The current President of the United States acknowledges some “skepticism” about his plans for a politically correct spending orgy, but that simply provides him with an opportunity to indulge in one of his favorite tropes, blaming the administration of George W. Bush for setting a poor example.
Perhaps the most cynical moment in the entire performance came when the current President of the United promised to spend these “precious dollars”–all 800,000,000,000 of them–with “unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency.” It will be amusing, in a gruesome sort of way, to click onto “recovery.gov,” a website that, according to the current President of the United States, “will allow any American to watch where the money goes and weigh in with comments and questions.” It will be very interesting to see what that website reveals, and what it conceals. Meanwhile, the 1073-page document that was just rushed through Congress wasn’t even read by those who voted for it–or by anyone else, really. Unprecedented transparency? Unprecedented chutzpah is more like it. As The Wall Street Journal noted yesterday, “Only this Tuesday the House unanimously approved a resolution promising 48-hour public notice before holding a roll call. Even better, the bill could have been posted on the Internet, as candidate Barack Obama suggested during the campaign. Let voters see what they’re getting for all this money.” Was it? “Not a chance.”
The current President of the United States is correct that “Ultimately, this is your money, and you deserve to know where it’s going and how it’s spent,” but I’d wager you won’t find this administration treating it as your money or telling you where it went.
The new President’s war.
How long before Surge Stimulus is going to be announced?
The deadbeats, lobby hustlers, unions, community organizers (ACORN), welfare artists, entitlement pros, TARP recipients, crooked politicians, liberal schools (I am sure I left some out) AND the BAMSTER, PELUTTED, UP YOUR REID are cheering like crazy.. the poor taxpayer that has to pay for all this crapola is thinking about going on permanent strike.. I hope people wake up soon and decide it is time to quit funding this bloated thing we call a government.. things are getting so bad now that a bankrupt USA wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference to many of us who believe it is time for a taxpayer/legislative/constitutional/judicial/executive REVOLT and REVOLUTION..
Well, that sums it up I think!
This is how Obama ran his entire campaign and he never answered one single question about the details of what he would do. Well now he is not even being questioned, big surprise, and is rattling off the same old mantras and promises.
Don’t you understand? We have to spend money by the Trillions because we are in a CRISIS that will become a CATASTROPHE if we don’t do something RIGHT NOW. It doesn’t matter what the money will be spent for; the main idea is to spend it as fast as we can and HOPE that it will CHANGE the economy. As Senator Shumer noted, the public really doesn’t care about how much pork is in this bill anyway. Just because this approach never worked before doesn’t mean it won’t work now with THE ONE at the helm. The members of Congress are much better off having not read this bill; they should be able to sleep better that way and they can later claim “I didn’t know THAT was in there!” The key is for our leaders to preach RESPONSIBILITY but not to let that principle get in the way of doing whatever they think is expedient.
“Real and tangible progress for the American people”
What a joke. The foolish and reckless election of Obama has launched us into a retrogressive era. Our current Obama/Pelosi/Reid government is more like spoiled brat children squandering their inheritance. They will now answer these charges with empty words about responsibility and the the perpetual adolescents of the MTV generation will lap up every platitude. It’s all quite predictable. They are about to learn why Jimmy Carter is so despised. It’s really sad that they have chosen to do it the hard way. Learning from history would have been much, much less painful.
If I hear that idiotic phrase, “save or create X million jobs” once more, I think I’ll puke. It means nothing, and anyone who uses it should be forced to actually explain himself. At least get their concrete projections on record. They must have projections, in order to know what a “saved job” even is – though having a projection only implies that one is willing to take a guess and stick to it, nothing more. But at least nail them down on what they think the future would have looked like without that turd they call ‘legislation’. If you don’t nail them down, they just jump around from day-to-day, detached from any, and all, history.
“Did he snigger, just a little”
Nope, not in the least—and that’s what makes Barack Obama so dangerous. He believes his own bovine excrement. On top of that, Obama is a very shallow and poorly read individual. The irony is that many of the Messiah’s admirers praise his alleged intellectual curiosity. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is very fair to describe him as closed minded and unwilling to reevaluate his positions.
All of us have far more information than we can absorb or respond to.
How is all of this exasperating understanding going to be turned into the useful revolt by 3.BobCampbell?
I completely agree, but I am also very aware that–since April 2008, I’ve known and understand things about barackobama that make me sick, I’ve been talking about to anyone who would listen, e-mailing elected representatives and learning, learning, learning…..where’s the tipping point to effective action? What do we do?
Is there a website called “Meet at the old mill. We ride at dawn.” We need to get there.
I saw in the news yesterday that the administration is unhappy with the problems they encountered ramming this down our throats. The gist of it was they want Obama to go out and campaign for everything from here on out, since that’s all he’s good at, and I guess his droogs will handle all of the messy details, arm-twisting and knee-capping back at the office. Eventually, people will get tired of his empty promises at these rallies, and they’ll have to bus people in to cobble up a crowd for the background.
You can waste all the time you want blaming Dems for being Dems but this horrible bill with all its unknown dire consequences was brought to life by three Repub Senators. Theirs was premeditated. They voted twice.
This is a self inflicted wound. Where is the Repub leadership’s outrage? There is none. The party deserves its wilderness. Never, ever forget that it was three Repubs who gave Reid, Pelosi and Obama their greatest accomplishment. The most important spending bill in over 70 years was facilitated by Repubs.
If the leadership doesn’t care why should I?
patrick neid
If the leadership doesn’t care why should I?
Because you are going to be paying for it – dearly – in terms of both dollars and lost liberties.
That’s why you should care.
Talk about extremes – Bush – substance with little form; Obama – all form and virtually no substance. I have never heard such tripe delivered so eloquently.
And I thought Carter was a disaster…………
It is hard to care.
However I am ready for the REVOLT!
