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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now is the time for conservatives to ask for commitments from McCain.  As the summer goes along, he will be tacking towards the left, and conservatives will be forgotten.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is the time for conservatives to ask for commitments from McCain.  As the summer goes along, he will be tacking towards the left, and conservatives will be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Filthy McNasty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Filthy McNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goodness gracious--every conservative who does not want to vote for McCain KNOWS that Hillary would be worse.  That&#039;s not the point.

The point is that Republicans win the White House most of the time, but not all of the time.  With that in mind, pick your losses.

Best to let the Dems have a go with a candidate who&#039;ll have the nation pulling their hair out within the first six months and who has little hope of a second term.  Hillary is that gal.  Imagine what would have happened if Michael Dukakis won in 1988.  He would not have won a second term, and we would have likely had eights years of a Republican in the White House instead of Bill Clinton.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goodness gracious&#8211;every conservative who does not want to vote for McCain KNOWS that Hillary would be worse.  That&#8217;s not the point.</p>
<p>The point is that Republicans win the White House most of the time, but not all of the time.  With that in mind, pick your losses.</p>
<p>Best to let the Dems have a go with a candidate who&#8217;ll have the nation pulling their hair out within the first six months and who has little hope of a second term.  Hillary is that gal.  Imagine what would have happened if Michael Dukakis won in 1988.  He would not have won a second term, and we would have likely had eights years of a Republican in the White House instead of Bill Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Whalen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Whalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zhombre, I recognize your screen name from NewsBusters, my other favorite website.

Regarding the “Peter Pan Principle” implicit in Mr. Kimball’s evaluation, I am willing to admit that he may have hit a sore spot, and in so far as I must concede that my recent enthusiasm of conservative ideals has been set back to some extent. I will present my case in typical knuckle dragging hayseed, fashion; short on analysis, and long on the side of gut wrenching fear.

I do not wish to seem obsequious nor be accused of faked praise by confessing to an inferior education. In fact Mr. Kimball has saved my artistic soul, thank you very, very, much. And I will continue to purchase his books.

Zhombre, Re: your posts, they are intellectually edifying, as well as being clearly stated and erudite.

Granting all that, (silent scream), I originally supported John McCain in the 2000 Presidential campaign, my reservations orbit around the gradual erosion of an assault on American culture.

Example: The open borders policy advocated by President Bush and Senator McCain, a policy in my opinion which would in effect force a sort of shotgun wedding between two incompatible cultural sensibilities; namely the knuckle dragging maize pounding southern cornhuskers of south America and knuckle dragging northern corn-husking Anglo American, here in the reddest of red states, nativist Nebraska. ;-)

Seriously, I live about 140 miles (as the crow fly’s), from the geographical center of the United States of America. But when I use my local drive-thru-ATM, I’m asked to choose either English or Spanish, even though the demographic make-up of our little hamlet consists of the following proportions:

98.26% of people are white, [Probably Germanic, Italian and some sort of Celtic mix], 0.11% are black, 0.34% are Asian, 0.13% are native American, and 1.49% claim &#039;Other&#039;.        98.01% are non-Hispanic)!

Although, the following may have the ring of protesting too much. I really, really do like Mexican people. In fact I like Americans of Mexican decent even more than Mexicans. Moreover, I would someday like to see actual Mexicans living in Mexico, when luck have it, I win the lotto, and Mexico is where I hope to vacation, So call me a friggen romantic already!

The aborted Kennedy/McCain amnesty legislation or similar proposals will only create an underclass of “bastard” Americans who are neither patriots of Mexico nor American patriots but only nomads whose future offspring will be suspect for decades to come.

This does not even touch upon the significant prospect of actual enemies taking advantage of an open borders and amassing sleeper cells. I will confine my concerns towards the full and silent tide of future strife.

I prefer that these good people figuratively, knock first. So that we may welcome them through the front door as we would welcome newly wed in-laws accepted as family members rather than consign them to the inevitable status of dingy vagrants living under our porch.

If Senator McCain shows me a plan to perform this miracle I will gladly vote for him.

As for the war against Islamofacist, fair trade, small government, all of these subject are more encouraging. I guess, who knows?







