exhelodrvr,

Good points. So I (and others) are faced with voting for McCain (and by default, the continuance of Republicans, who to use a current phrase, are not the Republicans that I knew), voting for Obama as scorpion (the old frog and scorpion parable), or not voting. I love America (corny stuff, I know) too much not to vote.

Oh well, I said it is complicated.

Thanks guys for the opportunity to vent in an extremely informative environment and in a calm, well reasoned discussion. I have a class to prepare for and can no longer hold up my end of this conversation. For those fellow believers, God Bless. For those who aren’t, Peace be with you, brothers in thought.