Perhaps we’ve misunderstood the congressional/executive pronouncements. At this precise moment, the full faith and credit of the government of the United States of America is capable of borrowing tremendous amounts of money in the world’s credit markets at reduced interest rates due to its adherence to the contracts of said agreements. Maybe BHO, Pelosi and Reid, et al. understand that this situation is about to reverse and the reason to hurry is that it’s their last chance to borrow this level of money to spend on political whims and wish lists. Possibly they also suspect that the American public will awaken from their stupor before much more time passes and require real budgeting from elected officials.
Saul Alinsky has to be clapping hands, where ever he is now. This is right out of his play book. Neid has a point. But Spector, Snow, and Collins have a long history of RINOhood, so most Republicans don’t claim them as party members. O can probably count on them to vote for anything he wants, leaving the Dems with an effective 62 vote majority no matter what happens in Minnesota. Regardless, the National Socialist Democratic Party is now fully functional. Expect them to stop at absolutely nothing in their continuing efforts to hang on to this status forever. Yeah, we will probably see “green shirts” as suggested by Bullwinkle, and little troops of kids singing O hymns in the very near future.
I admit to a loss of faith in the God whom I thought would pretect us. It is a weakness in my soul that makes every day an agony watching this band of liars and thieves congratulate themselves . They have nothing but utter contempt for the creation of our fathers. Seeing them destroy it and laugh in our faces is a humilitation that is almost unbearable.
But deep ,deep way down in my spirit I know a time must come when they will be called to answer for their crimes.When that comes ,be it in heaven ,hell or on earth if I am there my voice will never be heard asking for their mercy.
Death and destruction to them.
No mercy.
“And I thought Carter was a disaster…………”
History has tragically confirmed your ‘thought’. The facts are in.
This stimulus will be like injecting heroin into the veins of the Left. One cannot expect them to want less going forward. It appears only two options exist. Massive tax revolts, or move offshore with your money if possible.
Remember, WR Jonas, innocent people were destroyed at Sodom and Gomorrah.
“The current president of the United States” or TCPoUS. he-he-he
Yep, Mr. Kimball. I think all of us with wide-open eyes are dropping our jaws in utter SHOCK right now.
I’m beyond flabbergasted at TCPoUS’ sheer audacity. I mean, I KNEW the guy was a creep but wow…he’s already surpassed my REAL fears. Thank you for the article that confirms them.
UGHHHHHHHHHH
It’s been said that the Democrats are ‘the mommy party’ and Republicans are ‘the daddy party’.
At this point I’d suggest that the Democrats are ‘the irresponsible, selfish teenager party’.
I find this stimulus vs. spending argument ridiculous, not to mention profoundly disingenuous. All spending stimulates the economy, all stimulation of the economy requires spending. The two are one and the same thing. And even most conservative commentators are smart enough to know that. The real argument here is about who gets the money. The Bushite morons want to continue to give all the money to the richest 1% of Americans, the oil bandits and crooked financiers, who benefited from Bush’s tax cuts and Cheney’s underhanded dealings.
Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?
18WRJonas….God never promised to protect a nation whose leadership and public square activities spit in His face and violate even His most general commands re goodness and wisdom.
Unfortunately, those who are protesting at the spitting and moral stupidity will be caught in the consequences of ungodly and foolish leadership.
Bottom line: Don’t blame God for what wicked, foolish, dishonest leaders are doing. Unfortunately, in the short view, He’s not obligated to pretend the crap isn’t real (any more than we are).
He is still the source of refuge and strength. If you care to, I recommend a reading of Psalm 46 (for strength) and Psalm 2 (which gives you the “end of the story”! where the nincompoops of the world are concerned). I only respond this directly because I sense in your post a genuine distress and angst reflecting a cry of “Where is God???” If these comments aren’t don’t fit–let ‘em go.
God help us all.
wake up call received load and clear. no more apathy from me. no more “i dont care”. i will vote, and will support every republican because i think they have learned their lesson.
Well we might get lucky and the Friday the 13th Economic Plan might work. Otherwise its back to 5 year plans I suppose.
Is it possible the anti-American Obama is purposely attempting to bankrupt America in obedience to unseen masters? The initial actions of his administration indicate a total lack of organizational skills and leadership. Is this intentional….or is this man actually this incompetent? I am not yet convinced he is a natural born U.S. citizen…or that his roots are not deeply intertwined with Islam. He has been chosen and groomed for this time….but by whom?
My complaint about the lack of transparency is that the suggested actions are gimmicks. True transparency means taking the time to go through the bill in a simple manner and give people an overview of what’s in there. Transparency is giving people a chance to digest the information and offer feedback. The method used in this continued a pattern of scaring people into support on one hand versus cherry-picking obvious stupid sections on the other hand.
People do not function well when goaded constantly. We need a populace willing to follow the stories, but I can’t truly blame anyone for bailing on this one. Who needs the grief? It’s scary enough right now.
We do not need more campaign rhetoric. We heard him for 2 years, and he’s not saying anything new now. We do need more real communication.
That’s transparency. Some internet gimmick means absolutely nothing.
Some Congressional family members are going to really get wealthy! I wish there was a site that “mapped” family and business relationships so we could see how this worked. Take Detroit. Kwame was mayor and his mother was a Congresswoman and chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. There have to have been other relatives working for the school board, the water board and so on. How much federal money flowed into each others’ pockets. Like Obama’s earmark for his wife’s employer that got her a raise of, what?, $100,000 a year.
Think of the cash going to employers who are just going to turn the cash over to the unions either as pension fund contributions, contract improvements or phantom jobs.
We have to demand transparency AND develop mechanisms like newspapers and TV news that will report on the crimes of the democrats.
Bill to nowhere….
