those soldiers&lt;/i&gt; whose nations &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt; abide&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; by the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rules&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of  the Geneva Conventions.

And now why would that be? To whom would those &lt;i&gt;protections&lt;/i&gt; apply?

Those &lt;i&gt;protections,&lt;/i&gt; apply to those soldiers who &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;wear the uniform&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of their &lt;b&gt;nation&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;bear&lt;/b&gt; that nations &lt;b&gt;insignia,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; so that Those Soldiers would be protected &lt;i&gt; under those rules&lt;/i&gt;, as would &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;all&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  soldiers whose country&#039;s abide by and respected the Rules of the Geneva Convention.

So, it (the it in this case being &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the Rules&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of the Geneva Convention, remember those?)  exists to protect those soldiers, no matter who &quot;started it&quot;. It being whatever &quot;war&quot; it is in question.

So, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and co. not only do not qualify under &lt;i&gt;the &lt;b&gt;Rules&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of the Geneva Convention, THEY HAVE WILLFULLY, AND PURPOSELY &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;DISQUALIFIED&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; THEMSELVES UNDER THE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;RULES&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION.

So the Rules of The Geneva Convention have not been abandoned, now have they ChipD? No. and Not by U.S.

&lt;i&gt;And you talk of Strawmen?&lt;/i&gt; Shame on you. Shame on you.

Shame on you.

To abuse the Rules of the Geneva Convention the way you do makes a mockery of them and everything else dear in this world in ways you could scarcely even imagine, and in doing so imperils them and throws &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt; and all else that evolved from the application of the mind and reason G-d gave us to the very flames of chaos and disorder in precisely the means and the method that these &lt;i&gt;enemies of humanity &lt;/i&gt; fully intended all along. thanks Chip.

and to abuse the Rules of the Geneva Convention as you and others do, is nothing short of suicidal, again, in ways you and others have neither the imagination, nor the logic to perceive.

You and your ilk are just as dangerous as they are. 

we go through this time and time again, we with the logic, and reason and You, with the megaphone, the blathering and the bloviating that destroys the very thing it is you invoke. 

So, could you and the &#039;others&#039;  sho&#039;nuff do us all a favor and show just maybe enough respect to put on the uniform and insignia of whoever or whatever it is you are fighting for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ChipD, you <i>are</i> a chip off the ol&#8217; pile:</p>
<p>In your concern for &#8220;abandoning the Geneva Convention&#8221;, have you concern for who it was that first abandoned said Geneva Conventions?</p>
<p>So, Listen Up. for I will add, for the sake of clarity, that it, now and  forever shall be further mentioned, as The <b><i>Rules</i></b> of the Geneva Conventions.</p>
<p>And those <b><i>Rules&lt;/b</i> state quite clearly, that those nations who engage in warfare against (an)other nation(s) </b><b>must</b> <i>wear</i>that nations <b>uniform</b>, and <i>bear</i> that <b>nations <i>insignia</i></b>, in order to <b><i>qualify</i></b> for those  prisoner protections provided to <i>those soldiers</i> whose nations <b><i> abide</i></b> by the <b><i>Rules</i></b> of  the Geneva Conventions.</p>
<p>And now why would that be? To whom would those <i>protections</i> apply?</p>
<p>Those <i>protections,</i> apply to those soldiers who <b><i>wear the uniform</i></b> of their <b>nation</b>, and <b><i>bear</i></b> that nations <b>insignia,</b> so that Those Soldiers would be protected <i> under those rules</i>, as would <b><i>all</i></b>  soldiers whose country&#8217;s abide by and respected the Rules of the Geneva Convention.</p>
<p>So, it (the it in this case being <b><i>the Rules</i></b> of the Geneva Convention, remember those?)  exists to protect those soldiers, no matter who &#8220;started it&#8221;. It being whatever &#8220;war&#8221; it is in question.</p>
<p>So, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and co. not only do not qualify under <i>the <b>Rules</b></i> of the Geneva Convention, THEY HAVE WILLFULLY, AND PURPOSELY <b><i>DISQUALIFIED</i></b> THEMSELVES UNDER THE <i><b>RULES</b></i> OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION.</p>
<p>So the Rules of The Geneva Convention have not been abandoned, now have they ChipD? No. and Not by U.S.</p>
<p><i>And you talk of Strawmen?</i> Shame on you. Shame on you.</p>
<p>Shame on you.</p>
<p>To abuse the Rules of the Geneva Convention the way you do makes a mockery of them and everything else dear in this world in ways you could scarcely even imagine, and in doing so imperils them and throws <i>them</i> and all else that evolved from the application of the mind and reason G-d gave us to the very flames of chaos and disorder in precisely the means and the method that these <i>enemies of humanity </i> fully intended all along. thanks Chip.</p>
<p>and to abuse the Rules of the Geneva Convention as you and others do, is nothing short of suicidal, again, in ways you and others have neither the imagination, nor the logic to perceive.</p>
<p>You and your ilk are just as dangerous as they are. </p>
<p>we go through this time and time again, we with the logic, and reason and You, with the megaphone, the blathering and the bloviating that destroys the very thing it is you invoke. </p>
<p>So, could you and the &#8216;others&#8217;  sho&#8217;nuff do us all a favor and show just maybe enough respect to put on the uniform and insignia of whoever or whatever it is you are fighting for?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/03/15/enemy-combatants-david-hume-and-islamophobia/#comment-13367</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s return to Hume&#039;s text, shall we?

