Whiskey:
Cedarford ignores that Putin is aiming to kill a lot of Americans through proxy nuclear attacks on the US continental soil by Iran. That’s why Russia is helping Iran nuke up.

Riiiight! The “Secret Nuclear War Plot” Iran and Russia are working on to blow up America and leave Our Special Friend Israel – helpless! Helpless!
About on the same level of credibility as saying Putin has a plot to flouridate America’s water with Iranian water treatment engineers and thus “destroy our precious bodily fluids”.
Russia is building two light water reactors after America refused to. They don’t make plutonium suitable for bombs, and the IAEA will monitor fuel burnup and the fuel assemblies storage. America once wanted to build 38 reactors in Iran, and most of their nuclear engineers in Iran, in exile in Europe and at US nuke facilities – were trained in American universities.

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Lifeofthemind:
The putative status of these 30,000 or so South Ossetians that Russia is threatening WW-V for.. appears as fraudulent…

God spare us Neocon nutbaggers and the dwindling pack of fans still licking their balls. Who are obligated to use their deranged Podhoretz terminology that WWIII actually happened, WWIV is ongoing though under 10,000 infidels have been killed in it since 9/11 in that “terrible global war”. Now we are up to WWV??? Over a Border War?

Next up, the Neocon manipulators will be saying the the 19th Century’s wars for colonian Empire were actually WW0, and the wars of decolonialization after WWII were actually WWII and a I/II.

Coisty – Spengler at his forum: What irks me the most is that the decisive mis-step by the West — the independence of Kosovo — was done to establish a “partnership with the Muslim world,” as Sen. Biden wrote at the time. In pursuit of an illusion, the West sacrificed what might have been a partnership with Russia.

Spengler is, presumably, a Jewish American. He seems to be one of the few non-Europeans to understand the importance of Kosovo/Serbia.

It is possible, but not likely Spengler is Jewish, as he is a harsh critic of Zionism and manipulation of America to back Zionist goals.

But he was right, tilting with the Muslim invaders of the Serbian Homeland and awarding them a chuck of it, in the war and in negating drawn Borders to recognize Kosovo as ripped away from Serbia – infuriated Russia, making payback against the West and juggling of other borders inevitable.
Many in Europe recognized this, Americans, drunk on the Neocon’s assertion that we were the unchallenged Hegemon of the planet out to do endless wars to bring “freedom!!” – did not.
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Lifeofthemind – There is no natural or legitimate reason for Russian forces to be permitted south of 44° N.

And your reason for claiming the American forces, on the other hand – have natural, legitimate reasons to be “permitted” by other nations to be north, south, east and west of it’s natural boundaries all over the planet – is…..what??