TCobb wrote:

“The curse of the modern world is utopianism. Many people find the idea to be incredibly attractive, and it is, much like the idea of winning the million dollar lottery, and it is just as realistic, at least as history seems to show.”

I’ve often thought that a good line for a bumper sticker might be:

“Guns don’t kill people, utopias do”.

As far as the rest of the thread goes, I think that our situation can be summed up by saying that the hopes of the Founding Fathers that the implied threat to the tyrant present in the Second Amendment would be sufficient to prevent catastrophe will likely be tested in the next five to ten years.

The overschooled but undereducated and underintelligent NPR left that currently hold sway over the U.S. can call a notion like that “insurrectionism” all they want, but the truth of it is evident. The people of gun could be a force. Whether this threat is perceived as real by TWANLOC or not will be the hinge point of history.

Whiskey and Mongoose and others have seen the truth of this. We aren’t a different species because we have the internet or cell phones or nuclear weapons or jet airplanes. Year zero has not occured. Historical evils and responses to the same can still happen.