WE should consdier this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/15/snl-republican-meeting-mo_n_167036.html
Itg’s time for “A Day Without a Taxpaying, Conservative”. They think that we are a small minority and until we realize that we are on the outside looking in now, we won’t get it.
..”meet at the old mill, we ride at dawn”……Meryl, I’m going out to pump up the air in my 3-speed’s tires right now! WHICH MILL?????
Rather than a gov’t website telling me “Where the (my) Money is Going” I’d like to see a couple of smart non-partisan investigative reporters writing about where the money is going. I live in California, and agencies of the state gov’t lie routinely. They lie about everything from school droupout rates to disposition of registered sex offenders, to how bad the states fiscal problems are. The reasn they get away with lying is that there aren’t any smart non-partisan investigative reporters writing about anything in the state.
My favorite aspect is that Obama is not signing this bill until Tuesday. Instead of signing this ‘emergency’ bill into law Friday evening -after sending a plane, at taxpayer’s expense, to fetch a Democrat Senator from his mother’s wake in Ohio so that Senator could cast the passing vote, President Obama left town. He took his wife to Chicago for the weekend. What? That little getaway (in week 3) cost the taxpayers how much in sending up two Air Force One’s (a Decoy and the real thing) plus all the post-9/11 security needed for the Obama’s to go out to a romantic dinner for 2 in downtown Chicago? Thanks to the Democrats may not live in a post 9/11 world but the Obama’s certainly do. And correct me if I’m wrong but I thought candidate Obama was extremely concerned about everyone else’s carbon footprint?
Anyway, given how Obama was not going to interrupt his plans to sign this bill, the vote did not have to be rushed through. Not only could Obama have given everyone the weekend to read the bill, the Senator from Ohio could have remained at his mother’s wake and gotten a good night sleep before her funeral the next morning. Harry Reid did see that the private plane did return him in time. How very thoughtful.
Finally, some real resentment about this obscenity that has been foisted upon us! I refer to — as Roger termed it above — TCPOTUS and those festering pieces of garbage: his hand-maiden Pelosi and the insufferable Reid..
..not to mention the three Republican senators who broke ranks and allowed this to happen.
“On the issue of energy, the current President of the United States promises to litter the landscape with wind turbines and solar panels but says nothing about exploiting America’s vast reserves of coal, extracting more oil from American fields, or building nuclear power plants.”
Our ranks will be swollen when the bill comes due and gas prices resume their normal place in the firmament. All of this “spendulus” was accomplished by Pelosi because no real pain is being felt by the general publc who still have jobs.
Just wait until we’re paying $4.50 per gallon again. Obama takes the heat for that one and there will be mob at the mill, Sharon, and they will be carrying the torches and pitchforks.
By the way, can you send me the MapQuest link for that meeting site? I want to head down there to get a good seat.
You all are missing the really important aspect to this bill…the ONLY thing that matters….WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT:
Nancy Pelosi got it passed in time to take her trip to Rome.
Gotta put things in perspective, people.
I long for the days when thing smade sense. I mean just 3 or 4 years ago when us conservatives had more control, everything was so much better. We had all the government on our side and the judges too and we made decisiosn that were right. (hot and right . . . he he).
But now with the Porky Pei Fatulus Bill were wasting money we don’t even have. i remember we used to be able to afford importatn things . . . like $200,000 for recreation improvements at the North Pole. Yeah, that was in our budget, thanks to Mr Stevens. I can’t call him Senator anymore because the Turdocrats stole him from the Senate.
But I know we’ll get the power again soon, espcially if Obambam keeps wasting all OUR money.
18. WR Jonas . . . i agree completely.
Now, tell us what you think of the Democrats?
I agree with the general sentiment,although I would take it further. As a radical boomer of the 60′s in my 60′s it is time to just take over. Refuse to pay any more taxes at all till the Federal government accounts for what they already put us in debt for.
How do you think they would like them apples?
The man has read some PJMs comments.
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Only 202 more weeks of this Shiite to go.
48 hours rushed through, hyped, as though yelling ‘fire’ in a packed room… without adequate time for anyone to read & discover the true extent of the Obamanation? This is an example of “Transparency of Government” though not intentionally… Truly, one can see right through it…..
Hurry up and wait! He is not signing the bill until TUESDAY! And we didn’t have it for 24 hours so we could read it…remember, don’t ever forget how your rep and sen voted.
“Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?”
It appears that a good part of this money goes to people who DO NOT work for it. Obama’s intentions are one thing; the contents of this stimulus package are another.
OH MY GOD. This is just sick. Mrs Jackson, you just put it all into REAL perspective. This was rammed down our throats, “do this now or america will collapse” and he doesn’t even bother to sign on Friday but will on Tuesday. (I would rather he not sign this giant pile of C.R.A.P. at all) But the nerve. This man has some real gall to be like this. He does not care a bit about America or the people. He only cares that he won and he knows NOTHING about what it takes to be a President.
This is really like Marie Antionette. I wouldn’t be surprised if he utters the words… “let them eat cake.” (and we know that the French had a revolution and what happened to her)
I really cannot stand this creepy thing standing in the most sacred place (the white house). I didn’t vote for him, but I really had no idea that he would be THIS horrible. I am ready to have a recall or can we impeach him… can we do that?
He promised that the bill would be online for all to read. It wasn’t even before congress until VERY late for those idiots to read; and none did.k So don’t hold your breath for the spending to be online for all to read. Ain’t happinin. Maybe there’s a glimmer of hope here. If it’s true that very little of this 800B will be distributed/spent in the next two years, could we throw the current crop of bums out in the next congressional elections, and repeal this law at that point, and, therefore, save most of the 800B? I really feel that besides the obvious socialist power/government grab that this represents, the Dems were in a panic to “do something” right now so that they could take credit for a recovery that would have inevitably taken place by an economy left to do so on its own. Does anybody here know the answer?
14 sclemens.
