Amit Green @ various:
I am going to address this in stages, you are correct about some things but wrong overall because you miss the real points.
One of the things that is totally obvious, is that citizens on both the left & the right truly love America … and both sides want what is best for America … though they have different visions.
Yes, both flavors of CITIZENS are just that. People are generally good. But there is that other percentage of evil basterds. It is the ones who control the real reins of power who are not.
However, its almost impossible to get the two sides to talk to each other sensibly; and come to agreement on a common vision.
Individuals can get together and make compromises. That happens all the time in city councils, school boards, etc. What you miss is the transition to the national stage is a whole other ball game. The entrance ticket is MONEY. Big money. Lots of money. Corrupting levels of money. That fact makes the two different.
Just as Republicans have let down the conservatives … and are in many ways destructive to the conservative cause … so the Democrats have let down the liberals … and are in many ways destructive to the liberal cause.
True if you consider individuals. When it gets to national stage philosophies then it becomes different. At that level, they are all the same. Why? See above. Money, money, money. Because of that the two sides then become just part of the same machine. They then become indistinguishable. They then have to espouse ideas and outlooks that inimical and counter to any better natures of individuals. The political machines then become part of the same fabric. And that fabric is corrupt to the very core. Mark Levin calls them Statists. At this level there is not one iota of difference between the Democrat or the Republican. Just the speed at which they wish to implement bigger and bigger government.
The problem, I agree, is the politicians on both sides. Certainly we need to oppose the politicians (on both sides) and “The FIGHT is what it.s all about, and it.s a very, very good thing.” The politicians, on both sides, are destroying the fabric of this country, and this needs to be opposed.
You miss something here. If the world was functioning as normal then it is not a fight but a process, a polity. But it is not a world functioning as normal. The Statists have gone “All-In” now they have control and a willing majority. They have not had this for a long, long time where the radical arm of any party has the majority. The radicals have arrived and they are doing their best to ruin the Republic.
As many here have said, it is long past the time when we can hope to avoid drastic actions to save what we have. Also, the economic ruination is not done. The recent suckers rally in the NYSE is just that. Look for the third leg of the crash – the one that will allow Cloward-Piven to operate. It is coming soon, I believe.
Das @ 69:
… so we must look to the odd interstices of Obama’s public persona to try to understand the man. He is very much a construction of some sort; … You catch glimpses of the ‘real’ man in these down moments you describe. … to watch Obama is to watch a very complex phenomena…
I disagree. The Won is just as he said he was in his autobio. Radical who hangs with radicals. The real question is: “Who sent him?” There is a picture of his eyes in an unguarded moment when he is vexed last year on the campaign trail. Those eyes show the real man. One who is angry and full of spite. One quietly at peace with the dark creatures he knows live in his soul. I believe he is simple. Very easy to understand.
luddy @ 80: Just so, it really did happen that way. Like DAS said, we are not all as smart as you happen to be. There may be other factors that contributed, like Soros funds making a run on the central banking structure through shadow players.
Salt Lick @ 83:
They are latching onto the anger and energy of tea parties and town halls — big time. They are making the cause their own, mouthing our slogans. Never mind that, like the French in the American Revolution, they will need to be watched at the end of the war. They are slowly coming around to adding their not inconsiderable money and mailing lists and energy to the fight. Because they see an opportunity.
Are you sure they are not just hedging bets? Vying to be eaten last by whoever happens to come out on top? Like Subotai, I think this whole bit of history has slipped out of their grasp. Remember that the GoP apparatchiks are part and parcel of the responsibility for the mess we find ourselves in. They helped make this what it is.
JJRedfan @ 114:
The tone of comment in this blog is becoming pretty darned scarifyin. Wouldn’t be surprised if snoops are not already taking names and snitching.
So what? I have been on one list or another since 1968 or so. Being on one of The 0bamanation’s list don’t scare me none. Yup, I are one of THOSE guys or at least used to be. Hell, Mark Rudd lives down the road from me.
Does anyone know anything about OathKeepers.org? Their website has a list of ten mighty ambitious “We Won’t’s” — definite Line-in-the-sand sorta stuff.
Surely do. They have the right idea. My oath I still consider operative.
Promethea @ 120:
I’m glad so many posters on this thread think that Americans are starting to be concerned about Obama and the political future of the United States.
He scared the crap out of me the first time I saw his visage on the idiot box.
I am very concerned. I believe Obama is a front man for socialist/fascist types who hate the United States and want to destroy this country.
He is not the front man, he is one of the architects, or so he thinks. These guys have been around for along time and plotting the demise of the Republic. (Note to someone above, it is NOT a democracy, it is a republic.)
As for local politics:
Billy “Roadrunner” Richardson just got pardoned by the DoJ today. Okay, it wasn’t a pardon, they have just decided not to prosecute. He is crooked as dog’s hind leg. Thank G-d that he is soon out of office due to term limits. I met him when he was starting out and he barely escaped getting his butt kicked that day. I was clerk at a small store he came to trade in and he treated me like dirt. I needed the job and have hated the man to this day.
Sen. Jeff “I was born to be a US Senator” Bingaman has come out and declared that he is in favor of using reconciliation to pass ObamaCare or as it should be named, ChappaquiddiCare. (At age 65 you get a clinker Buick or Olds of your choice, a bottle of Chivas and a map of the Chappaquiddick area.) That guy is a tool and somehow in this Bluest of states we need to replace him.
