I heard Mark on the radio and he was saying “…and all this cross talk about ‘death panels’– its panels themselves that are the start of the problem”.

This cannot be acceptable for many innumerable reasons, but the fundamental reason that invalidates all of the ones used to argue for national socialised health care is that it destroys doctor/patient confidentiality, i.e. privacy, the argument so preciously and selectively prized by the left when used as the ruse where the defending of [an] abortion as a “right” is concerned.

I hope the Supreme court is poised to strike this down on that fundamental basis, an authentic privacy issue, where precedent is concerned, if congress continues the way they are trying to. And if not, we’ve got the equivalent of a Dred Scott decision on our hands.

If you don’t see it, look at Roe v Wade: that “random tissue” growing inside a ladies’ tummy is “private” property”; none of our business what she does with it (“privacy”), just as in Dred Scott, when his right to be a free man was declared invalid (by S ct.) based on the fact that they ruled he was [someone's] private property. a Bad Ruling, but there you are, there were free[d] men and women for the course of our history (living in the North, of course) and Scott filed his case in Minnesota, so the court could have ruled in his favor and maybe not set the clock ticking for deadly civil war, ahhhhh don’t get me started….

democrat party really miscalculated when they punted on SCRAP and TAX, and switched to health scare/death care; the ground was much more fertile for the class warfare card/canard tactic to be played with that one (“so, you don’t want clean air? you think oil companies should be free to just …”), pitting us against each other, to obscure the real issue- shutting down small business, and sending those who can afford to elsewhere, but that campaign will probably be put off till next year, and when that happens, the same people showing up at town halls will be prepared, and ready and waiting for them. Take that usurpers.

there may well be 100 potential democrat votes against what their party is trying to do, but so far failing to do: single payer (the taxpayer paying via da gummit), the “public(?)” “option”- (no options at all).

Something has come between the big monied lobbyists and the ear of the congress persons voting habits, I guess we could euphemise it as some seismic activity, but in previous entanglements it was- Principles vs Lobbyists=Lobbyists win most every time. Many members of both parties have been corrupted by this, but it took tea parties and town halls, to focus light on what lobbying entities these members have ceded their seat to, even Ron Paul, despite what he’d have you believe.