“Bush – substance with little form; Obama – all form and virtually no substance.”
Nail on the head.
Mr. Knight. The people that work are paying for it. The majority of the people that are getting the money have never done any real work in there lives. That is how the democrats operate. That is how Communist operate.
Stop being a tool. Your country has been sold out.
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People are too optimistic about getting power back, it will take an extreme reaction in 2010 to beat back the MSM and the incredible election fraud that is coming to America. It will take 65% the votes to beat it. Even if we do get it back, we are going to be severely structurally damaged by this administration. They will roll back all gains and acheivements of the last 50 years. what really should be of concern is the complete disregard for contract law that they are showing in “fixing this financial “crisis”. One of the reason USA has been a haven for money because it has been considered a country with form property rights. Once that is no longer the case we can expect to have deep trouble. We will end up like Latin America.
Republicans should begin campaigning on this issue now. Steele should be holding press conferences every week and telling republican currently in congress and those who want to run, fiscal responsibility is our theme for the next four years. The first presser should directly address the dems criticism :
Republican spokespersoin “We are being called obstructionists. Well, that is absolutely true. We are doing everything we can to obstruct passage of a bill we believe will tank our economy. We will put up obstructions for the next 4 years. to any bill with wasteful spending, earmarks and pork. We are in the minority, the democrats control the legislature and executive branch so there is only so much we can do. But what we will do is make sure the American people know how their tax dollars are being spent and how those dollars are being wasted.”
Democrats response … “but but but BUSH !!!”
10. Meryl:
“Is there a website called “Meet at the old mill. We ride at dawn.” We need to get there.”
The construction crew is working overtime.
34SharonTiehen! Don’t know yet!….but you know what? I think these unAmerican yahoos will be totally unprepared for what is going to happen when some kind of FOCUS occurs at the grassroots, effective-planning level….SOMETHING is going to happen that the word “serendipity” will be applied to, and when it does–I think we will all know exactly “which mill”.
Our son has a promotions business. Maybe I’ll have him make up a sweatshirt (or leather jacket) for me that has those lines on the back in a circle–you know–top and bottom half/two lines….
Everyone talks about revolution, but how do you revolt? Refuse to pay your taxes? You’ll be picked off one by one and imprisoned. I’m asking, seriously, how does one revolt against socialist theft?
These comments are from folks who have witnessed the George W. Bush recession created in the last eight years. This economic tsunami is second only to the Depression of 1930 by the other Republican President H. Hoover. And, they are so quick to find fault…what a laugh. They care not for the American family or the American worker. Once again, the GOP party shines as a beacon for the rich wanting even more tax cuts.
Edward A.,
Understand American history before you start spouting off a couple of non-relevant factors to the Great Depression and this depression. The decisions made to create this crisis are many to count and occur over the course of several decades. The creation of the Federal Reserve Board in 1913 was one of the major factors for both.
You and the others that spout the political party one-liners really need to do your own research instead of parroting what some lame union-boss’, or your “representatives” tell you! This problem is exasperated by BOTH parties’ greed and uneducated decisions.
55 Edward A.
Quite the opposite – There is very strong empirical evidence that tax cuts (to those that actually pay taxes) are very beneficial to the American family and the American worker. There is no empirical evidence that government spending or handouts have ever worked to boost any economy anywhere.
Bush did not “create” a recession. The “recession” was a self-inflicted wound brought on by overindulgence on credit on the part of the consumer and home buyer and fueled by a banking culture created by a policies based on social engineering and not sound fiscal grounds that forced lenders to approve loans to uncreditworthy borrowers. End of story.
Doubling down by going into more debt to pay off current debt is a VERY BAD IDEA no matter what political party you claim as your own.
This is all like a College kid with a new credit card, they go spend spend spend on that card aquiring all sorts of goodies but when time comes to pay for all that spending?
What a horrific legacy we are leaving to our children and grandchildren. We are burdening them with massive taxes unimaginable.
Oh, sorry, I forgot. The liberal lefties who brought us this don’t have children and so there will be no grandchildren. In short there will be no one to pay except the libs.
And as we all know, liberals don’t pay taxes. Just ask Geithner, Daschle, Killifer, Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood, Charlie Rangel and God knows who else.
Taxes are just for “the little people.”
I suggest this site lighten up on moderation.
It restricts communication.
Can we have proof that Bush created this recession>
No, Glenn. The two are not one and the same. Not even close. There are many ways to stimulate the economy without spending – cutting taxes being the most obvious. The relaxation of regulations is another. There are many different methods of providing economic stimulation. On top of that, not all spending is equal in terms of its stimulative effect, contrary to the moronic Keynesian idea of just burying jars of money for people to dig up.
But, it’s good to see someone who thinks that the idiot messiah knows anything about anything.
P.S. He doesn’t. The idiot messiah is, indeed, an idiot.
Edward A: gee, I missed the great Bush recession of 2004 somehow – and so did the candidates, even Kerry didn’t mention it.
Actually, if you look at a chart of the DJIA for the last four years, you’ll see it was on a steady rise until November 2006. Since then it has been declining.
Now, what happened in Nov. ’06 that could have possibly caused a decline? Don’t think too hard, Edward, you’re not used to it and your brain might explode.
ALL THE WHILE, BANKS ARE FAILING
Friday the 13th was not only significant because of passage of the Stimulus legislation.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/02/fridays-are-worst-day-for-banks.html
37. Войска ПВО:
“Finally, some real resentment about this obscenity that has been foisted upon us! I refer to — as Roger termed it above — TCPOTUS”
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Hey, buddy. Watch that. My version of the acronym [which came before yours] dropped the ‘t’ for “the” which makes it shorter and sweeter. *pinch* You know? Like, “United states OF America” is the ‘USA’ not the ‘USOA’? ;p Agreed with your rant though.
