“Can you not admit that there is a society wide problem with women having no civilizational governor on their primate Darwinist influences and behavior? Is this not a subject worthy of discussion?”

“both about the return to lower primate mating models in the absence of societal and religious social norming governors on single women”

You’re saying that in order to control the male drive to procreate with every female- in other words limit his Darwinist influences and behavior- we have to place limits on the behavior or choices of women- ie. with modesty, and chastity. Marriage and fidelity are traditional governors placed on both sexes.

(I’m not sure how to limit the Darwinistic desire for women to mate with alpha males, unless we force them into arranged marriages.)

Women’s behavior is thus pivotal to the level of civility in a society. And how women are treated is a measure of the level of civilization in a society.

A balance needs to be reached in terms of how much limits we place on ourselves, and women in particular. If the balance swings too far in ether direction society suffers- Sodom & Gomorrah vs. the burqa.

Both comments make me think. Good points.