The foregoing discussion about the reliability of climate modeling should inculcate some needed humility about any claims for the models for man made global warming. I’ve read dozens of these kinds of discussions elsewhere, and this one is certainly one of the higher quality discussions, given the fact that most of us are not scientists, just smart people who can think logically and ask the right questions. But, then again we can do this here because we are not in the controlled echo chambers on the other side of the issue. If we were academics, we’d have to meet in secret or exchange e-mails using high encryption software, so as not to get ourselves fired, de-funded, or just plain slandered.

We cannot even predict shifts in ocean currents or when the jet stream is going to shift and to what degree the shift will be. The very idea that we can construct adequate algorithms for computer modeling of the earth’s climate is simply absurd. I just do not believe it can be done.