The trillmulus spend-a-gasm is going to be something our future humans will have to swallow which is patently and gut-wrenchingly despicable.
Where’s my own private Idaho? My conservative-minded bastion? H-E-L-P!
ricpic: Grab your gun, a sleeping bag, and a sack of canned food and hide in the woods, just like our revolutionary forefathers.
Not to mention, I’m sure there are also quite a few soldiers that actually take their oath seriously, and they will be our salvation.
See you at the old mill. I’ll bring hotdogs.
53)Meryl,
My e-mail is vict@kalama.com
Send me a line when the sweatshirt is ready. I’ll take two!!
Go girl………
The stimulus bill will be yesterday’s news in a month. I expect Obama’s regime to generate a new distraction, so we are not allowed time to see what is done with the money. Either it’s some small war (bomb Iran), attack on freedom of speech (Fairness Doctrine) or the end to secret ballots in union voting. Most likely it will be #2 or #3.
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/02/whats-next-or-i-am-trying-to-jinx.html
google Austrian Business Cycle Theory little known but on the money.
The link to where the money is being spent might as well be your toilet with more in it than just water.
Obama cannot and will not make decisions he is a puppet of Soros Pelosi Reed and who knows who else.
There were no innocent lives lost in Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot bargained with God to spare the city for the sake 10 innocent men. None were found and Lot and his family fled as God told him to do.
And Meryl,it is not Gods failure that distresses me it is my failure to understand God. He has his time and when judgment is rendered the things that are said and done today will be of little consequence to me.
You cannot measure a “saved” job. There is simply no way of knowing whether or not a person would have been laid off if action X had not been taken. Unfortunately our MSM are simply too stupid to question The One about this ridiculous claim.
So; When’s ‘dis dude and his skank getting the gold grillwork?
Obama’s ridiculous claim that the economy can be stimulated from the bottom up has been refuted many times. Remember the luxury tax the Democrats passed in the 90′s? The Democrats, in their ideological pursuit of the evil rich, imposed a tax on so-called luxury goods to punish(?) the rich for their good fortune, hard work, or whatever it was that made them rich. But who was it that really suffered? The rich? No, of course not. The industry that became the example for the Democrat’s folly was the yacht building industry. After the tax was imposed many wealthy patrons canceled existing orders and others didn’t place them at all. Yacht building in Europe picked up as orders that would have gone to US builders went to foreign builders instead. So who was hurt in the Democrat’s envy motivated attack on the rich? It was the blue collar workers who built, painted, outfitted, finished, sold, upgraded and maintained yachts for the rich.
How many Liberal voters owe their jobs to someone with more talent, more drive, and more initiative then they have yet want to restrict the ability of the rich via taxes to create additional businesses to employ the mere mediocre?
Liberalism is for the weak minded, the below average, the covetous, the lazy, and the corrupt.
Giving money to the poor through a one time stimulus check will not in the end produce anything because it is a “one time” event. It is not a long term stimulus like a tax cut would be.
Obamareidpelosi’s plan WILL fail. It’s just a question of time.
I’m looking at the Barack spending orgy from a psychological point of view.
The media’s boy wonder is either trying to make up for a magnifying-glass-necessary penis size, or the fact that he screwed the marrying pooch by exchanging vows with a woman of extraordinary inner and outer ugliness; the kind that makes Eleanor Roosevelt look like a Playboy centerfold.
All this rush, then he takes off to Chicago for 3 days before signing it, err, for dinner with the wife. The 48 hours promised for review was easily available. But wait, the Speaker had to go see the Pope.
75. Rachel Peepers,
OUCH! You really know how to hit below the belt. ROTFL!
Rache, the commando-in-chief has squirrel nads BUT on the bright side…he has man-boobs that I even envy! Whoot!
meh.
thegr8_1 – thank you for the google suggestion…I just spent the last 1 1/2 hours reading up on the Austrian Theory of Business cylces….very informative and interesting. I learned the most by reading Ben Best’s work.
Distributing information like this is what is needed to turn this country around. If only the “other half” of the population would take the time to read and understand. A mind is such a terrible thing to waste.
BTW, I’m a firm believer in voter ID. All interested in a fair election with every legitimate vote counted (only once, preferably) should start a letter writing campaign to their legislatures (state and federal) to enact legislation requiring voter identification and methods of cross-checking voter registration records for fraud. I’m more than happy to dip my finger in an inkwell…do you think the dems will go for that?
Re: the two below, Where’s the outrage? Where’s the wailing about “level of discourse?” An A$5hole is an a&8hole, am I right? Of course, not.
75. Rachel Peepers:
I’m looking at the Barack spending orgy from a psychological point of view.
The media’s boy wonder is either trying to make up for a magnifying-glass-necessary penis size, or the fact that he screwed the marrying pooch by exchanging vows with a woman of extraordinary inner and outer ugliness; the kind that makes Eleanor Roosevelt look like a Playboy centerfold.
77. Delia:
75. Rachel Peepers,
OUCH! You really know how to hit below the belt. ROTFL! Rache, the commando-in-chief has squirrel nads BUT on the bright side…he has man-boobs that I even envy! Whoot!
He won.
I understand that there is not one dime of spending for Defense in this bill.
Such as refurbishing equipment, building and replacing systems and equipment. And improving stateside bases.
All could start right now, not 2-3 years from now.
As long as we permit the enablers (the MSM and the Ivory Tower elites on university campuses) to continue this delusion, poseurs like Obama will fill the vacuum they create.
Conservatives need to take out the enablers if they’re to ever regain power. Of course, it’ll take at least 10-20 years to do so, and most corporate conservatives have been well trained to respect the quarterly report at the expense of all else.
Avoidance of tyranny is really quite doubtful at this point.
Re: “Real and tangible progress for the American people.”
Did he snigger, just a little…
WOH! Mr. Kimball, wash your mouth.
