The West should have thought of that when they were extending NATO to Russia’s borders and lecturing the Russians on the sacred right of peoples like the Muslim invaders of Serbia’s historical territory to seceed…even backed by Western bombing of Serb cities to force capitulation to the Albanian migrants.
That should have been a consideration when people were all for shoving Kosovo down Russia’s throat. I’m sure that looked like the start of another cold war from their side of things.
Want Russia to reconsider acting like we did with Kosovo and launching anti-Russian political movements in their sphere of interest? Or reconsider acting as the West does in directly fighting or giving aid to countries to fight “self-determination” movements we oppose like in Kashmir, Palestine, Mindinao, Catalonia, Basque lands, Peru’s indigenous areas?
We need our own little break from hypocrisy.
John Samford – Actually, we DO have the military means to push the Russians out. We just don’t have politicians with hte spine to use it.
It is called the U.S. Air Force. Cut the Soviet, er…..Russian supply lines and see how tough they are when the fuel and ammo run out. Once that happens, the Georgians can deal with them.
WW3? Bring it on!
Fucking moron. If Samford wasn’t a long-time poster writing earlier about delerious right wingnut fantasies of “vast stockpiles of hidden Iraqi WMD”, I’d consider him a Russian or Lefty plant set up to discredit American conservatives as utterly brainless about Central Asia geostrategy and Russian military capacity.
Samford – Putin has made war inevitable. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as delusional as Chamberlain.
The stupidities of John Samford just keep on coming.
Meanwhile, the markets rise and the price of oil lowers, because people are confident that Russia has aims limited to spanking the West good for it’s Kosovo hypocrisy. And that no Neocons are left in any position of power, and if they were, no way would the reckless saber-wavers ever get NATO basing rights to risk WWIII over Ossetia and Abkhazia again becoming an autonomous Oblast under Russia.
Which the people support, as Russia will no doubt establish with an internationally monitored plebiscite.
LifeoftheMind – We can fly from Mosul, dare the Turks to stop us. Hate seeing an elected government fall to a military coup but the Turks are getting close. Worst case for the Turks, which I do not expect or even desire, is the Kurds get a state, the Greeks get Cyprus and the Ukrainians get Constantinople.
Great, another poster of the remnant Neocon Empire-Builder class adding Turkey onto the long list of countries that they favor the US fighting endless wars to boost Israel or “freedom-loving”.
The List so far?
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, attacking Hamas in Gaza to help our “special friend”. “Quick, easy” war against Iran. War in Afghanistan until “the Muslims shed the burquas and love Israel.” War to liberate the “freedom-loving Burmese people”. A quick surprise war with both Pakistan and N Korea to “surgically defang them with our mighty American war toys”.
Warnings we may have to “take out” Venezuela.
Add Russia, to the 11 other wars Neocon fans are touting.
Then there is the matter of attacking China to “give them freedom” and liberate the poor oppressed minorities.
On top of those 13 pending wars, Neos also support “noble intervention” wars for humanitarian reasons. Like with Sudan, Congo, Somalia, whatever other African shithole is presently erupting.
Endless war. But of course Neocons oppose the Draft and taxes needed to back up their extensive war list. Tax us? Put children of neocons at risk with a Draft? No way!
CJM – if we get into a conventional war with the russians, their army is gone in two weeks. if they launch icbm’s their country is gone in two hours.
Rattle, rattle that toy saber… boy!
CJM – in comparison to our capabilities, russia’s armed forces have bones in their noses and spears in their hands.
Clearly you were never in the military in a position where you had to plan against demonstrated Soviet/Russian abilities, or in a civilian capacity to assess their high tech components operated by professional and volunteer forces, vs. their conscript elements.
If you had to game against Sunburn missiles, the S-300P or S-400 antiair systems, the MIG-29 or Sukhoi 30, soon the F-22 answer Sukhoi is building – you would know that their stuff is quite good, quite lethal.
Only a fool would equate Russian AF, cyberwar, space, Naval, spec ops, armor&artillery assets and capacities to “bones in noses” inferiority to US people or weapons tech.
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OT, Konyok – In the US, there is a national agreement to store nuclear waste in a location in the state of Nevada. The governor of Nevada obeys the will of his people who do not want nuclear waste in their state. President Bush cannot order the governor to do anything, his boss is the people of Nevada.
You overlook that Yucca Mountain is on Federal land outside the Nevada legislature or governor’s or state court authority.
The only “say” they get is about the safety of shipments crossing the state outide Fed land – but even there, the interstate commerce clause has tended to beat the asses of those states or individuals that meddle in, or seek to block Federal Interstate Highway, Army Corps navigable water ways, or rail lines – very, very hard – including criminal sentences that caused significant jailtime…
