Comments on: George W. Bush: the most underrated president ever

By: Michaelyi

Michaelyi — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:08:50 +0000

Carter “hectoring?” Finger-wagggling, sure. Scolding, of course. But in no way can James Earl Carter be stood alongside glorious Troy’s warrior prince.

By: T.S.Ahmed

T.S.Ahmed — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:51:34 +0000

To Jeff:

There is no victory associated with the Iraq war.Making such a judgment at this time of bloodshed and kind of civil war happening in Iraq, is too naive. For the way the the Bush adminstration is handling this war, I think the outcome is another Vietnam, plus money money money…from the Iraqi oil. This is the single reason for staging this war, believe it or not. And believe me……after the end presidency of Bush, as with all presidents of the US, the rot and waste of his presidency will rise and it will be bigger than any could imagine.

By: monelun

monelun — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:13:14 +0000

Hey Jeff,
Ooooh, deprived of prayer rugs, so witty. I’m in dazzled awe of your provincial red neck wit.

How about the suspension of habeas corpus for detainees, some of whom have been held for six years without charge? How about waterboarding, sexual assault, and other forms of torture and intimidation generally frowned upon by the civilized world? How about semi secret meetings of key members of GWB’s cabinet where they decided this crap was decided to be put into action?
The deliberate cultivation of a fear driven mentality by this administration is a slap in the face to every life lost on 9-11. They used this horrible event to create a ‘war’ that will not end, with an enemy who has no fixed geographic location, in order to parlay that fear into votes to prop up a morally bankrupt regime.
Because if it were really about the evil deeds committed in the name of Islam, the psychotic misogynism, and the intolerant racism, I’m thinking there were more apt targets than what was the most secular muslim country in the middle east. Given our behavior, it seems as though our wonderful president doesn’t really have a problem with any of those things.
Remember, kids, it’s not fascism when WE do it!

By: Locke

Locke — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:40:58 +0000

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm

By: Locke

Locke — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:40:38 +0000

Jeff Sulman- Well… Let’s see…

Article2-In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.( Please feel free to correct me, but we are not at war with Iran and we are occupying Iraq. Also, Iraq is not part of the convention, but we are, so we shouldn’t be torturing the prisoners at Guantanamo.And yes, water boarding, or simulated drowning, does count as torture. “But it doesn’t kill you”… Well, let me ask you something… Would you want to be subject to water boarding?)

Article 3- 1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.( Why are we treating Muslim prisoners worse than other prisoners?)

These are some of the many ways Guantanamo violates the Geneva Convention. If you would like to read the Geneva Convention, I’ve got the URL right here.

Locke

By: rlitzen

rlitzen — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:14:03 +0000

Mr. Bush would have been remembered as the FDR of his time had he attacked the enemy clearly revealed after 911- Saudi Arabia. His decision to be influenced by the greed of Halleburton and his own family’s interest resulted in America’a policy being dictated by and for our attackers for the first time in our history.
The generations of WWI and WWII took pride in our country in deciding to fight the enemy Germany and its allies, eventhough many Americans including BUsh’s grandfather were making millions financing the Nazis. Our country sustained intergrity and respect until Carter destroyed it by showing weakness in not protecting Americans in Iran.
At least we knew the enemy, we simply ran away under Carter.
Under Bush, the enemy who educated and trained the Saudi soldiers to attack on 9-11 was the Saudi Royal family. This Kingdom was allowed to actually dictate to our President and armed forces who the US should attack-Afghanistan Taliban who are not Saudis as is Bin Laden, who is protected by the Saudis who keeps getting away (yeah,right)and the long time enemies of Saudi Arabi- Iraq and Iran.
What kind of spin would have been necessary for FDR to attack China (Japan’s nemesis) after Pearl Harbor? or to teach Nazi culture in US schools where children would learn the Nazi salute as our kids are now learning to kneel and pray five times to Mecca?
FDR was like Reagan and Theodore Roosevelt, simply trying to protect American interests in the face of our enemies who sought our destruction. They did not consider whether or not their family could make a quick buck in the process.
At least Carter recognized the enemy. He did not use his presidency to convince Americans Iran’s religion or culture was better in order to make a few million as we have done since 911.
Under W and Pelosi, America has showed the rest of the world a side of leadership never before seen and hopefully wil never see again- a mere proxy regime to the highest bidder.
Neither McCain or Obama have such cowardice.

By: Jeff Sulman

Jeff Sulman — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:32:58 +0000

What rules of the Geneva Convention convention does Guantanamo Bay break? Should they get two prayer rugs? Two Korans? Is there not Tidy-Bowl in their toilets? Should we be giving them four squares a day and provide health care for their families back home?

Also regarding Abu-Ghraib – were not those who committed the “atrocities” put in jail? No president can prevent all bad things from happening, but he can insure those who did them are properly prosecuted. Bush has done that.

You may not like the war but its stupidity far beyond that of Bush that will prevent a person from acknowledging the victory we are achieving there and the good its done for the Iraqi people. Only spoiled pampered bratty Americans who have never lived under true oppression would deny this.

Typical liberal broken record rantings.

By: srlucado

srlucado — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:11:42 +0000

T.S.Ahmed: You remind me of an old girlfriend of mine, who once said I was the most screwed-up person she’d ever met. I answered, “If I’m the most screwed-up person you’ve ever met, you haven’t met nearly enough people!”

Similarly, if you think Bush is the “worst” president, you are pretty ignorant of American history–or current events, for that matter.

Roger:

Bush has done a good job during a terrible time. Not every president could do half as well.

Could Bush have done better? Surely. For one thing, he could have done a much better job of reminding us who we’re fighting and why we’re fighting them. Let’s not forget, even during WWII–the most clear example of good vs. evil in recent history–there were vast propaganda campaigns to remind people of the urgency of the war. We have nothing similar today, so that the weeds of anti-Americanism are allowed to flourish unopposed.

Scott

By: Terry Quinn

Terry Quinn — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:19:03 +0000

I’d like to agree with Roger, but a massive leftist government for 4 years (& yes, the agenda IS clear,)with it’s inherent tendency to authoritarianism, is not likely to hold historical accuracy in high repute. The winners write the history books. Those books will say anything necessary to make the Left look good.

By: T.S.Ahmed

T.S.Ahmed — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:04:23 +0000

My goodness!!! Does Abu-Ghraib or Guantanamo stand as anythiong for you? does it mean anything to you??? Well, at the least for the writer of these words, it means your Bushy-Brained president is so overratingly…….underrated!!!! only in terms of IQ is this president underrrated. Without doubt, the worst president in the history of the U.S. and time will tell, let alone the political criticism of his term, in forms of more than dozens of books and articles related to the subject. And still, Osama laughs endlessly at your heading!!!!!!