When I try to evaluate what is torture, I aways go back to SF and SERE training. Yes, those experiencing the training, from my understanding could include everything outlined in the memos, knew that they were not going to be intentionally killed and the terrorist didn’t have that understanding; so, what! The constitution and our legal system do not constitute a suicide pact. Just as justifiable homicide charges can be subjective, so can the use of torture. If it were me, I would force in some manner Pelosi and Rockefeller to testify or publicly explain why they felt it was just fine to perform what was done when they were briefed on the rules and techniques being used. While their legislative constitutional protections may prevent them from being prosecuted, they do not prevent them from explaining their actions. That would be interesting to hear.