buddy larsen:
osram, if you’re confused by the claims and counterclaims, just note whose army is inside whose nation, and whose people are being killed on foreign soil, and whose people are being killed on their own soil.

That ought to clear things up for you.

A simplistic and deceiving claim. The US has never showed reticence in invading or threatening to invade the “soil” of a foreign country if our citizens have been killed there or are at risk. See our interventions in the Barbary States, against Indian nations, Grenada, Panama for examples. Or Pershings punitive expedition into Mexico after US nationals were killed inside Mexico and in a AZ border town.

Nor were S Ossetia or Abkhazia ever in agreement they were part of Georgia after the money and lobbying to create the Commonwealth of Independent States borders left them as part of Georgia. Abkhazia regards itself as independent of Georgia and did not take part in the elections, whilst South Ossetia favours union with its northern counterpart in Russia.

Britain famously invaded and trashed a few lands for the sake of the insult and harm done to a single subject of the British Empire.

The Russians are no different than Reagan and his invading Grenada to protect 700 US medical students – after Georgia violated the peace brokered in S Ossetia and killed almost 1,000 Russian passport holders – Russia is doing what other nations do.

The mentally and emotionally stunted, like Kabul, may say we need WWIII to start with US forces going in and killing Russian soldiers. Kabul, pathetic as he is, wishes any that oppose his views should get cancer.

More rational minds are focused on not challenging Russia militarily, but in diplomacy to stop Russia from using Saakashvili’s great blunder as pretext for erasing sovereign Georgia. At worse, the Israelis and the neocons lose their puppet leader as part of the bargain. NATO and EU membership, after Georgia’s aggression, now appear out of the question.