There are five stages in man’s political ascent – 1) family; 2) clan; 3) tribe; 4) city state; and 5) nation state. Now Spengler wishes to add a sixth, Civilizatons. There was a Greek Civilization while they were still at #4. There is a Western Civilization now composed entirely of nation states, who are likely to remain nation states, even when subsumed into the larger sense of a Western Civilization. Spengler is often right, but this time he is wrong.