@j-rog: –thanks for correcting my post –i’m glad i had added that “don’t quote me” –misplacing Alexander on the wrong side of the Pelop. War is something i could’ve done somewhere besides in plain view, but noooo, not me!

Important thing, tho, is with very few mental gymnastics, the Pelop. War analogy can be fitted either way. For example, the largest frame of all would be, which political system won? This of course is meaningless without the full panoply of stipulation (topography, economy, leadership, and so forth) –unless one can locate specific instances where the national effort was especially helped or hindered by the mechanics of the political system.

Long/short, even the most ancient history suggests a USA at war needs to quit now (1968 would’ve been better and would’ve saved enormous life and treasure, often for both combatants) the automatic political tactic of hyper-subversion of national foreign policy by the “loyal opposition” (why did i have to put that in quotation marks?).