I believe our western attitudes adversely influence our judgment.

In a tribal or clan society there is no individuality, personal rights, etc. The family owns you and all you do. If you get ahead, the clan shares the wealth. If you screw up the clan ostracizes you (banishment=death or worse).

We need to hold their clans responsible and destroy their seed. Publicly. Visibly. In a way that leaves no doubt.

Brutal? Yes, but that’s the point.

If the jihadis knew that inevitably after martyrdom every single member of his family would be hunted to the end of the earth and killed, maybe their mothers would not encourage them to be a shaheed. In fact, odds are good they’d drown the cursed foolish child the day he expresses such ambitions.

(This would have to be backed up with a will and determination that’s rare these days.)

They have to understand that their deaths will not advance their cause, as it does now, but will blight their tribe for all time.