Remember what happened to that education official in Washington D.C. a few years ago when he used the word niggardly? You cannot just willy nilly use good words like that in this day of political correctness!
Kieran McAuliffe
Toronto
This is going to get much, much worse as he sees what he can get away with under cover of the press. Much worse.
Transparency? Like everything else about this new administration, a joke. Check this out: http://smokebreak.blogshevik.com/?p=94
They care not for the American family or the American worker.
Are you joking? You don’t care whether American workers and their families are poor or poorer, or free or unfree. So long as they’re they all have the same social outcomes, what difference does it make what those outcomes actually are, right?
Secession?
Maybe when Red gets tired of paying Blue.
MONEYNETDAILY
Federal obligations exceed world GDP
Does $65.5 trillion terrify anyone yet?
Posted: February 13, 2009
11:35 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
As the Obama administration pushes through Congress its $800 billion deficit-spending economic stimulus plan, the American public is largely unaware that the true deficit of the federal government already is measured in trillions of dollars, and in fact its $65.5 trillion in total obligations exceeds the gross domestic product of the world.
The total U.S. obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits to be paid in the future, effectively have placed the U.S. government in bankruptcy, even before new continuing social welfare obligation embedded in the massive spending plan are taken into account.
Calculations from the “2008 Financial Report of the United States Government” also show that the GAAP negative net worth of the federal government has increased to $59.3 trillion while the total federal obligations under GAAP accounting now total $65.5 trillion.
The $65.5 trillion total federal obligations under GAAP accounting not only now exceed four times the U.S. gross domestic product, or GDP, the $65.5 trillion deficit exceeds total world GDP.
“snigger”? What are you, some kind of closet bigot?
“boondoggle”? I don’t know what that is, but it sounds racist.
Seriously, I’ve felt for some time, that the election of Barack Obama would set back the cause of African Americans for a long, long time. It was a feel-good vote, and the Republicans seemed to concede the election with their nomination of the most disliked Republican in the party.
Right now, Mr. Obama looks and sounds more like the barker at a carnival than the real deal. I can’t tell who’s leading whom, but letting Reid/Pelosi draft your stimulus bill doesn’t make you a great leader in my book.
3. Bob Campbell:
” it is time for a taxpayer/legislative/constitutional/judicial/executive REVOLT and REVOLUTION.. ”
And do what? Go back to the Republican farce?
8. progressoverpeace:
“If you don’t nail them down, they just jump around from day-to-day, detached from any, and all, history.”
Isn’t that what the lazy Republican congressmen and senators are supposed to do?
15. elvis:
Elvis is dead, revolt against hip hop?
Delia writes: “Watch that. My version of the acronym..”
Sorry, Delia. I seemed to have tread rather heavily onto your turf and hereby cede you rights of authorship with grudging counsel that POTUS has always been the accepted acronym for the president of the United States.
I loved it when LtCol O. North used to refer to that global-warming tub of goo as “VPOTUS Gore”. It seemed an appropriately obscene appellation for that piece of bovine excrement.
May I also suggest for our Current Dear Leader the following: PTP (President Training Pants), CTK (Chimpy, the Kenyan), PVW (President Vaporware), and HCIC (Head Crook in Charge) as alternative acronyms — all culled from the wonderful posts here at PJM.
18. WR Jonas:
“I admit to a loss of faith in the God whom I thought would pretect us.”
You god was always a figment of your imagination. Life is reality.
18. WR Jonas:
“It is a weakness in my soul that makes every day an agony watching this band of liars and thieves congratulate themselves . They have nothing but utter contempt for the creation of our fathers. Seeing them destroy it and laugh in our faces is a humilitation that is almost unbearable.
But deep ,deep way down in my spirit I know a time must come when they will be called to answer for their crimes.When that comes ,be it in heaven ,hell or on earth if I am there my voice will never be heard asking for their mercy.
Death and destruction to them.
No mercy.”
You’re talking about Bush and company, right?
35. glenn:
“I’d like to see a couple of smart non-partisan investigative reporters writing about where the money is going.”
Good idea, but isn’t this the job of concerned senators and congressmen?
36. Mrs. Jackson:
“He took his wife to Chicago for the weekend. What? That little getaway (in week 3) cost the taxpayers how much in sending up two Air Force One’s (a Decoy and the real thing) plus all the post-9/11 security needed for the Obama’s to go out to a romantic dinner for 2 in downtown Chicago?”
And what did you expect? KFC?
Rachel Peepers writes:
“..or the fact that he screwed the marrying pooch by exchanging vows with a woman of extraordinary inner and outer ugliness; the kind that makes Eleanor Roosevelt look like a Playboy centerfold..”
Rachel, remember the Sanford and Son series? I’m thinkin’ LaWanda Page (Aunt Esther)..especially when she got after Fred. Or how about Emestine Wade, Saphire on the old Amos’n'Andy TV show?
This only means this:
The government borrowed some more money, will send the bill to the taxpayer to pay back with interest. They take some of the interest, pay China back and profit in the end. People will never profit. This is the NEW economy. The same method people were using when using their home equity to borrow and invest it. The idea being you can use someone else’s money to make a few bucks. They government is doing this very thing and stupid people actually think they are going to give them something…ya know… some ‘help’. LOL. What you’ll get is a small loan, (maybe $13 per week) and you will have to pay back thousands. Is that a net gain?
We are being swindled people. But hey… we might be able to look outside and see beautiful building like the chinese serfs too! We’ll be eating bread and living in shacks, but our roads and buildings will be fancy.
