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		<title>By: Georgia Peach</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/02/14/real-and-tangible-progress-for-the-american-people/#comment-11408</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgia Peach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are indeed a &quot;youngNaiveBiatch&quot;.

Not all Republicans agreed with the war.  Far from it.  

The War is now obama&#039;s war.  He just issued orders to send THOUSANDS more troops to war.  Of course he did it without the press.  On the QT.  
 
The responsibility for this financial debacle lies on the backs of the Dems in congress when they changed regulatory laws and encouraged, nay forced, banks to create subprime loans so that &quot;everyone could have the dream of home ownership&quot;.  

Excuse me while I puke!  

Dems, while receiving hundreds of thousands of $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie, put those companies under the wing of the Federal Government.  It&#039;s no surprise that obama was second pig in line for the most $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie.

Go take a basic economic course if you want to put your two cents in on these issues.  At least spending on wars are stimulating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are indeed a &#8220;youngNaiveBiatch&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not all Republicans agreed with the war.  Far from it.  </p>
<p>The War is now obama&#8217;s war.  He just issued orders to send THOUSANDS more troops to war.  Of course he did it without the press.  On the QT.  </p>
<p>The responsibility for this financial debacle lies on the backs of the Dems in congress when they changed regulatory laws and encouraged, nay forced, banks to create subprime loans so that &#8220;everyone could have the dream of home ownership&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Excuse me while I puke!  </p>
<p>Dems, while receiving hundreds of thousands of $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie, put those companies under the wing of the Federal Government.  It&#8217;s no surprise that obama was second pig in line for the most $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie.</p>
<p>Go take a basic economic course if you want to put your two cents in on these issues.  At least spending on wars are stimulating.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungNaiveBIATCH</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/02/14/real-and-tangible-progress-for-the-american-people/#comment-11321</link>
		<dc:creator>YoungNaiveBIATCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose Republicans only like spending massive amounts of money on things that blow up: Iraq, Afghanistan, Merrill Lynch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose Republicans only like spending massive amounts of money on things that blow up: Iraq, Afghanistan, Merrill Lynch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trid</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2009/02/14/real-and-tangible-progress-for-the-american-people/#comment-11175</link>
		<dc:creator>Trid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone else get the full text of the Bacon Bill?
I keep trying to reach it, but the site keeps hanging.

So much for transparency.   :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone else get the full text of the Bacon Bill?<br />
I keep trying to reach it, but the site keeps hanging.</p>
<p>So much for transparency.   <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daily Blogger - Tuesday, February 17th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Blogger - Tuesday, February 17th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a president who praises this $787 billion act of government gluttony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a president who praises this $787 billion act of government gluttony</p>
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		<title>By: view from afar</title>
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		<dc:creator>view from afar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivo, you get a huge kick out of coming on pjm and thinking all these conservatives can&#039;t sleep at night because of your clever one liners...you have even bragged about showing these to your 
friends(?) and discussing your clever one-liners and laughing hysterically...whatever it sounds very sad to me.
Now you have two people who have answered your &quot;jokes&quot; with serious comments, nothing is fueled by anger, wow, you&#039;ve disappeared.  If your so sure that socialism is wonderful, why haven&#039;t you moved somewhere where socialism works?  France will take Americans who are willing to come and work, and then all you have to do is get laid off...oh, is it because the standard of living is not to your hauteur?  It isnt, I know I live here.  But i&#039;ve complained enough about that.
Great article, I so agree, plus the big question that worries the French is where is the US going to get the money to pay off all of the debt, it&#039;s in the farmer&#039;s magazines for G&#039;s sakes! But all is glorious...I was watching Foxnews and I saw two guys (one the CEO of Goggle-I know_ and the other some economist from NY) and they both said that we will most likely need another stimulus bill to finish helping the economy and that this is NOT enough!!! God help us
Oh and Jonas...Abraham pleaded for Lot&#039;s life on a mountain, with God.  ANd the pleading was if there was a 100 worth saving, would you save S&amp;G?  Even if there were only 1 he would save it for the sake of the one.  By the way that is allegory for Christ saving the world even if it would only be for one person...but that isn&#039;t the point, or is it? ( that one our messiah?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivo, you get a huge kick out of coming on pjm and thinking all these conservatives can&#8217;t sleep at night because of your clever one liners&#8230;you have even bragged about showing these to your<br />
friends(?) and discussing your clever one-liners and laughing hysterically&#8230;whatever it sounds very sad to me.<br />
Now you have two people who have answered your &#8220;jokes&#8221; with serious comments, nothing is fueled by anger, wow, you&#8217;ve disappeared.  If your so sure that socialism is wonderful, why haven&#8217;t you moved somewhere where socialism works?  France will take Americans who are willing to come and work, and then all you have to do is get laid off&#8230;oh, is it because the standard of living is not to your hauteur?  It isnt, I know I live here.  But i&#8217;ve complained enough about that.<br />
Great article, I so agree, plus the big question that worries the French is where is the US going to get the money to pay off all of the debt, it&#8217;s in the farmer&#8217;s magazines for G&#8217;s sakes! But all is glorious&#8230;I was watching Foxnews and I saw two guys (one the CEO of Goggle-I know_ and the other some economist from NY) and they both said that we will most likely need another stimulus bill to finish helping the economy and that this is NOT enough!!! God help us<br />
Oh and Jonas&#8230;Abraham pleaded for Lot&#8217;s life on a mountain, with God.  ANd the pleading was if there was a 100 worth saving, would you save S&amp;G?  Even if there were only 1 he would save it for the sake of the one.  By the way that is allegory for Christ saving the world even if it would only be for one person&#8230;but that isn&#8217;t the point, or is it? ( that one our messiah?)</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>95. Войска ПВО:

Delia writes: “Watch that. My version of the acronym..”

