this is an awsome thread. Thrasymachus your inside football addition on the communists brought forward my thoughts on colaborators for the islamists in the west running cover for them with multi culti laws making it impossible to criticize thier behavior or anything else, and holding rallies decrying israels self defense, and hamstringing our abilty to gather intel on the islamists and kill them so how does the west survive the unholy alliance between the socialists/commies and liberals who have taken up common cause with the islamists who are the shock troops doing the dirty work on the ground?