–it’s just so strange that now here we are, with humankind in technological flood –innovating and inventing, and tho there’s more of us than ever, we also have more of everything –longer lives, better food, cleaner cities, less disease –why would a doomer want to kill off a share of the human race (in order to save it from dying off, note!) on the grounds that the history of mankind developing greater efficiency and process with ever smaller shares of resources devoted to the basic necessities of life –is going to suddenly slam on the brakes?

What on earth gives them the idea? yes peak oil is scary but natgas is gonna save us for a few hundred years and by then we’ll have better answers for the next cycle. I mean, that’s the way to bet, bades on history –and the alt is to draw in now, and force the population down –that’s not going to fundamentally alter us spiritually? –before we are even sure that people won’t ALWAYS innovate and drive prosperity? Considering the ”cure” many would MUCH prefer the illness! Nobody gets out alive anyway, and maybe while we’re here we don’t want to participate in breeding and farming –and culling –other human beings.

Holdren and partner Ehrlich wanted sterilants surreptitiously added to water sources, forced abortions, and all sorts of ghoulish totalitarian catastrophes, implemented IMMEDIATELY or it would be TOO LATE to save us from overpopulation-induced extinction. They made these demands in 1969.