On the Frame thread @124 LotM made the following observation
“In Islam everything there is to know was comprehended by a human being and was set down as understood by him or was demonstrated by his example. Nothing more is to be learned and nothing can be changed. Full Stop. In Judaism, and Christianity and every other faith system that I know of, God is by definition beyond the comprehension of the bounded human system.”
That’s an important insight. Taking that thought a step further and considering also that Islam is not merely a set of beliefs about God but a social, economic and legal ideology that transcends nationality I think at some point we are going to have to stop giving First Amendment cover to Islam as a religion per se. Someone proposed a constitutional amendment to that effect awhile back. Muslims can still believe that God spoke to Mohammed, just as Mormons can believe the angels spoke to Joseph Smith. But it would make the obligations of citizenship and military service crystal clear in ways that the average Muslim doesn’t seem prepared to understand, which is enabled by PC ideology and frankly confused by our own long tradition of religious freedom.
I also agree with Alexis that Hasan should be charged with treason. Not several dozen hairsplitting degrees of assault, or even murder. Treason it is.








