“It’s obvious that the people are being dishonest when….

As it was taught to me, the ad hominem attack is a sure sign of a losing argument.

You also seem to misplace that this is a discussion of how to solve the currently very real problem which was identified by Benjamin Franklin, I believe, as the great threat to the existence of the Republic: the possibility of the electorate voting itself increasing benefits from the Treasury to the point of the destruction of the nation. Rather than add to the discussion, you choose to impugn. Too bad. Framed civilly, your point about the military is well-taken. I am not so sure about police in other than patrol billets, though.