Good points.

But note that the Russian people are traumatized like we were on 9-11. They cannot believe so many Russian civilians were killed for the first time in a war since the Great Patriotic War 1941-45.

They are in shock and demand the blood of the Saddam Hussein kind of guy who would have done such a thing.

They may be getting propaganda, but Americans are getting a worse dose in my opinion. The American politicians and ambassadors are blatantly lying by being totally one-sided.

The French and Germans are being smart and honest: they recognize how Americans would feel if they were TOLD that 1400 of them were just killed (the media in Russia has upped that to 2000 since).

If there were 1400 corpses in a bombed out city that had not been evacuated because of the element of surprise, the odds are that they were mostly local civilians.

Also you can say that these civilians should have been warned by anyone who had an idea that the attack was about to happen Thursday night.

There were a lot of Georgian force corpses in South Ossetia and the Russian media has suggested that several dead black men were possibly Americans. Several dead members of a Georgian death squad were Ukrainian.

Also, word is that some surrounded Georgian forces in South Ossetia were executed after capture…which is why sporadic fighting still continues (the Georgians there do not want to surrender and will be hiding in the forests for awhile).

I am still in shock that someone strengthened Saakvashili to boldly tostick his middle finger up to the Russians just now with his throwing away the 16 year agreement on the territories and declaring them occupied territory.

That means prolonged war is DESIRED by this man…who, whether he was legitimately elected using US money for his campaign or not, is clearly taking his orders from the White House.

I would have thought that Bush would have advised him on how to end this right away with the non-use of force pledge that Sarkozy was getting Medvedev to sign today.

But many say that Bush wants this war to continue until the 3 carrier groups are in place to start the Iran War later this month.