Sorry, Delia. I seemed to have tread rather heavily onto your turf and hereby cede you rights of authorship with grudging counsel that POTUS has always been the accepted acronym for the president of the United States.
~

Aww. You took all the gas outta my funnin&#039;. *sniff*

How about NMPOTDC [Not my president of this divided country]?

Well, I tried. Head hurts now. Must lie down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>95. Войска ПВО:</p>
<p>Delia writes: “Watch that. My version of the acronym..”</p>
<p>Sorry, Delia. I seemed to have tread rather heavily onto your turf and hereby cede you rights of authorship with grudging counsel that POTUS has always been the accepted acronym for the president of the United States.<br />
~</p>
<p>Aww. You took all the gas outta my funnin&#8217;. *sniff*</p>
<p>How about NMPOTDC [Not my president of this divided country]?</p>
<p>Well, I tried. Head hurts now. Must lie down.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>112. Jamie:

&quot;But why should anyone who actually can create or increase businesses, profits, or jobs do so if their motivation, . . . is continually and increasingly sapped by soak-the-rich taxation? &quot;

Rich people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and others have donated billions of dollars to charities, partly because of good will and partly to reduce taxes.  There are 400 billionaires in the USA and all of them don&#039;t need but a fraction of their net worth to get along in a very comfortable way.  So the next best step is to &quot;share the wealth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>112. Jamie:</p>
<p>&#8220;But why should anyone who actually can create or increase businesses, profits, or jobs do so if their motivation, . . . is continually and increasingly sapped by soak-the-rich taxation? &#8221;</p>
<p>Rich people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and others have donated billions of dollars to charities, partly because of good will and partly to reduce taxes.  There are 400 billionaires in the USA and all of them don&#8217;t need but a fraction of their net worth to get along in a very comfortable way.  So the next best step is to &#8220;share the wealth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>115. ken in sc:

&quot;I have over $12,000 of my life savings invested in Bank of America stock. . . . That stock is worth less than $2000 now. &quot;

I don&#039;t think the gov&#039;t actions (Bush &amp; Obama) had a direct impact on the stock price loss.  It&#039;s Wall Street.  All those guys want is COMMISSIONS, commissions, commissions.  So they fuel RUMORS every day and the panicky and ignorant investors buy and sell like drunk mice.  One of the pieces of advise running these days is &quot;If you need the money in less than five years, don&#039;t invest in stocks&quot;.  This goes well for retirees.  Stay put.  B of A stock will eventually rise (months? years?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>115. ken in sc:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have over $12,000 of my life savings invested in Bank of America stock. . . . That stock is worth less than $2000 now. &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the gov&#8217;t actions (Bush &amp; Obama) had a direct impact on the stock price loss.  It&#8217;s Wall Street.  All those guys want is COMMISSIONS, commissions, commissions.  So they fuel RUMORS every day and the panicky and ignorant investors buy and sell like drunk mice.  One of the pieces of advise running these days is &#8220;If you need the money in less than five years, don&#8217;t invest in stocks&#8221;.  This goes well for retirees.  Stay put.  B of A stock will eventually rise (months? years?).</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?”

Except, as others have said, it won&#039;t go to people who work; it&#039;ll go to government bureaucrats and the like, who haven&#039;t worked an honest day in their lives.

We can&#039;t afford the government we have now, much less the kind that the Porkulus would provide.  It&#039;s time not only to beat back on this full-on assault on the productive class, but to actually *grow* the productive class.   And yes, this would be done at the expense of the unproductive class (government workers, Congress, etc.).  The time is now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?”</p>
<p>Except, as others have said, it won&#8217;t go to people who work; it&#8217;ll go to government bureaucrats and the like, who haven&#8217;t worked an honest day in their lives.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford the government we have now, much less the kind that the Porkulus would provide.  It&#8217;s time not only to beat back on this full-on assault on the productive class, but to actually *grow* the productive class.   And yes, this would be done at the expense of the unproductive class (government workers, Congress, etc.).  The time is now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Revoltocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revoltocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This administration will go down fast, and I pray the results won&#039;t be our undoing. Obama shares NOTHING in common with the people who put him in there. I&#039;ll admit - these are very ignorant people, but one day, hopefully soon, they&#039;ll wake up to see him as the hopelessly lying, unchangeably crooked, unqualified pathetic forked-tongued Chicago politician that he truly is. I can&#039;t believe millions of Americans are arguing over the merits of a bill noone has even read yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This administration will go down fast, and I pray the results won&#8217;t be our undoing. Obama shares NOTHING in common with the people who put him in there. I&#8217;ll admit &#8211; these are very ignorant people, but one day, hopefully soon, they&#8217;ll wake up to see him as the hopelessly lying, unchangeably crooked, unqualified pathetic forked-tongued Chicago politician that he truly is. I can&#8217;t believe millions of Americans are arguing over the merits of a bill noone has even read yet!</p>
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