This all is no different at any level. All of it’s wealth redistribution. The rich transfering money from the middleclass. The poor transfering wealth from the middleclass. Example is that my Discover card rasied my interest rate (who cares, I don’t carry a balance) in hopes to have me make up for their losses which came from all those poor people they provided credit to and couldn’t pay back. So, get it from those hardworking, bill payiing, tax paying, citizens and give it to the rich and make up for the poor. I’m now hiding every penny I get and it’ll not be visible to anyone ever again. I’m done being robbed. From now on you can all assume that i’ve spent every dime I make and then some on “stuff” just for fun. It’s all gone – You HERE ME OBAMA?
39. hot and right:
“But I know we’ll get the power again soon, espcially if Obambam keeps wasting all OUR money.”
And who spent all our money and future by wasting it in Iraq? Go back to your hot and right cave.
46. carol:
“I really cannot stand this creepy thing standing in the most sacred place (the white house). I didn’t vote for him, but I really had no idea that he would be THIS horrible. I am ready to have a recall or can we impeach him… can we do that?”
Millions said that about your dear Bush . . .
54. ricpic:
“I’m asking, seriously, how does one revolt against socialist theft?”
By creating or increasing businesses, profits and jobs.
70. thegre8_1:
“Obama cannot and will not make decisions he is a puppet of Soros Pelosi Reed and who knows who else.”
So what’s new? Bush was the puppet of all the you-know-whos.
75. Rachel Peepers:
What did your boyfriend do this time?
Like all degenerate gamblers, these Washington weasels are doubling down and betting on the ‘come’. I suppose there will have to be an intervention in 2010 and 2012.
Don’t forget to include the RINO enablers.
23.Glenn A Knight:
“Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?”
You’re kidding, right? The people who worked for that money are the ones who paid taxes on it. And damned little of this bill will be going to relieve the taxpayers by reducing their burden and letting them spend their money as they see fit.
Vivo. I do not know who you are and imagine yourself to be . Use your name if you have any courage . Your words are mindless leftist blather driven by some imaginary delusion of cleverness . Your affliction is the Bush Derangement Syndrome. Everything that comes from your mind is stained by your disease.
Get some help .
ok. $1.1 trillion ( with interest) then 3.5M jobs. Lets do a little math.. … hmm.. here we are 300K per job. Wow.. what a great idea.
If someone offered you $3M dollars over 2 years and said you needed to employ 10 people, could you make that work?
Turn loose america’s business if you want to create permanent jobs. This bill is bogus.
vivo, you answered the question, “I’m asking, seriously, how does one revolt against socialist theft?” with “By creating or increasing businesses, profits and jobs.” But why should anyone who actually can create or increase businesses, profits, or jobs do so if their motivation, to say nothing of their sheer ability to do so is continually and increasingly sapped by soak-the-rich taxation?
You’ve responded to a number of people with one-liners that echo the “progressive” cant. Have you thought about whether those bumper stickers are actually true? Whether they work? When revenues to the government demonstrably increase after tax cuts and decrease after tax increases, does that fact register with you? When there were calls for Bush’s impeachment (or, as now, for his being tried for “war crimes”), does Occam’s Razor dictate that the reason no such charges were brought (or ever will be brought) is that there’s a nation- or worldwide conspiracy to protect Bush, or because they’d be groundless?
I tell this story often. I was in Dallas in, what, 2006 or so, at a funky gift shop – you know the kind, full of “novelty” items like librarian action figures and snooty-pop-culture versions of classic games. At the cash register was a display of buttons. My fave was the one that said, “Oh well, I wasn’t using my civil liberties anyway.” I was absolutely charmed by the unselfconscious irony of whoever caused that button to be made, the buyer who thought it’d be cute for their store, the manager of the store who thought it’d be oh-so-relevant to display prominently in the age of Dear Leader Bush. All of them apparently willing to overlook the fact that if Bush really were what they continually said he was, that button would have meant a file an inch thick at State, informing by frightened neighbors and children, and men in dark glasses at the door saying, “Sir or madam, please come with us.”
vivo, think.
Interesting choice of words, Mr. Obama.
What words am I referring to?
Here’s two of my favorites examples, sir.
Both of which are highly ironic.
First, the “Stimulus Bill.”
Like FDR eventually realized, a nation can’t spend its way out of a recession. It’s like proscribing antibiotics to someone with salmonella.
Blbical proportion spending will drive the recession/depression deeper, making it infinitely more painful.
The interest that our decendants will be forced to pay on Barack’s irresponsible-to-the-nth- degree spending will prevent them from ever realizing the American Dream, either for themselves or their posterity.
Second example.
The Barack-championed, “Fairness Doctrine”, which, as many realize, represents an unprecedented assault on free speech.
The 53%ers have elected a man who is, with catastrophic impunity, tearing apart every rightous fiber of the American quilt that has helped keep half of the world free for two hundred years.
Make no mistake, Barack is lowering our defenses against a brand of fascism that makes Hitler’s pale by comparison.
If the annointed one can do this much damage to our way of life in four weeks, imagine the damage he’ll do in four years.
Talk about impeachment isn’t premature when Barack Obama is the one you’re talking about.
Clicking on an internet link to see where this pork ends up will bring one up close and personal with ACORN and a host of other Democratic constituent groups. Will never happen
I tried to post this at townhall. but it didn’t go, so i hope it goes here. I have over $12,000 of my life savings invested in Bank of America stock. Also, some of my IRA mutual funds contain that stock—maybe yours as well. That stock is worth less than $2000 now. I am not a fat-cat banker. I am a retired high school history teacher. I bought the stock over a period of 25 years, $50.00 at a time, through their dividend reinvestment plan. If the bank fails, I will lose that money of course. However, I am not in favor of these government bailouts. I think they caused the price drop. I believe that uncertainty about what the Obama administration is going to do to the banks is driving the stock price down. If the bank is nationalized, I will lose my money in that case as well. The best thing to happen would be for private investors to organize mergers and buy-ins that allowed the bank to keep going and recover. I think the government is hurting more than helping.