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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zhombre, I recognize your screen name from NewsBusters, my other favorite website.</p>
<p>Regarding the “Peter Pan Principle” implicit in Mr. Kimball’s evaluation, I am willing to admit that he may have hit a sore spot, and in so far as I must concede that my recent enthusiasm of conservative ideals has been set back to some extent. I will present my case in typical knuckle dragging hayseed, fashion; short on analysis, and long on the side of gut wrenching fear.</p>
<p>I do not wish to seem obsequious nor be accused of faked praise by confessing to an inferior education. In fact Mr. Kimball has saved my artistic soul, thank you very, very, much. And I will continue to purchase his books.</p>
<p>Zhombre, Re: your posts, they are intellectually edifying, as well as being clearly stated and erudite.</p>
<p>Granting all that, (silent scream), I originally supported John McCain in the 2000 Presidential campaign, my reservations orbit around the gradual erosion of an assault on American culture.</p>
<p>Example: The open borders policy advocated by President Bush and Senator McCain, a policy in my opinion which would in effect force a sort of shotgun wedding between two incompatible cultural sensibilities; namely the knuckle dragging maize pounding southern cornhuskers of south America and knuckle dragging northern corn-husking Anglo American, here in the reddest of red states, nativist Nebraska. <img src='http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, I live about 140 miles (as the crow fly’s), from the geographical center of the United States of America. But when I use my local drive-thru-ATM, I’m asked to choose either English or Spanish, even though the demographic make-up of our little hamlet consists of the following proportions:</p>
<p>98.26% of people are white, [Probably Germanic, Italian and some sort of Celtic mix], 0.11% are black, 0.34% are Asian, 0.13% are native American, and 1.49% claim &#8216;Other&#8217;.        98.01% are non-Hispanic)!</p>
<p>Although, the following may have the ring of protesting too much. I really, really do like Mexican people. In fact I like Americans of Mexican decent even more than Mexicans. Moreover, I would someday like to see actual Mexicans living in Mexico, when luck have it, I win the lotto, and Mexico is where I hope to vacation, So call me a friggen romantic already!</p>
<p>The aborted Kennedy/McCain amnesty legislation or similar proposals will only create an underclass of “bastard” Americans who are neither patriots of Mexico nor American patriots but only nomads whose future offspring will be suspect for decades to come.</p>
<p>This does not even touch upon the significant prospect of actual enemies taking advantage of an open borders and amassing sleeper cells. I will confine my concerns towards the full and silent tide of future strife.</p>
<p>I prefer that these good people figuratively, knock first. So that we may welcome them through the front door as we would welcome newly wed in-laws accepted as family members rather than consign them to the inevitable status of dingy vagrants living under our porch.</p>
<p>If Senator McCain shows me a plan to perform this miracle I will gladly vote for him.</p>
<p>As for the war against Islamofacist, fair trade, small government, all of these subject are more encouraging. I guess, who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Zhombre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With McCain you are really rolling the dice.&quot;  So let&#039;s roll &#039;em.  With the Clintons you know you get grifters and with Obama you aren&#039;t rolling the dice but expecting a miracle.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With McCain you are really rolling the dice.&#8221;  So let&#8217;s roll &#8216;em.  With the Clintons you know you get grifters and with Obama you aren&#8217;t rolling the dice but expecting a miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m just a Peter Pan Republican.
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		<title>By: mal</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>mal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=10980#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=10980#comments&lt;/a&gt;

Roger Kimball to Conservatives: Grow Up! [Dan Collins] - UPDATED, WITH A RESPONSE TO MR KIMBALL FROM PROTEIN WISDOM THE ELDER
Mr. Adult Guy:


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<p>Roger Kimball to Conservatives: Grow Up! [Dan Collins] &#8211; UPDATED, WITH A RESPONSE TO MR KIMBALL FROM PROTEIN WISDOM THE ELDER<br />
Mr. Adult Guy:</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2008/02/04/conservatives_show_grow_up_abo/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that it is you, sir, who doesn&#039;t understand:  voting for McCain is no alternative to Hillary or Obama...they&#039;re all the SAME!!!!!!

Better a witch I know or a boob without experience then this weasel, McCain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that it is you, sir, who doesn&#8217;t understand:  voting for McCain is no alternative to Hillary or Obama&#8230;they&#8217;re all the SAME!!!!!!</p>
<p>Better a witch I know or a boob without experience then this weasel, McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Beloit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Beloit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irony, example: Bob Dole injecting himself into a primary which could be called Bob Dole Redux.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irony, example: Bob Dole injecting himself into a primary which could be called Bob Dole Redux.</p>
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		<title>By: rcocean</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcocean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets all unite behind McCain-

-The jobs aren&#039;t coming back;
-The illegals are never going home; and
-more wars!

That platform and Bob Dole&#039;s endorsement make him unstoppable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets all unite behind McCain-</p>
<p>-The jobs aren&#8217;t coming back;<br />
-The illegals are never going home; and<br />
-more wars!</p>
<p>That platform and Bob Dole&#8217;s endorsement make him unstoppable.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Whalen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Whalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I would vote for Uriah Heep before McCain, only because at least I&#039;d have some idea what I would be getting. With McCain you are really rolling the dice.

RDW
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would vote for Uriah Heep before McCain, only because at least I&#8217;d have some idea what I would be getting. With McCain you are really rolling the dice.</p>
<p>RDW</p>
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