S/115; you ring true i think –there’s the evidence of the peculiar reaction –how tired we grow of it! –when one tries to (for your example of so many) remind a “Bush Lied” person about the hard facts of history. It’s an hysterical deafness; they really can’t hear you. Where is the difference with religious ecstasy? And Dohrn is a brilliant example –that her sneering barking tongue-talk over the still-warm ritually murdered boho fellow travelers is so completly ‘normed’ that she must be as a priestess and the the Manson victims as a chosen tribal blood sacrifice –in the backs (not the fronts!) of the minds of the afflicted.

R/117; –righto that’s what that was alright –the liar’s paradox or Cretan Paradox. i think the riddle is in the mind merge of word with meaning –we do it on auto (otherwise we’d have to translate everything in our heads before we could speak –as we do with second languages unless/until we become truly bilingual). so when we come to a particular arrangement of words (a word is like stonehenge, big letter rocks ) such as the liar’s paradox, we don’t readily see that it’s just the words seeming to make a paradox, the concept itself is impossible to ‘figure out’ because it just doesn’t exist. Like Tuesday can’t be Wednesday even tho you can easily say ‘tuesday is wednesday’.

& re your …searching in D.C. for the Cretan Liar –did you look in the Cretin Lair? it has a big dome, like a limestone ringling brothers tent –you should be able to find it –it sure has no trouble finding you !