&lt;i&gt;But would we know, whether the pretended prophet had really attained a just sentiment of morals? Let us attend to his narration; and we shall soon find, that he bestows praise on such instances of treachery, inhumanity, cruelty, revenge, bigotry, as are utterly incompatible with civilized society. No steady rule of right seems there to be attended to; and every action is blamed or praised, so far only as it is beneficial or hurtful to the true believers.&lt;/i&gt;

And let&#039;s not forget child abduction, child kidnapping, child murder and beheading- A/K/A &lt;i&gt;honor killings&lt;/i&gt;, child rape, forced child marriages, or the Sudanese Moslems in the north, near Khartoum, who, when they asked for  reasonable, just compensation for the oil reserves and revenues exploited by the chinese (on &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; land, the land they have dwelt on for millenia) were answered with slaughter, rape, mass murder, subjected to slow and agonizing death by starvation, thirst, and whatever else the elements the could deliver, one can&#039;t but ask- All in the name of what? That they were infidels perhaps? 

And not just delivered by the (Islamic) &quot;government&quot; in Kartoum, but by imported JanJawed to put down &quot;this perception of Freedom and autonomy gone wild&quot;.

Kinda reminds me of that &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; Islamist sympathizer and national socialist who, after accepting surrender from Holland, then proceeded to bomb Rotterdam to rubble, then machine gun strafe from airplanes any remaining survivors fleeing the city that choked the roadways- Adolf Hitler.

In Hitler&#039;s case, those 60.000 post-surrendered dead, most likely represented target practice for those in cities like Stalingrad, or London or New York that stood in the way of national socialist expansion. Why Darfur remains a question not even answered by a  Khalid Sheikh Mohameds &quot;badge of honor&quot; chest-thumping rhetoric.

I long ago ceased to regard these professional slaughterhouses of humanity and their (financial) supporters as peaceful practitioners of a religion, but for those who elevate them to the status of singular spokespersons for the cause of &quot;social justice&quot; and  &quot;freedom fighting&quot; everywhere, by stampeding across those who just might be peacefully practicing Islam, just to get the micophones and cameras in close so as to give voice to all that exiting, &quot;tingle down my leg&quot;, uh &quot;journalizm&quot;, well, my answer is, uh, &quot;sorry, no sale&quot;.

And besides, this practice has been going on for quite a while, and ubhamas administration tut-tuting, and ha-rumphing the deeds of &lt;i&gt;the enemies of humanity&lt;/i&gt;, domestic variety, have been ongoing and this is but the latest installment, nay, indeed  &lt;i&gt;evolution!&lt;/i&gt; of clarification on this very delicate, offending-producing, misapplication of &quot;labels&quot;. Or so they would have us believe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s return to Hume&#8217;s text, shall we?</p>
<p><i>But would we know, whether the pretended prophet had really attained a just sentiment of morals? Let us attend to his narration; and we shall soon find, that he bestows praise on such instances of treachery, inhumanity, cruelty, revenge, bigotry, as are utterly incompatible with civilized society. No steady rule of right seems there to be attended to; and every action is blamed or praised, so far only as it is beneficial or hurtful to the true believers.</i></p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget child abduction, child kidnapping, child murder and beheading- A/K/A <i>honor killings</i>, child rape, forced child marriages, or the Sudanese Moslems in the north, near Khartoum, who, when they asked for  reasonable, just compensation for the oil reserves and revenues exploited by the chinese (on <i>their</i> land, the land they have dwelt on for millenia) were answered with slaughter, rape, mass murder, subjected to slow and agonizing death by starvation, thirst, and whatever else the elements the could deliver, one can&#8217;t but ask- All in the name of what? That they were infidels perhaps? </p>
<p>And not just delivered by the (Islamic) &#8220;government&#8221; in Kartoum, but by imported JanJawed to put down &#8220;this perception of Freedom and autonomy gone wild&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kinda reminds me of that <i>other</i> Islamist sympathizer and national socialist who, after accepting surrender from Holland, then proceeded to bomb Rotterdam to rubble, then machine gun strafe from airplanes any remaining survivors fleeing the city that choked the roadways- Adolf Hitler.</p>
<p>In Hitler&#8217;s case, those 60.000 post-surrendered dead, most likely represented target practice for those in cities like Stalingrad, or London or New York that stood in the way of national socialist expansion. Why Darfur remains a question not even answered by a  Khalid Sheikh Mohameds &#8220;badge of honor&#8221; chest-thumping rhetoric.</p>
<p>I long ago ceased to regard these professional slaughterhouses of humanity and their (financial) supporters as peaceful practitioners of a religion, but for those who elevate them to the status of singular spokespersons for the cause of &#8220;social justice&#8221; and  &#8220;freedom fighting&#8221; everywhere, by stampeding across those who just might be peacefully practicing Islam, just to get the micophones and cameras in close so as to give voice to all that exiting, &#8220;tingle down my leg&#8221;, uh &#8220;journalizm&#8221;, well, my answer is, uh, &#8220;sorry, no sale&#8221;.</p>
<p>And besides, this practice has been going on for quite a while, and ubhamas administration tut-tuting, and ha-rumphing the deeds of <i>the enemies of humanity</i>, domestic variety, have been ongoing and this is but the latest installment, nay, indeed  <i>evolution!</i> of clarification on this very delicate, offending-producing, misapplication of &#8220;labels&#8221;. Or so they would have us believe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChipD</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/03/15/enemy-combatants-david-hume-and-islamophobia/#comment-13356</link>
		<dc:creator>ChipD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please...isn&#039;t this just another straw man, erected to pummel?
Yes, of course, anyone who questions our Government&#039;s right to do whatever it wishes, whenever it wishes, is obviously a lover of terrorists, who hates America, and probably kicks his dog.

