27. jWarrior:
#12 F47 is right. Islam does need a Reformation.

I think many of us are forgetting a precursor to Reformation.
That is the freedom or power to discuss and admit that “holy” scriptures are not the direct word of an almighty god but of so-called prophets such as Mohammed or apostles such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and assorted hangers on/groupies.

How can Islam have any potential for reform while the Koran is considered the direct word of god and any challenge to that notion is heresy with a penalty of death?

That is inherently unreasonable. There is no starting place especially when you consider our notion that democracy is based on the premise of the reasonable man.

How do Muslims get there from where they are now???

And what are we as a civilization doing to support what “progressives” (pardon me) there are in Islamic societies?