So, what country is better to move to? Any suggestions? I’m kinda done being robbed and I want my kids to do something other than pay taxes forever in serfdom. Whatever civil liberties this country has left are being quickly erased by both parties, so let us move. Just, where, though? Recall that Bush started the bailout mess. He was a bad Republican, but we aren’t likely to get our liberties back or taxes reduced anytime soon, so let those of us well educated hard working folks relocate together in force somewhere else. I want the dems out of my pocket and the republicans out of my bedroom and my belief system.
GLENN A. KNIGHT
#23
My, my…aren’t you the proud little Socialist ! Another poor misguided boob heard from !!!!
SALTHERRING
#27
Well said, brother. I’ve made the exact same
observations as you. Such an incredibly fast,
meteoric rise from nowhere makes me suspicious regarding just who is pulling Obama’s strings.
Groomed by whom, indeed ?
VIVO
#97
You’ve always been remarkably proud of your abject stupidity, but you’ve really outdone yourself this time. 1. Do you know how to read ? 2. Are you, in any manner, literate ?
3. Is your sophomoric mind capable of any form of reasoning ?
You seem to be suffering from an advanced case of cranial rectitis. Pull your head out of your a$$. If you can’t accomplish this, I can lend you a tractor to help with the job. You truly need a dose of reality. None are so so blind as those who will not see….
This administration will go down fast, and I pray the results won’t be our undoing. Obama shares NOTHING in common with the people who put him in there. I’ll admit – these are very ignorant people, but one day, hopefully soon, they’ll wake up to see him as the hopelessly lying, unchangeably crooked, unqualified pathetic forked-tongued Chicago politician that he truly is. I can’t believe millions of Americans are arguing over the merits of a bill noone has even read yet!
“Obama wants the money to go to some of the people who actually work for it. Is that so bad?”
Except, as others have said, it won’t go to people who work; it’ll go to government bureaucrats and the like, who haven’t worked an honest day in their lives.
We can’t afford the government we have now, much less the kind that the Porkulus would provide. It’s time not only to beat back on this full-on assault on the productive class, but to actually *grow* the productive class. And yes, this would be done at the expense of the unproductive class (government workers, Congress, etc.). The time is now….
115. ken in sc:
“I have over $12,000 of my life savings invested in Bank of America stock. . . . That stock is worth less than $2000 now. ”
I don’t think the gov’t actions (Bush & Obama) had a direct impact on the stock price loss. It’s Wall Street. All those guys want is COMMISSIONS, commissions, commissions. So they fuel RUMORS every day and the panicky and ignorant investors buy and sell like drunk mice. One of the pieces of advise running these days is “If you need the money in less than five years, don’t invest in stocks”. This goes well for retirees. Stay put. B of A stock will eventually rise (months? years?).
112. Jamie:
“But why should anyone who actually can create or increase businesses, profits, or jobs do so if their motivation, . . . is continually and increasingly sapped by soak-the-rich taxation? ”
Rich people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and others have donated billions of dollars to charities, partly because of good will and partly to reduce taxes. There are 400 billionaires in the USA and all of them don’t need but a fraction of their net worth to get along in a very comfortable way. So the next best step is to “share the wealth”.
95. Войска ПВО:
Delia writes: “Watch that. My version of the acronym..”
Sorry, Delia. I seemed to have tread rather heavily onto your turf and hereby cede you rights of authorship with grudging counsel that POTUS has always been the accepted acronym for the president of the United States.
~
Aww. You took all the gas outta my funnin’. *sniff*
How about NMPOTDC [Not my president of this divided country]?
Well, I tried. Head hurts now. Must lie down.
Vivo, you get a huge kick out of coming on pjm and thinking all these conservatives can’t sleep at night because of your clever one liners…you have even bragged about showing these to your
friends(?) and discussing your clever one-liners and laughing hysterically…whatever it sounds very sad to me.
Now you have two people who have answered your “jokes” with serious comments, nothing is fueled by anger, wow, you’ve disappeared. If your so sure that socialism is wonderful, why haven’t you moved somewhere where socialism works? France will take Americans who are willing to come and work, and then all you have to do is get laid off…oh, is it because the standard of living is not to your hauteur? It isnt, I know I live here. But i’ve complained enough about that.
Great article, I so agree, plus the big question that worries the French is where is the US going to get the money to pay off all of the debt, it’s in the farmer’s magazines for G’s sakes! But all is glorious…I was watching Foxnews and I saw two guys (one the CEO of Goggle-I know_ and the other some economist from NY) and they both said that we will most likely need another stimulus bill to finish helping the economy and that this is NOT enough!!! God help us
Oh and Jonas…Abraham pleaded for Lot’s life on a mountain, with God. ANd the pleading was if there was a 100 worth saving, would you save S&G? Even if there were only 1 he would save it for the sake of the one. By the way that is allegory for Christ saving the world even if it would only be for one person…but that isn’t the point, or is it? ( that one our messiah?)
Can anyone else get the full text of the Bacon Bill?
I keep trying to reach it, but the site keeps hanging.
So much for transparency.
I suppose Republicans only like spending massive amounts of money on things that blow up: Iraq, Afghanistan, Merrill Lynch…
Yes, you are indeed a “youngNaiveBiatch”.
Not all Republicans agreed with the war. Far from it.
The War is now obama’s war. He just issued orders to send THOUSANDS more troops to war. Of course he did it without the press. On the QT.
The responsibility for this financial debacle lies on the backs of the Dems in congress when they changed regulatory laws and encouraged, nay forced, banks to create subprime loans so that “everyone could have the dream of home ownership”.
Excuse me while I puke!
Dems, while receiving hundreds of thousands of $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie, put those companies under the wing of the Federal Government. It’s no surprise that obama was second pig in line for the most $$$$ from Fannie and Freddie.
Go take a basic economic course if you want to put your two cents in on these issues. At least spending on wars are stimulating.