Is abandoning the Geneva Conventions REALLY the only way to protect us from attack? Is it really only crazed leftists who are alarmed at the massive enlargement of Goverenment power that the war on terror has given us?

Maybe this is why conservatism is adrift- it prefers to chase after the ghosts of long-dead Socialists, to dealing with the hard questions of the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please&#8230;isn&#8217;t this just another straw man, erected to pummel?<br />
Yes, of course, anyone who questions our Government&#8217;s right to do whatever it wishes, whenever it wishes, is obviously a lover of terrorists, who hates America, and probably kicks his dog.</p>
<p>Is abandoning the Geneva Conventions REALLY the only way to protect us from attack? Is it really only crazed leftists who are alarmed at the massive enlargement of Goverenment power that the war on terror has given us?</p>
<p>Maybe this is why conservatism is adrift- it prefers to chase after the ghosts of long-dead Socialists, to dealing with the hard questions of the present.</p>
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		<title>By: ehunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ehunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or is the whole notion of Islamophobia one of those strange epistemic perversions of language that makes the just apprehension of reality impossible?

Of course it is..and thats the entire intention of the whole MultiCulturalist enterprise..and much of the modern University..
&quot;to make the just apprehension of reality impossible&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or is the whole notion of Islamophobia one of those strange epistemic perversions of language that makes the just apprehension of reality impossible?</p>
<p>Of course it is..and thats the entire intention of the whole MultiCulturalist enterprise..and much of the modern University..<br />
&#8220;to make the just apprehension of reality impossible&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: heathermc</title>
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		<dc:creator>heathermc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the word &quot;phobia&quot; denigrates an opinion or judgement into a medical problem, a malady that can and should be treated (by professional experts) with measures of serotonin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the word &#8220;phobia&#8221; denigrates an opinion or judgement into a medical problem, a malady that can and should be treated (by professional experts) with measures of serotonin.</p>
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		<title>By: elvis</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/03/15/enemy-combatants-david-hume-and-islamophobia/#comment-13329</link>
		<dc:creator>elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know i read somewhere that a society that waters down it&#039;s language and changes definitions of words it a society on the way out.
Maybe someone could help mw with where that is from???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know i read somewhere that a society that waters down it&#8217;s language and changes definitions of words it a society on the way out.<br />
Maybe someone could help mw with where that is from???</p>
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		<title>By: Gaffe Prices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaffe Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just gets more Orwellian by the second.

Yeah, well and two or three can gather together to play this game too, that why I&#039;ve taken to calling the whole kit and kaboddle of what&#039;s shoveled out of D.C nothing but &lt;i&gt;grudge packages.&lt;/i&gt;  stead a &quot;stimulus&quot;.

D.C. Comic bookland can stop calling them enemy combatants, but I started calling them the enemies of humanity a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just gets more Orwellian by the second.</p>
<p>Yeah, well and two or three can gather together to play this game too, that why I&#8217;ve taken to calling the whole kit and kaboddle of what&#8217;s shoveled out of D.C nothing but <i>grudge packages.</i>  stead a &#8220;stimulus&#8221;.</p>
<p>D.C. Comic bookland can stop calling them enemy combatants, but I started calling them the enemies of humanity a long time ago.</p>
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